In this episode of The Mel Robbins Podcast, organizing experts Clea Shearer and Joanna Teplin from The Home Edit present a practical framework for decluttering and organizing your home. They introduce a four-category decision-making system—need, use, love, and sentimental—that helps you determine what to keep and what to let go. The conversation emphasizes that organization is a form of self-care, not a reflection of personal failure, and that clutter has real mental costs.
Shearer and Teplin share strategies for creating systems that stick, including starting with small spaces, designing around your household's natural flow, and maintaining the 80-20 rule to avoid overstuffed spaces. They discuss how to handle sentimental items, why labels function as household instructions, and the importance of setting low expectations to avoid perfectionism. The episode offers practical advice for transforming your relationship with your possessions and reclaiming mental clarity through simple, sustainable organizing practices.

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Experts Clea Shearer and Joanna Teplin present a straightforward framework for organizing homes based on four categories: need, use, love, and sentimental value. As Shearer explains, every item should fit into one of these buckets—whether it's a necessary toilet plunger, a regularly used toaster, something that brings joy, or holds true sentimental value. Items that don't clearly fit should be considered for removal or donation.
Sentimental items deserve special attention. The framework insists on honoring these possessions by using, displaying, or storing them in a dedicated keepsake box rather than letting them languish forgotten. Shearer and Teplin warn against "should" thinking—keeping things out of guilt or obligation rather than genuine value. To prevent sentimental attachment from overtaking physical space, they recommend setting clear storage limits, whether it's a few bins or a closet, to encourage rational decision-making.
Categorization is foundational before making keep-or-release decisions. By grouping similar items together—like all pens or all keepsakes from one person—individuals gain clarity over what they own, making it easier to part with duplicates and keep only what truly matters.
Mel Robbins, Teplin, and Shearer argue that organization is self-care, not a reflection of personal failure. Teplin stresses that everyone deals with clutter overwhelm regardless of living space, and it's unrelated to intelligence or self-worth. Removing shame is central to this approach—both Teplin and Shearer emphasize "erase your shame" and clarify that beautifully organized social media images should inspire, not shame viewers.
The group points out that clutter has a tangible mental cost, draining clarity and adding stress. Teplin underscores that time spent searching for items often exceeds what it would take to create simple organizational systems. Shearer and Robbins highlight how organization pays back more than it costs, with sustained benefits to focus and daily calm. Moving from passive acceptance of clutter to an active, intentional approach transforms your relationship with possessions, putting you back in control rather than letting clutter dictate your routines.
Shearer and Teplin recommend starting extremely small—"a drawer at a time." Junk drawers are ideal for quick wins because you're not emotionally attached to paperclips. They warn against "landmine spaces" like closets when starting out, since clothes carry emotional triggers about body image and identity. Another key rule: don't take on more than you can finish in a day, as Shearer stresses that unfinished projects lead to exhaustion and demoralization.
For systems to last, they must fit your home's natural rhythms. "Don't fight the tide, create a home where things naturally end up," says Shearer. If shoes gather by the door, add a basket there. Simple, one-step solutions work better than complex schemes—applying the 80-20 rule keeps spaces only 80% full, never stuffed. For pantries, Shearer and Teplin recommend just six basic categories: breakfast, dinner, snacks, baking, cooking, and dessert. Labels aren't just decorative—they're "a set of instructions for the household" that maintain systems.
Maximizing vertical space through hooks, shelves, and wall organizers multiplies storage instantly, especially in small homes. Three-tier rolling carts offer flexible, affordable storage. A core principle: every item needs a designated home so you can always find and return it. "We do not like a free floating item. It should have a home," says Shearer.
Teplin explains that organization is "a muscle" requiring regular practice and maintenance, just like exercise. Organizing isn't a one-time achievement but an ongoing process. Both emphasize that misplaced items and clutter are normal—if something is out of place, you simply recommit and continue rather than abandoning the system.
Shearer and Teplin promote a "low bar lifestyle" where ordinary tasks count as successes. Setting low expectations means any organizing effort—making your bed, organizing a drawer, spending fifteen minutes editing possessions—is worth celebrating. They stress that perfectionism paralyzes progress, while small, manageable efforts remain empowering. The rewards of organization far exceed the minimal ongoing effort required, saving time, reducing anxiety, and providing lasting mental freedom. By keeping your home at "80% full," you give yourself 20% breathing room for mental clarity and adaptability.
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The "Edit" framework provides a simple yet powerful set of criteria to help people make thoughtful decisions about what to keep in their homes. The model rests on four key categories: need, use, love, and sentimental value, empowering individuals to curate belongings that genuinely matter.
Every item in the home should fit into one of four categories: necessary, regularly used, loved for emotional or aesthetic reasons, or holds true sentimental value. As Clea Shearer explains, the rules are straightforward: "You either need it, you use it, you love it, or it's sentimental." Examples include a toilet plunger (need), a toaster or spatula (use), or something that simply brings joy or personal connection (love). Items that do not clearly fit one of these buckets—such as makeup samples saved "just in case"—should be considered for removal, donation, or discarding. If a person realizes they own multiple items (like several bottles of nail polish) but rarely use most of them, it's a sign to pare down and keep only what truly fits.
When a person's belongings are scattered in several places, it's easy to lose track of what they own. The first step in the editing process is to ask, "Does this belong here?" If it does not, it should be removed or relocated. Anything unusable or outside the framework is eligible for the donate or discard pile. Donation can also help alleviate any lingering guilt about parting with unused purchases, as the item might serve someone else's needs better, like teachers or children in need of school supplies.
Sentimental items represent a special category that can become a pitfall for hidden clutter if left unchecked. The framework insists on honoring sentimental possessions by using, displaying, framing, or storing them in a special keepsake box rather than letting them languish on a back shelf. As Clea Shearer says, if a sweater from a beloved grandparent is truly important, it shouldn't be buried but should be integrated into daily life—either through use, visible display, or dedicated storage.
Often, people fall into the trap of "should" thinking: keeping things because they feel obliged, either out of guilt, legacy, or external pressure. Questioning the reason behind keeping an item—whether guilt from a family member or a sense of obligation—helps reveal whether the item is truly valued or simply an unnecessary burden. For example, holding onto broken costume jewelry "just because" or out of a sense of being a bad granddaughter does not align with the framework's intent.
To prevent sentimental value from overtaking physical space, the Edit approach recommends setting a clear limit on sentimental item storage. Whether it's a few bins, a cabinet, a closet, or a larger area, the boundaries prevent emotional attachment from consuming available storage or living areas and encour ...
The "Edit" Framework: Need, Use, Love, Sentimental Decision-Making
Mel Robbins, Joanna Teplin, and Clea Shearer argue that organization and decluttering are acts of self-care, not reflections of personal failure. Instead of judging clutter as a character flaw, they emphasize releasing shame and reframing organization as an investment in mental and physical wellbeing.
Teplin stresses that everyone, regardless of whether they live in a studio apartment or a big house, deals with the overwhelm and frustration of clutter. She insists organization is self-care, essential for both mental and physical health, and for maintaining relationship harmony. Clutter is common and unrelated to intelligence, discipline, or self-worth. Shearer emphasizes, and Robbins echoes, that people often put themselves down or blame themselves, feeling shame about disorganization. This internalized shame saps mental and emotional energy.
Removing shame is central to this new approach. Both Teplin and Shearer continually remind individuals, “Erase that… erase your shame.” They clarify that the beautifully organized, color-coded pantries and closets shared on social media should inspire—not shame—viewers. These images are like a wedding album: beautiful, curated moments, not reflective of daily reality. Life is nuanced, messy, and organization should be flexible, manageable, and designed to lift rather than burden.
Robbins shares the relief that comes from thinking of organization as something you get to do for yourself, not just another item on a never-ending to-do list. Organizing gives back time, space, peace of mind, and the freedom from the mental burden chaos brings. Rather than striving to live up to picture-perfect standards, people should focus on what works for them, seeking feelings of ease, not perfection.
The group points out that clutter has a tangible mental cost. Shearer describes how having physical clutter is a constant burden, draining mental clarity and adding unnecessary stress. The brain is forced to process disorganization and register unused items, consuming energy and attention. Time becomes fragmented as people search for things or work around messes—efforts that far exceed the time needed to set up simple, clear organizational systems.
Teplin underscores that time and energy spent searching for needed items is often greater than what it would take to designate a home for them. Shearer and Robbins highlight how organization pays back more than it costs, with sustained benefits to focus, decision-making, and daily calm. Organization is more than tidying a surface; it’s a foundational act of self-respect and care that improves mental health and relationship satisfaction.
Teplin notes that organizing is like a muscle: it can be developed over time, and anyone can create simple systems suited to their life. Even small investments of effort bring meaningful returns—five minu ...
Removing Shame: Reframing Organization As Self-Care
Organizing your home can feel overwhelming, but with a step-by-step, no-shame method, you can create sustainable, stress-free systems. Experts Clea Shearer and Joanna Teplin recommend focusing on tiny, manageable tasks, acknowledging emotional hurdles, and always embracing simple, functional solutions for every space.
The most important rule is to start extremely small—"a drawer at a time," recommends Shearer. Whether it's a junk, bathroom, or kitchen drawer, these are great for quick wins and confidence boosts. Teplin explains the magic of the junk drawer: "You're not that attached to a paperclip. If it's bent out of shape, it can go." By editing small spaces, you build organizational skills and the momentum to tackle larger tasks.
Crucially, avoid "landmine spaces" like closets when starting out. Emotional triggers tied to clothes—such as old jeans or maternity wear—can bring up tough questions about body image, past decisions, and identity. "Clothes are really hard," says Teplin, and closets hold many aspirational or sentimental items. Begin with emotionally neutral areas, and once your confidence grows, move to higher-stakes projects with greater self-compassion.
Another key is not taking on more than you can finish in a day. "Do not start an edit, do not take out more than you can put away in the same day," stresses Shearer. Whole-room or all-day blitzes lead to exhaustion and demoralization if left unfinished. Instead, finish one small zone before moving to the next—each finished space builds motivation and keeps overwhelm away.
For organizing systems to last, they must fit your home's natural rhythms. "Don’t fight the tide, create a home where things naturally end up," says Shearer. If shoes gather by the door, put down a shoe bin or basket so they’re contained instead of scattered on the floor. The same applies to keys, glasses, and mail that accumulate on the kitchen counter—add a tray or basket right where everyone drops these items. This way, you address both “me problems” (wanting things arranged a certain way) and “them problems” (items not being put away at all).
Simple systems make organization easier for everyone and help prevent frustration. System failure often occurs when there are too many steps involved; conversely, obvious, one-step homes for things—like bins, hooks, or a labeled tray—hold up even as family members move throughout the day.
Simplicity is essential for both setup and maintenance. Applying the 80-20 rule keeps drawers, closets, and storage areas only 80% full—never stuffed. Shearer notes: "You only have X amount of space. So your items that you keep cannot exceed your space." If hangers don’t fit, it’s time to purge, not add more.
For pantries, Shearer and Teplin recommend just six basic categories: breakfast, dinner, snacks, baking, cooking, and dessert. Bins or baskets for each group streamline both storage and retrieval. While ambitious micro-categories look pretty, they’re hard to maintain for most busy people. Labeling bins and containers isn’t just for looks—labels are "a set of instructions for the household" and a key to system upkeep.
Specialized containers aren’t necessary—you can repurpose old box lids as drawer dividers for a zero-cost solution. Labeling and designating spots make it clear where things go and greatly reduce household confusion and friction. Use leftover boxes or affordable bins, and rely on labels to keep everyone on the same page. If you want to ...
Organizing Strategies: Start Small, Categorize, and Simplify
Joanna Teplin and Clea Shearer advocate for a practical, compassionate approach to home organization rooted in the principle that progress and maintenance matter more than perfection. Their philosophy, built around the “80-20 rule,” emphasizes that organization is an ongoing process, not a one-time event.
Teplin explains that organization is “a muscle”—you don’t have to be born with it, but you can build it over time with regular practice. Organizing isn’t a one-and-done task; it requires the same kind of maintenance and recommitment as exercise or relationships. Shearer warns that thinking of organizing as a static achievement—a “snapshot in time”—leads to frustration because living spaces are dynamic, with new items constantly flowing in and out.
Both emphasize that misplaced items and clutter are normal parts of the organizational process. If something is out of place—like steak knives in the junk drawer—it isn’t the end of your organizing journey. Like missing a few days at the gym, you simply recommit and continue. Perfection isn't the expectation; maintenance is.
Shearer advises that complications arise when organizing systems are too complex. If systems become unmanageable, the solution is to simplify—not to abandon organizing altogether. She insists systems should be easy to maintain so that when things go off the rails, it's simple to get back on track.
Shearer and Teplin promote what they call a “low bar lifestyle.” Setting low expectations means ordinary tasks—making your bed, organizing a drawer, or spending fifteen minutes editing your possessions—count as successes. Each small effort is worth celebrating.
They encourage people to let go of perfectionism, which often paralyzes the process before it starts. Any investment of effort, energy, time, or resources into organizing is meaningful—no matter how small. You don’t need to overhaul your entire space at once; organizing in pieces ensures that each act remains manage ...
Organization and the 80-20 Rule for Sustainable Spaces
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