In this episode of the Shawn Ryan Show, cybersecurity expert Ryan Montgomery discusses online predatory groups that target children through gaming platforms like Minecraft and Roblox. The discussion centers on the 764 Group, which began with a teenager in Texas and has grown into an organization with tens of thousands of members who exploit minors through sophisticated grooming techniques and coercion.
Montgomery outlines how these groups operate through gaming platforms and social media, targeting vulnerable youth between ages 9 and 17. The episode examines law enforcement's current response to these threats, including active FBI investigations, and explores the roles that gaming companies, parents, and online platforms play in addressing this issue. The discussion includes practical recommendations for protecting children online, such as using monitoring software and understanding predators' common tactics.

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Kaya Henderson and Myles E. Johnson explore the disturbing world of the 764 Group, a predatory cult that began when a 15-year-old nonverbal boy in Texas started luring minors from Minecraft into harmful activities. According to Ryan Montgomery and Shawn, the group has evolved into a satanic cult focused on extreme violence toward children, with connections to other dangerous organizations like the Order of Nine Angles.
The cult employs sophisticated grooming techniques, targeting children ages 9-17 through popular online platforms. Members pose as supportive friends in mental health forums and music discussion pages, gradually leading victims toward harmful content and activities. Montgomery estimates the group has grown to include 20,000-30,000 members globally.
The 764 Group demands "proof of crime" for membership, forcing victims to commit acts of violence or self-harm, shared through encrypted communication channels like Discord. They promote a nihilistic ideology that justifies their exploitation of children, using coercion tactics that include forcing victims to engrave symbols into their skin and commit acts of animal cruelty.
Predators begin by building trust, often targeting vulnerable individuals struggling with mental health issues. As relationships develop, they escalate their demands from innocent engagement to requests for sexual content or self-harm. Victims like Eve face threats of exposure and are coerced into increasingly dangerous activities to prove their loyalty.
Despite having 250 active FBI investigations into the 764 Group's activities, law enforcement's response has been limited. Montgomery and Ryan point out that less than ten people nationwide are focused on stopping this online predatory behavior. Online platforms like Roblox have been criticized for their handling of the situation, with Montgomery noting that the platform actually profits from in-game purchases tied to these predatory groups.
The hosts emphasize the critical need for parents to monitor their children's online activities, recommending monitoring software like Bark, while calling for better collaboration between law enforcement, tech companies, and child protection organizations to address this growing threat.
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Kaya Henderson and Myles E. Johnson delve into the disturbing world of the 764 Group, a predatory cult leveraging technology to exploit and harm children.
The 764 Group, notorious for its extreme violence against children, started in Texas by a 15-year-old nonverbal boy who began luring minors from Minecraft into sextortion and self-harm.
A 15-year-old boy in Texas started the 764 Group, an organization that quickly extended its reach online by targeting minors through popular games such as Minecraft, coercing them into harmful activities.
Ryan Montgomery and Shawn, while discussing their grim discovery, pointed to the 764 Group as a satanic cult, focused on sextortion of children and advocating for extreme violence. The cult's activities included disturbing acts such as requesting minors to sell their souls and commit violent and abusive behaviors.
The 764 Group, influenced by the Order of Nine Angles—a group combining Satanism, neo-Nazi beliefs, and occultism—operates with offshoots, offering malicious services like bricking, swatting, and doxing while preying on young victims.
These cults employ a range of methods to groom and exploit their young targets.
Members of the 764 group exploit online platforms to target vulnerable minors. For example, they hijack mental health forums and music discussion pages to pose as supportive friends, guiding unsuspecting victims like Elliot, a 14-year-old boy, toward gore sites which led to self-harm.
The 764 Group coerces victims into engraving names or satanic symbols into their skin and pushes them to commit acts of animal cruelty. In one case, a member directed a girl named Eve to mutilate herself and harm her pet as evidence of loyalty.
Gaining entry into the 764 Group demands proof of crime. Victims are forced to commit acts of violence, often shared via encrypted communication channels such as Discord, which the group uses to orchestrate their actions and recruit new members.
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The 764 Group and Other Online Predatory Cults
Online predators employ a range of tactics to exploit children, creating environments of trust before escalating to demands that can include extortion, coercion, and violence.
Predators often present themselves as supportive friends or partners to gain the trust of their victims. They may infiltrate communities offering solace to those experiencing mental health struggles or social isolation. As friends or mentors, such as a guidance counselor in the case of Ryan Montgomery when he was 14 or 15 years old, predators can build personal connections and facilitate attachments to manipulate their victims. Members of the 764 group, for instance, pose as caring individuals to lure victims, like Elliot and Eve, from mental health forums before exploiting them.
As the relationship progresses, predators gradually escalate their demands, often starting with requests for the victim to view certain websites or share personal information, and can lead to demands for sexual content or self-harm. They exploit vulnerabilities like existing self-harming behaviors to further their control.
Predators use endearing language and attention to make victims feel unique and important. This can happen on various platforms, such as Ryan Montgomery’s experience on Roblox, which is frequented by children.
Predators take advantage of those who are bullied or self-harming by offering a false sense of trust and community before abusing these relationships for their own malevolent purposes.
What begins as seemingly innocent engagement can turn into overt manipulation, with predators demanding sexual content or self-harm from their victims.
Once predators obtain compromising material, they use it to extort their victims, threatening to disrupt the victims' lives by exposing their secrets to family, friends, and schools through tactics like the "lure book."
Eve, one of the victims, faced threats of exposure which would result in personal photographs and information being divulged to her close contacts and authorities.
The predators resort to extreme demands, including coercing victims into animal abuse or even murder to demonstrate allegiance to the predator's group or cause.
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Tactics Used by Online Predators to Exploit Children
Ryan Montgomery and Shawn Ryan address the inadequacies in response by law enforcement and online platforms in combating online predatory cults, highlighting the complexity of the issue and the dire need for increased awareness and action.
Montgomery and Ryan express their concerns regarding the lacking response from law enforcement when it comes to addressing the activities of predatory cults.
Despite the FBI having 250 active investigations into 764 group activities, there appears to be insufficient coordination and resources allocated to combat these widespread issues effectively.
They discuss cases of surprisingly lenient sentencing like a 17-year-old member of a predatory cult who, despite committing murder, received only 14 years in prison. This suggests a potentially troubling gap between the severity of the crimes and the judicial penalties imposed.
Various government agencies like the FBI, HSI, and Secret Service are characterized as having only "a little piece in this fight", indicating a fragmented approach rather than the unified and robust effort needed. Less than ten people in the entire country are focused on halting the expansion of such predatory behavior online, which is alarmingly inadequate given the scale of the problem.
The section outlines the failure of online platforms like Roblox to take meaningful action against predatory practices within their domains.
Roblox has taken steps to ban users, such as a YouTuber named Schlepp, who was exposing predators on the platform. In the wake of public scrutiny after issuing a cease and desist to these vigilantes, Roblox faced a significant loss in market value, highlighting the controversy surrounding their policies on user-led protective efforts.
Montgomery criticizes Roblox for its profit model, which includes a 30% commission on in-game purchases that may feed into activities associated with predatory groups. This suggests that Roblox may be inadvertently supporting unsavory content through its profit structures.
The hosts also hint at the inadequate moderation of content related to child crimes on Roblox despite the platform being one of the largest directed at children. The use of platforms like Discord by the 764 group further indicates a larger issue of ineffective safeguards within online environments catering to young users.
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Failures of Law Enforcement and Platforms
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