In this episode of The Mel Robbins Podcast, mindset researcher Alia Crum and Mel Robbins explore how our beliefs and mental "settings" affect our physical responses to stress, food, exercise, and medicine. Crum shares research demonstrating the tangible effects of mindset on biology, including studies showing how participants' hormonal responses changed based solely on their beliefs about what they were consuming.
The discussion examines practical approaches to shifting mindsets for better health outcomes. Crum and Robbins detail strategies for reframing common experiences like healthy eating and stress management, while exploring how mindsets about intelligence and abilities can be adjusted. The conversation draws on research about placebos and their ability to create real physiological changes, illustrating the connection between mind and body.

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Alia Crum's groundbreaking research reveals how our beliefs and mindsets significantly impact our bodies' responses to stress, food, exercise, and medicine.
According to Crum, mindsets act as mental "settings" or "lenses" that shape our fundamental beliefs about experiences. These beliefs guide our attention, emotions, motivation, and even our physical responses to different situations. Mel Robbins adds that these mindsets are often cemented through life experiences, affecting how we perceive and react to various situations, from medical conditions to everyday challenges like fear of flying.
Crum's research provides compelling evidence of how mindsets affect biological responses. In her milkshake study, participants who believed they were drinking an "indulgent" shake showed different hormonal responses compared to when they thought they were consuming a diet shake, despite it being the same 350-calorie beverage.
The power of mindset is further demonstrated through placebo studies. Crum's research shows that even when taking real migraine medication, patients experienced less relief if they believed it was a placebo. Remarkably, even known placebos can trigger genuine physiological changes, from reducing blood pressure to activating dopaminergic systems in the brain.
Crum emphasizes the importance of reframing our approach to health and fitness. Rather than viewing healthy eating as restrictive, she suggests focusing on pleasure and indulgence, such as serving healthy beverages in special ways or adding enjoyable elements to nutritious meals.
Drawing on work from Carol Dweck and David Yeager, Crum discusses the value of adopting malleable mindsets about intelligence and abilities. She also highlights how viewing stress as a helpful tool rather than a threat can lead to more adaptive responses, particularly when facing health challenges like cancer treatment.
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Alia Crum's pivotal research underscores the profound influence that beliefs and mindsets have on shaping how our bodies respond to stress, food, exercise, and medicine.
Mindset, as described by Alia Crum, functions as the "settings" or "lenses" in our mind. These settings align us with a specific set of experiences and responses, determined by our fundamental beliefs about the nature of something and why it matters. Crum notes that while mindsets are not intrinsically true or false, they represent oversimplified judgments capable of shifting what we pay attention to, our emotional states, our incentives to take action, and our eventual behavior. Additionally, research by Crum reveals that mindsets carry physiological implications, altering how our bodies anticipate and react to different stimuli.
The experiential data suggests that if someone perceives a cake as indulgent rather than focusing on potentially unhealthy ingredients like Crisco, it can actually taste more appealing. Moreover, Dr. Crum's research has uncovered that adopting a mindset of indulgence can reduce cravings and feelings of hunger biologically, as opposed to the sense of restriction and scarcity that signals to the body it is not satisfied.
In terms of facing daunting health diagnoses like cancer, Crum posits that embracing a manageable viewpoint rather than that of a catastrophe can be transformative. Such a mindset not only enhances the overall experience but can also alleviate physical symptoms such as nausea and fatigue during treatments like chemotherapy.
Explanations from Mel Robbins support Crum's stance, putting forward the idea that life experiences cement specific se ...
Science: How Mindsets Influence Biology and Behavior
Alia Crum and her research highlight how belief systems can dramatically affect physiological and biological responses in terms of diet, hunger, and even medication efficacy.
Crum's study monitored participants who drank a 350-calorie milkshake while their ghrelin levels, a hormone regulating hunger and metabolism, were measured. When told they were consuming an "indulgent" 620-calorie shake, their bodies responded as if they had consumed more food, resulting in a significant ghrelin decrease. Conversely, when presented with the same shake under the guise of a "SensaShake," a supposed 140-calorie diet shake, the decrease in ghrelin was much less pronounced, which could lead to increased hunger and lower metabolism.
Crum suggests that enjoying the pleasure in food and indulging healthily can beneficially impact the body's response to food. This contrasts with a mindset of restraint, which can be unhealthy physiologically concerning hunger signals and metabolism. Particularly, when expecting a healthy, low-calorie shake, participants' bodies acted as if they weren't getting enough, counterintuitive to the goal of dieting and consuming "sensible" shakes.
Crum points out that the placebo effect shows the power of mindset in therapeutic outcomes. In one of her studies, participants given the real migraine medication [restricted term] but were told it was a placebo experienced diminished relief compared to when they were aware they were taking [restricted term]. Even when participants knew they were taking a placebo, it still produced a better outcome than taking nothing at all, suggesting that belief impacts physiological health.
Empirical Studies Demonstrating the Power of Mindsets
Understanding and adopting empowering mindsets can have transformative effects on one's health, capabilities, and response to stress.
Alia Crum emphasizes transforming one's approach towards healthy eating by shifting the mindset from seeing healthy foods as undesirable to associating them with pleasure and indulgence. She suggests enhancing a salad with tasty additions or redefining usually non-indulgent options like V8 juice to be served in a special way, such as in a wine glass with lemon.
Crum also touches on the importance of mindsets when considering exercise. Although no specific strategies were directly mentioned in the conversation, the implication is clear—view workouts as a privilege and an opportunity to strengthen and enjoy your body rather than a chore.
Through the work of scholars like Carol Dweck and David Yeager, Crum discusses the concept of mindsets about intelligence or abilities as being malleable. By adopting a mindset that acknowledges the potential for growth and change, one fosters motivation and a sense of capability.
Crum and Mel Robbins discuss the power of believing in one's ability to change. This mindset nurtures self-compassion and resilience, encourag ...
Practical Strategies For Adopting Empowering Mindsets
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