In this episode of the Shawn Ryan Show, Father Chad Ripperger discusses the spiritual dimensions of contemporary events and cultural shifts through a Catholic theological lens. Ripperger explains the hierarchy of angels and demons, detailing how fallen angels work to undermine Christian faith and corrupt human souls through subtle influence and deception. He connects modern phenomena—including the intensifying cultural attacks on Christianity and the government's UFO disclosure narrative—to coordinated spiritual warfare against the faith.
Ripperger provides practical guidance on spiritual defense, emphasizing prayer, the rosary, and invoking guardian angels as primary weapons against demonic influence. The conversation explores fundamental Christian doctrines including the nature of sacrifice, the structure of heaven and hell, and the operation of divine mercy and eternal justice. Throughout, Ripperger challenges Christians to defend their faith actively, understand theology deeply, and maintain spiritual vigilance in what he characterizes as an increasingly hostile spiritual battlefield centered on the human mind and will.

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Chad Ripperger explains that God exists in eternity—the "eternal now"—perceiving all events simultaneously. Angels exist in the avum, which has a beginning but no end, while humans are created in time. God created all angels at once in a state of innocence, perfection, and grace, establishing a hierarchy that remains unchanged.
The angelic order consists of nine choirs arranged in three tiers. The highest tier—Seraphim, Cherubim, and Thrones—are perfected in loving and knowing God, then transmitting this knowledge downward. The middle choirs function as administration, while the lower choirs, including Archangels and Angels, execute God's will and interact directly with humanity. Each angel is a unique species with distinct natures and roles fully known to them upon creation.
Upon creation, angels were infused with comprehensive knowledge of their identity, tasks, God's nature, and the stakes: obedience brought eternal happiness, while rebellion led to damnation. The angels' test involved confronting desires for higher perfections not intrinsic to their nature. Having clear and perfect knowledge, angels' wills became irrevocably "fixed" with their first moral choice—there is no repentance or second chance.
Ripperger explains that one-third of angels fell, led by Lucifer, originally a Cherubim tasked with promoting sacrifice and illuminating human souls. These fallen angels now subvert God's design by corrupting human perception of sacrifice, convincing people they cannot separate from earthly goods, thus undermining their capacity to offer these goods to God. This demonic influence leverages intellectual conviction to keep people bound to lesser things.
Guardian angels communicate via infused knowledge and can hear directed thoughts. They influence imagination, grant clarity, and help illuminate the mind for decision-making, though their interventions are typically subtle rather than dramatic. Demons mimic this communication but never promote virtue or love of God—only disorder, distortion, and attachment to lesser goods.
After the fall, Saint Michael separated faithful and fallen angels, ending direct conflict between them. The primary battlefield is now the human mind and body, where angelic and demonic influences contend for souls through thoughts, temptations, and inspirations.
Ripperger, an experienced exorcist, outlines essential tactics and spiritual tools for believers engaged in spiritual warfare, emphasizing that God listens to human petitions and will grant what is appropriately and precisely requested.
Prayer stands as the foundational weapon, with specificity being crucial. Ripperger recounts examples where calling directly upon Jesus' name instantly terminated negative spiritual encounters, including alleged alien abductions. The rosary is particularly emphasized as a spiritual weapon, with St. Padre Pio calling it "the weapon." Ripperger references the Battle of Lepanto, where Christians praying the rosary achieved victory over numerically superior forces. Binding prayers and consecration to God or the Virgin Mary also provide powerful protection against demonic interference.
Humans can engage their guardian angels directly by turning their mind and heart in prayer—a form of spiritual communication. Saints and the Virgin Mary may also be invoked for intercession. Ripperger explains that God grants requests more readily when presented through those He especially loves, making intercessory prayer particularly potent. The involvement of guardian angels in a believer's life is proportional to the frequency and specificity of requests made to them.
Angels and demons both influence human perception but in opposite ways. Demons sow confusion and induce vice, while angels clarify situations and inspire virtue. Ripperger notes that humans possess inherent rights over their bodies that even demons must respect due to natural law. By persistently asserting their will and commanding demonic influences to depart, believers can force demons to leave.
Ripperger and Shawn Ryan discuss the intensifying spiritual and cultural assault on Christianity, connecting this struggle to the rise of the UFO and alien disclosure movement as a deliberate strategy to discredit Christian faith.
Ripperger asserts that Satan and demons are gaining greater ascendancy, using worldly systems to aggressively target Christianity—the one religion they recognize as true. Ryan notes that Christianity is uniquely extracted from public institutions even as other ideologies and religions receive acceptance and protection, pointing to what Ripperger describes as spiritual coordination. They trace how behaviors once recognized as immoral become normalized and redefined as goods, making Christian teachings seem offensive.
A further problem lies within Christian communities themselves. Ripperger argues that Christians, conditioned by a misunderstood application of "turn the other cheek," err in thinking they must passively accept abuse against their faith. He clarifies that Jesus' teachings require forgiveness, not abandonment of defending the faith. Christians have an obligation to fight for Christ's glory and resist evil, rather than enabling it out of misplaced charity.
Ryan recounts highly publicized government disclosures on UFOs coordinated with Hollywood and media, suggesting this synchrony is intended to destabilize Christian doctrine. Ripperger interprets this as an orchestrated campaign to psychologically manipulate the population, offering alternative explanations for human origins that directly compete with Christianity. He connects "alien abduction" narratives to demonic deception, noting that alleged communications from aliens typically purport to offer solutions for humanity's problems, thereby supplanting Christianity's salvation story.
Both speakers note an emerging narrative that aliens wrote the Bible as a means of controlling humanity, which seeks to discredit Christian faith by asserting its scriptures have extraterrestrial rather than divine origin.
Ripperger argues that the existence of rational extraterrestrial life poses insurmountable difficulties for orthodox Christian theology. The doctrines of original sin, universal redemption through Christ, and the groaning of all creation for salvation leave no room for parallel intelligent life independent of the Adamic Fall. He also notes that top astrophysicists reject the possibility of interplanetary travel due to immense energy requirements.
Ripperger advises Christians to defend their faith by learning theology deeply, understanding opposing views, using reason over emotion, and being willing to endure opposition for the sake of truth. Christians must speak truth without sacrificing it to spare feelings, which is essential for upholding the integrity of faith in an increasingly hostile world.
The spiritual battle centers on the struggle between detachment from earthly desires for greater spiritual good and demonic efforts to prevent true sacrifice and virtue.
Ripperger, drawing on Thomas Aquinas, explains that God desires the sacrifice of will for greater spiritual goods, which is foundational to all virtue. Sacrifice involves three essential components: offertory (setting apart a good to give to God), slaying (the actual loss or surrender), and consummation (complete consumption with nothing held back). This process undoes the effects of sin and perfects the soul.
Satan's principal tactic is convincing people they cannot be separated from their desires or lesser goods, preventing them from offering true sacrifice and thus achieving spiritual greatness. Ripperger recounts a demonic admission that this strategy—making people believe they cannot part with attachments—lies at the root of all sin and mediocrity.
Demons closely observe individuals, seeking weaknesses to exploit and amplify, particularly disordered desires fueled by corrupting influences like pornography. However, their access is limited and always under Christ's sovereign control. If God permits temptation, it is ultimately for refining virtue and faith. Children, due to their innocence and vulnerability, are particularly at risk, making parental guidance and virtue training crucial.
The true battlefield in spiritual warfare is the mind and conscience, where angels and demons contest for control over perceptions, thoughts, and destiny. Demonic influence distorts reality, convincing people that disorder is actually order and evil is good. Such deception leads societies to embrace evil and attack those who maintain truthful perception. Ripperger urges continual vigilance, prioritizing God above all desires, seeking angelic protection, practicing sacrificial detachment, and maintaining spiritual clarity.
Ripperger offers a detailed vision of the afterlife's structure and the operating principles of divine mercy and eternal justice.
Heaven is structured in levels determined by the degree of holiness attained during earthly life, measured primarily by sanctifying grace present in the soul. The more grace and virtue one acquires, the higher one's place in heaven and the greater the understanding and intimacy with God. Humans can surpass even some angels in this hierarchy because, unlike angels whose holiness is fixed by their one choice, humans can continue accumulating grace through free will and good deeds.
Hell also possesses an inverted hierarchy, where greater evil means lower position but paradoxically confers greater power over others. Even among the damned, there is order based on corruption rather than holiness.
The central reward of heaven is the beatific vision—seeing God face to face. God infuses the soul with "light of glory," enabling direct perception of God. The capacity for this vision is proportional to one's holiness: the holier the soul, the more fully it comprehends God's majesty. In heaven, all souls interact in perfect harmony, entirely free from envy, with those of lesser perfection rejoicing in the greater happiness of others.
Divine mercy is the loosening of strict justice for the true good of the individual. While justice requires that evil deeds receive proportionate suffering, God sometimes lightens or removes punishment when it serves the person's spiritual benefit. God's mercy is eternal because He exists outside time, beholding all moments—offenses and repentance—at once. Christ's eternal sacrifice provides the means by which God can be both perfectly just and infinitely merciful, enabling God to forgive sins and bestow eternal blessings when a soul is contrite.
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Chad Ripperger explains that before anything else existed, there was only God, who is goodness itself. God exists in eternity—the "eternal now"—without beginning or end, perceiving all events simultaneously. In contrast, time has a beginning and an end; angels exist in the avum, which has a beginning but no end, and so angels will always exist. Humans are created in time and will exist until the final judgment.
When God created the angels, He did so in a state of innocence, perfection, and grace so their very nature reflected a qualitative participation in His divinity. He created the entire hierarchy of angels at once, an order that remains unchanged: no more angels will be created, nor can any fall after that initial moment.
The angelic order is divided into nine choirs arranged in three tiers. The highest tier includes the Seraphim, Cherubim, and Thrones. The Seraphim’s task is to love God and contemplate Him for all eternity; the Cherubim are perfected in knowing God and grasping His mysteries; the Thrones take this knowledge and transmit it to the middle choirs for administrative purposes. The middle choir—the Thrones, Principalities, Powers, and Dominions—function as the administration or "middle management," transmitting governance and knowledge further down to the lowest choirs. The lower choirs—Virtues, Archangels, and Angels—act as the “foot soldiers,” executing God's will, undertaking direct interaction with the material world and humanity.
Each angel is a unique species, distinct from all others. Their specific natures and roles were fully known to them upon their creation. For example, the rank of one's guardian angel is proportionate to one's intended impact in history—important leaders like priests or bishops may be assigned an archangel in addition to a guardian angel. Angels understand their role, tasks, and essence with absolute clarity from the first moment of their being.
The Seraphim possess the highest perfection in love, spending eternity beholding God's infinite goodness and never exhausting the joy it brings. The Cherubim’s excellence lies in understanding God’s nature and the mysteries of His will. Thrones receive this understanding, then relay and delegate tasks to the middle choirs, which focus on administration. The lower choirs, including Archangels like Gabriel, Michael, and Raphael, are responsible for carrying out the divine plan on earth, especially by serving as messengers or protectors for humans.
Upon creation, angels were infused with comprehensive knowledge: their own identity and essence, the nature of other angels, their assigned tasks, knowledge of God’s triune nature, and an understanding of the created order. They instantaneously knew the stakes: obedience brought the beatific vision (eternal happiness in the presence of God), while rebellion led to damnation and misery.
The angels' test consisted of confronting the desire for higher perfections not intrinsic to their created nature. To remain faithful, they had to sacrifice their desire for these perfections in obedience to God’s will, recognizing that such sacrifice led to a greater good—union with God.
Having clear and perfect knowledge, angels’ wills are irrevocably “fixed” with their first moral choice: their initial decision for or against God set their eternal fate. Those who rebelled did so knowingly and completely; thus, there is no repentance or second chance for angels as there is for humans.
Scripture and the Fathers of the Church interpret Revelation to mean that one-third of the angels fell, symbolized by the dragon sweeping a third of the stars from the sky. Lucifer, originally tasked with promoting the good of sacrifice and the illumination of human souls, was the chief among these and belonged to the choir of Cherubim, whose perfection lay in intellect. In their rebellion, fallen angels not only rejected their tasks but committed to the utter and permanent refusal of God’s order—a state of perfect self-hatred.
The fallen angels, led by Lucifer (now Satan), subvert God's design by corrupting human perception of sacrifice—convincing people that they cannot separate themselves from created goods, thus undermining their capacity to offer these goods to God. This mirrors the original temptation and is at the root of sin. Demonic influence leverages intellectual conviction to persuade hu ...
The Nature and Hierarchy of Angels and Demons
Chad Ripperger, an experienced exorcist, outlines the essential tactics and spiritual tools available to believers engaged in spiritual warfare. His insights emphasize both the mechanics of prayer and a proper understanding of angelic and demonic influence.
Prayer stands as the foundational weapon in spiritual warfare. Ripperger explains that effective spiritual combat is grounded in the foundational spiritual principle that God listens to human petitions and will grant what is appropriately and precisely requested. As Christ taught, “ask and you shall receive,” and “knock and the door will be opened.” According to Ripperger, the act of asking—especially with specificity and true need—is crucial: the more precisely one requests divine intervention, the more effective the results.
He recounts examples where calling directly upon Jesus' name instantly terminated negative spiritual encounters, underscoring the immediate efficacy of prayer. People pleading for Christ’s help during experiences of supposed alien abduction frequently report that the phenomenon ceases instantly, demonstrating that spiritual intervention occurs exactly as requested.
The rosary is especially emphasized as a spiritual weapon. Ripperger calls it a sacramental with profound efficacy, referencing St. Padre Pio's description of the rosary as "the weapon." The rosary’s structure and the act of entrusting intentions to it are deeply rooted in tradition, with a historic example being the Battle of Lepanto. At the order of Pope Pius V, Christians prayed the rosary en masse for victory over the Turks, and their significantly outnumbered forces succeeded. This victory is credited to the intercessory power of the rosary, and saints throughout history have likewise attested to its ability to overcome personal vices and spiritual adversity.
Binding prayers and acts of consecration, where individuals or objects are dedicated to God or the Virgin Mary, are also significant. Ripperger references resources like The Lorence Prayers for Our Lady, explaining that such practices invoke special protection and can stop or bind demonic action. Consecration and these focused prayers serve as shields, providing ongoing spiritual defense.
Ripperger teaches that prayer not only connects humans to God but also provides a way to communicate with angels and saints.
Humans can engage their guardian angels directly, not through physical voice but by turning their mind and heart in prayer—much like a telepathic, spiritual communication. Angels are immaterial and communicate directly by thought; humans can participate in this communication by mentally directing petitions to their angels, who can then respond by intervening, protecting, or inspiring.
Saints—especially the Virgin Mary—may also be invoked for their intercession before God. Ripperger likens this to approaching someone with more influence or favor with a request: while God hears all prayers, He delights in granting petitions presented through those He especially loves, such as saints and angels.
Ripperger explains that God has established a spiritual system in which He often grants favors more readily when petitioned by saints or angels on another’s behalf. This kind of advocacy—mirrored in many earthly relationships—makes intercessory prayer especially potent.
The involvement of guardian angels in a believer’s life is proportional to the frequency and specificity of requests made to them. Ripperger stresses that the more one invokes and communicates with their guardian angel, the more present and active the angel becomes, providing greater assistance, protection, and interventions. He describes stories in which prayers to guardian angels or saints have resulted in dramatic, tangible outcomes, from miraculous escapes to protection during periods of danger or confusion. Moreover, every person, family, community, and institution has a dedicated guardian angel whos ...
Spiritual Warfare Tactics and Defensive Tools
The conversation between Chad Ripperger and Shawn Ryan centers on the intensifying spiritual and cultural assault on Christianity and connects this high-stakes struggle to the rise of the UFO and alien disclosure movement. They frame this as a deliberate strategy—fueled by both spiritual entities and earthly agents—aimed at discrediting Christian faith and replacing its central truths with deceptive alternatives.
Ripperger asserts that Satan and demons are gaining greater ascendancy in the world, using people and worldly systems to aggressively target Christianity—the one religion they recognize as true. He points out instances where administrations, even within the United States, have singled out Christians for punitive treatment. Globally, persecution comes not just from governments but from antagonistic adherents of other religions as well.
Ripperger and Ryan discuss how, in modern Western societies, Christianity is uniquely extracted from public institutions—government and schools—even as other ideologies and religions are afforded acceptance and legal protection. Ryan notes that people are required to comply with or respect a host of perspectives, such as those related to LGBTQ issues, Islam, and Judea, but are often met with hostility if they mention Christianity. This points to what Ripperger describes as a spiritual coordination in the assault, with Satan and demons ensuring Christianity bears the brunt of opposition.
They trace a cultural progression where behaviors once universally recognized as immoral, such as fornication, become not only normalized but redefined as goods. As cultural norms shift, those maintaining a Christian standard—like teaching chastity—are increasingly attacked as unreasonable or regressive. Ripperger emphasizes that this isn't merely social drift, but a spiritual distortion of morality, moving society further from objective good and making Christian teachings seem offensive.
A further problem, they argue, lies within Christian communities themselves. Christians, conditioned by a misunderstood application of Christ's command to "turn the other cheek," err in thinking they must passively accept abuse and offense against their faith. Ripperger corrects this misconception, arguing that Jesus’ teachings require forgiveness, not permissiveness or abandonment of defending the faith. Saint Thomas Aquinas, he notes, distinguishes between private mercy and the public good—Christians have an obligation to fight for Christ’s glory and resist evil, rather than enabling it out of a misplaced sense of charity. Being merciful can sometimes enable sin, which harms both the sinner and the faith community. The result of Christian passivity, Ripperger concludes, is an "effeminate unwillingness" to battle for God's honor, which leaves the faith vulnerable.
The discussion shifts to a timeline of highly publicized U.S. government disclosures on UFOs and the interplay with media and Hollywood, framing this as a synchrony intended to destabilize Christian doctrine.
Ryan recounts a string of events: prominent government officials publicly connecting UFO phenomena to demons, the release of UFO files with major media fanfare, and high-profile films synchronizing releases with real-world disclosures. Pastors reportedly met with U.S. officials who warned them to prepare their congregations for the theological upheaval that “disclosure” may cause. Hollywood amplifies the message through movies and interviews, posing questions about whether the Christian God is Earth-specific.
Ripperger interprets this as an orchestrated campaign, arguing that anti-Christian actors in government aim to psychologically manipulate the population, offering alternative explanations for human origins that directly compete with Christianity. Ignorance of history and theology leaves people vulnerable to messaging that reframes scripture as alien manipulation.
Ripperger connects the “alien abduction” and “extra-terrestrial message” narratives to demonic deception. Alleged communications from aliens almost always purport to offer solutions for humanity’s problems, thereby aiming to supplant Christianity’s salvation story. The story that “aliens created humanity” and seeded Earth echoes a direct challenge to the Genesis narrative. Messaging suggesting that alien contact offers hope or salvation is presented as an attempt to reposition Christianity as obsolete.
Both speakers note an emerging narrative—that aliens wrote the Bible as a means of controlling humanity. This message, already circulating in popular culture, seeks to discredit Christian faith by asserting that its scriptures have an extr ...
Christianity Under Attack and the Alien Disclosure Narrative
The spiritual battle for human souls centers on the struggle between detachment from earthly desires for greater spiritual good and the relentless efforts of demonic forces to prevent true sacrifice and virtue. Chad Ripperger, drawing on the insights of Thomas Aquinas and his own experiences, explains how this cosmic contest shapes individuals, families, and societies.
According to Ripperger, Thomas Aquinas teaches that the ultimate desire of God for every intelligent creature—both angels and humans—is the sacrifice of their own will to God's will. This surrender of self-will is foundational to virtue and spiritual advancement. Ripperger explains that sacrifice, as taught in the Old Testament and exemplified by Christ, always involves three essential components: offertory, slaying, and consummation.
The offertory is the setting apart of something good—a lesser good—that one is willing to give up for God. In this offering, the person becomes better, achieving a greater good by detaching from something precious and giving it to God. This principle is illustrated by the distinction between Abel, who gave his best to God, and Cain, who held back. Detachment is crucial; the best of oneself must be rendered to God, echoing Christ’s own words in Gethsemane: “Not my will but thine be done.”
The slaying of the victim, as in the Passion and death of Christ, signifies the actual loss or surrender of what is offered. Consummation means the victim is completely consumed, with nothing held back, representing total self-sacrifice. Christ's words “consummatum est” on the Cross confirm the fulfillment of this sacrificial pattern. The process undoes the effects of sin and perfects the soul through merit, suffering, and total dedication to God.
Satan’s principal tactic is intellectual: convincing people that they cannot be separated from their desires or lesser goods. This illusion prevents them from offering true sacrifice and thus from achieving spiritual greatness. Ripperger recounts a demonic admission that this strategy—making people believe they cannot part with their attachments—is how the devil subverted Adam and Eve, corrupts the Church, undermines government, and lies at the root of all sin and mediocrity. The inability to make sacrifices halts the pursuit of virtue, whether the virtue is temperance, chastity, or justice.
Ripperger explains that demons closely observe individuals, seeking weaknesses—especially disordered desires such as those fueled by pornography—to exploit and amplify. Exposure to corrupting influences at a young age, such as children encountering pornography, fosters desires that become difficult to master through natural or supernatural means. Demons use other individuals to introduce these temptations, leveraging fallen human nature’s inclination toward excessive pleasure (concupiscence).
Demons do not have free reign; their access is limited and always under the sovereign control of Christ. If God permits, a demon may be allowed to tempt or test someone, but this is ultimately for the purpose of refining virtue and faith—mirroring the way combat forges a stronger soldier. The struggle, though brutal, often results in profound virtue, sacrifice, and self-mastery.
Children, due to their innocence and vulnerability, are particularly at risk of demonic influence through exposure to evil and disordered desires. Parental formation, fostering spiritual discipline, and participating in the sacraments are crucial for helping children resist these influence ...
The Spiritual Battle for Human Souls
The Catholic tradition, as explained by Chad Ripperger, offers a detailed vision of the afterlife’s structure and the operating principles of divine mercy and eternal justice.
Heaven is structured in levels, determined by the degree of holiness an individual attains during earthly life. This holiness is measured primarily by the sanctifying grace present in the soul, a qualitative change resulting from God's indwelling. The more sanctifying grace and virtue one acquires, the higher one’s place in heaven and the greater the understanding and intimacy with God. The saints and the faithful are distributed in heaven according to the virtues and good actions they cultivated on earth, meaning some will enjoy specific divine gifts and pleasures more profoundly.
Humans can surpass even some angels in this hierarchy. Angels’ holiness is fixed and proportionate to their nature, decided by their one choice for or against God. They cannot increase their merit after that decision. In contrast, humans can continue accumulating sanctifying grace through their free will, deeds, and striving for holiness during their earthly journey. Tradition holds that figures such as the Virgin Mary and the Apostles hold places above even the highest choirs of angels, with other saints filling ranks above certain angels based on their accumulated holiness.
Hell also possesses a hierarchy, but it is inverted compared to heaven. In hell, the more depraved and evil a soul is, the lower its position. Paradoxically, this increased evil confers greater power or authority over others in hell. Thus, individuals who pursue greater evil in life for power are, in fact, lowering themselves within hell’s structure. Even among the damned, there is a kind of order, but it is based on corruption and destruction rather than holiness and union with God.
The central reward of heaven is the beatific vision—seeing God face to face. This surpasses any created experience. God infuses the soul with the “light of glory,” elevating the intellect so the soul can, without mediation, perceive God directly and know itself as God knows it. The capacity for beatific vision is proportional to the holiness and sanctifying grace a person has acquired: the holier the soul, the more fully it comprehends God’s majesty, resulting in a higher degree of eternal happiness. Each inhabitant of heaven is perfectly happy; yet, there are varying degrees of that perfection, depending on how closely they approached God in life.
In heaven, all souls interact in perfect harmony, entirely free from envy or discord. Those with lesser perfection rejoice in the greater vision and happiness of others, fully appreciating God’s justice and order. This mutual delight exemplifies the harmony of heaven, where every soul is precisely where divine justice and mercy have placed them, and all take pleasure in each other’s beatitude.
Divine mercy is defined as the loos ...
Heaven, Hell, and Divine Mercy
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