Jay & Radhi Talk About Why Men Feel So Lonely
In this episode of On Purpose, Jay Shetty and Radhi Devlukia examine the growing issue of male loneliness in America. They discuss recent statistics showing a significant increase in men without close friends, particularly among those under 35, and explore how this trend affects men's physical and mental health—with research suggesting that loneliness can be as harmful as smoking 15 cigarettes daily.
The conversation delves into how men typically form and maintain friendships, often through shared activities rather than direct emotional connection. Shetty and Devlukia analyze the social pressures that discourage men from expressing vulnerability, including early childhood conditioning and modern cultural expectations. They address the contrast between how men and women approach friendship formation, and discuss the challenges men face in building deeper emotional connections.
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Male Friendship Recession and Loneliness
Rise of Male Loneliness in the US
Radhi Devlukia shares alarming statistics about the state of male friendships in America: while only 3% of US men reported having no close friends in 1990, that number jumped to 15% by 2021. The number of men with extensive friendship circles has also declined dramatically, with only 13% reporting having 10 or more close friends in 2021, down from 33% in 1990. This trend is particularly pronounced among younger men, with one in four US men under 35 reporting feelings of loneliness.
The Social and Health Consequences of Male Loneliness
The US Surgeon General has declared loneliness a national epidemic, and for good reason. Research shows that loneliness is linked to increased risks of various health conditions, including depression, anxiety, dementia, diabetes, stroke, and heart disease. Perhaps most striking is the finding that loneliness can be as harmful as smoking 15 cigarettes daily. As Radhi notes, some men, like her father, combat this isolation through regular phone calls with friends.
Men's Bonding, Friendship Formation, and Deeper Connection Challenges
Jay Shetty explains that men typically bond through shared activities rather than conversation, often socializing in groups and connecting over interests like sports or working out together. While this activity-based bonding can create connections, Shetty notes it can limit opportunities for deeper emotional conversations. Radhi Devlukia contrasts this with how women build friendships, often creating spaces specifically for dialogue and emotional sharing through activities like having coffee or getting their nails done.
Stigma Against Male Vulnerability and Emotional Expression
The discussion reveals complex social pressures surrounding male emotional expression. Devlukia points out that while women may say they want emotionally available men, some find displays of male vulnerability unappealing. Shetty discusses how boys learn early on that emotional openness is "girly" and should be avoided. Online trends, including the 'alpha male' stereotype, further reinforce these expectations. Despite these challenges, Shetty advocates for recognizing emotional vulnerability as a strength and encourages men to seek supportive communities where they can be more open.
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- The term "Male Friendship Recession" describes the observed decline in the quality and quantity of close friendships among men over time. This trend highlights a decrease in the number of male friendships and the depth of emotional connections among men in society. Factors contributing to this phenomenon include societal norms around masculinity, changing social dynamics, and the impact of technology on interpersonal relationships. The concept underscores the importance of addressing issues related to male loneliness and the need for promoting healthier forms of male bonding and emotional expression.
- The statistics mentioned highlight a concerning trend in male friendships in the US, showing a significant increase in men reporting having no close friends and a decline in those with extensive friendship circles over the years. Particularly, the data points to a rise in loneliness among younger men, with a notable percentage experiencing feelings of isolation. These statistics underscore a shift in the social landscape, indicating challenges in forming and maintaining meaningful connections among men in American society.
- Loneliness being as harmful as smoking 15 cigarettes daily is a comparison often used to illustrate the severe health impacts of social isolation. Research has shown that chronic loneliness can lead to various physical and mental health issues, similar to the detrimental effects of smoking. This comparison highlights the significant toll that loneliness can take on an individual's overall well-being and emphasizes the importance of addressing social connections for health.
- Men often bond through shared activities like sports or working out, focusing on doing things together rather than having deep conversations. This activity-based bonding can create connections but may limit opportunities for emotional sharing and vulnerability. In contrast, women often prioritize dialogue and emotional connection in their friendships, creating spaces for sharing feelings and thoughts. Social norms and expectations around masculinity can influence how men interact and express emotions within their friendships.
- Men typically bond through shared activities like sports or working out, focusing on doing things together rather than deep conversations. Women often prioritize creating spaces for dialogue and emotional sharing, such as meeting for coffee or engaging in activities that facilitate emotional connection. This difference can lead to varying levels of emotional intimacy and support within friendships between men and women. Understanding these contrasting approaches can help individuals navigate and appreciate the diverse ways in which friendships are formed and maintained.
- The stigma against male vulnerability and emotional expression stems from societal expectations that men should be strong, stoic, and not show emotions. This stigma can lead to men feeling pressured to suppress their feelings and avoid seeking help when needed. It is often reinforced through cultural norms, media portrayals, and traditional gender roles that discourage men from being emotionally open. Overcoming this stigma involves challenging these stereotypes and promoting the idea that vulnerability is a sign of strength and courage.
- The 'alpha male' stereotype is a cultural archetype that emphasizes dominance, strength, and emotional stoicism in men. It often promotes traditional masculine traits like aggression and competitiveness while discouraging vulnerability and emotional expression. This stereotype can create pressure for men to conform to rigid gender norms, leading to difficulties in expressing emotions openly and seeking help when needed. Over time, the 'alpha male' stereotype has been criticized for perpetuating harmful ideas about masculinity and limiting men's emotional well-being.
Counterarguments
- While the statistics show a decline in close friendships among men, it's possible that the way men report or perceive close friendships has evolved, rather than an actual decrease in friendships.
- The comparison between male and female friendship styles may overlook the diversity within each gender; not all men or women fit the described patterns of bonding and emotional sharing.
- The idea that loneliness is as harmful as smoking 15 cigarettes daily is a striking comparison, but it may oversimplify the complex and multifaceted nature of health risks associated with loneliness.
- The stigma against male vulnerability might be changing with newer generations who are more open to emotional expression, suggesting that the situation could improve as societal norms evolve.
- The role of online trends and the 'alpha male' stereotype may be overstated or may not have as much influence on male behavior and friendships as suggested.
- The encouragement for men to seek supportive communities for emotional openness is positive, but it may not address the underlying systemic issues that contribute to male loneliness and the difficulty in forming deep connections.
- The assertion that some women find male vulnerability unappealing could be based on stereotypes or outdated beliefs and may not reflect the attitudes of many women today who value and support emotional openness in men.
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"Male Friendship Recession and Loneliness"
The issue of loneliness among men in the United States is becoming significantly more pronounced, with recent data indicating a rise in men without close friends and notable health risks associated with loneliness.
Rise of Male Loneliness in the Us
Recent statistics showcase a concerning trend of increased loneliness among men in the United States, suggesting a decline in close friendships over time.
Us Men With No Close Friends: 15% in 2021, 3% in 1990
Radhi Devlukia relays data showing that 15% of US men reported having no close friends in 2021, a substantial increase from just 3% in 1990, highlighting a stark contrast over three decades.
13% of Men Have 10+ Close Friends, Down From 33% in 1990
There's a significant decrease in men with a larger circle of close friends. The percentage of men who have 10 or more close friends plummeted from 33% in 1990 to just 13%.
1 In 4 Us Men Under 35 Feel Lonely, Ranking Lonelier Than Peers in Most Developed Countries
The issue of loneliness is particularly acute among younger men, with one in four US men under 35 reporting feelings of loneliness, a higher rate than their peers in most developed countries.
Jay Shetty recognizes this prevalence of loneliness, underscoring the breadth of the issue among men.
The Social and Health Consequences of Male Loneliness
The consequences of loneliness go beyond social isolation, impacting mental and physical health as well.
Us Surgeon General Declares Loneliness a National Epidemic
The societal impact of loneliness is noteworthy, with the US Surgeon General going as far as declaring loneliness a national epidemic, signaling an urgent need for societal attention to this growing concern.
Loneliness Linked To Higher Depression, Anxiety, Dementia, Diabetes, Stroke, Heart Disease Risks
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- Jay Shetty is a British podcaster, author, entrepreneur, and life coach known for discussing mental health and life purpose. He was born in London to a Hindu family of Indian origin and has a background in the Hare Krishna movement. Shetty gained popularity for his insights on personal development and mindfulness, reaching a wide audience through various media platforms.
- The Surgeon General in the United States is the chief public health officer responsible for providing Americans with information to improve their health and reduce health risks. The Surgeon General plays a crucial role in addressing public health issues and promoting well-being across the nation. This position holds significant influence in shaping health policies and initiatives to benefit the population. The Surgeon General's declarations and recommendations often carry weight in guiding public health practices and interventions.
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Men's Bonding, Friendship Formation, and Deeper Connection Challenges
Jay Shetty and Radhi Devlukia explore the complexities of men's friendships, how they differ from women’s, and examine the potential obstacles to forging deeper emotional connections.
Men Bond Through Shared Activities Rather Than Conversation
According to Jay Shetty, men often socialize in groups and bond over shared interests and activities. Shetty uses his own inclination for group socialization and his experience with bonding over sports, such as calling a friend to talk about Manchester United's performance, as examples of how men typically connect.
Men Bond Through Sports, Hobbies, or Watching Games
Shetty and Devlukia observe that men often bond during group activities like working out together at the gym or watching a game at the pub. Men travel in groups and are particularly noted to hype each other up during physical activities. Men's common connection points, such as playing sports or watching games, are largely about the shared experience and less about deep one-on-one conversations.
Activity Bonding Limits Emotional Conversations
Shetty shares that bonding with another man through deep conversation is not the norm; in fact, group environments tend to limit the opportunity for emotional conversations. Men may have difficulty finding space for meaningful discussions during or outside of their usual activities, indicating that activities can hinder emotional openness. Devlukia observes that many men's friendships do not involve deep conversation about feelings due to their activity-focused nature.
Differences In how Women and Men Build Friendships
Women, contrastingly, tend to create spaces that are conducive to dialogue and emotional sharing. Radhi Devlukia notes this difference and points to how it affects men's ability to form deeper connections.
Women Bond Through Dialogue-Driven Activities Like Coffee or Nails
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- Men can and do engage in deep conversations and emotional sharing in the context of shared activities; the activities can serve as a starting point for deeper engagement.
- The distinction between how men and women bond may be overly generalized and not account for individual differences and cultural variations.
- Some men may prefer and actively seek out emotional conversations and may not find it challenging to transition to emotionally intimate friendships.
- The idea that men bond primarily through activities while women bond through dialogue could be influenced by societal expectations and gender roles, which are changing.
- Emotional intimacy in friendships is not solely defined by verbal communication; it can also be expressed through actions, support, and shared experiences.
- The assumption that activity-based bonding is less valuable or meaningful than dialogue-driven bonding overlooks the significance of different types of bonding an ...
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- Start a book or film club with your male friends to blend activities with deeper discussions. By choosing thought-provoking material, you can naturally transition from discussing the content to sharing personal insights and emotions, fostering a space for emotional intimacy within a familiar structure.
- Organize a "walk and talk" outing where the primary goal is to pair up and discuss a specific topic or life event while walking. This combines the comfort of an activity with the opportunity for more profound conversation, helping to bridge the gap between doing and sharing.
- Create a "skil ...
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Stigma Against Male Vulnerability and Emotional Expression
Jay Shetty and Radhi Devlukia discuss the challenges men face regarding vulnerability and emotional expression in a society that often discourages such openness.
Perception of Emotional Vulnerability as Weakness For Men
Some Women See Emotional Men As Undesirable
Radhi Devlukia notes that while women sometimes want men who are emotionally available, they do not always favor men who are emotional. She shares a story of a friend who finds seeing a man cry as a turn-off, highlighting how vulnerability can be perceived as undesirable.
Online Trends Reinforce Stoic Male Stereotype
Both Shetty and Devlukia recognize the influence of online trends, such as the 'alpha male' stereotype, on men's emotional expression. Shetty mentions this stereotype, which equates 'high value' men with discipline and perseverance, not openness about feelings. Devlukia points out that TikTok trends often mock or dismiss men who express vulnerability, reinforcing the belief that men should remain stoic.
Overcoming Conditioning to Suppress Emotions as a Man
Boys Learn Early That Emotional Openness Is "Girly" and to Avoid It
Shetty talks about the early conditioning of boys, who learn to see emotional openness as feminine and, therefore, something to avoid. He expresses concern that men are frequently mocked for showing emotional vulnerability, which contributes to them feeling pressure to uphold a façade of toughness and emotional detachment, even when they struggle.
Men May Feel Pressured to Sustain a Tough, Unemotional Façade Even In Struggles
Despite society's shifting views, with more men publicly sharing mental health struggles, Shetty acknowledges the long-standing difficulty men have with being vulnerable. He advocates for recognizing emotional vulnerability as a strength and suggests finding a supportive community.
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- While some women may find emotional men undesirable, this is not a universal truth, and many women appreciate and seek emotional depth and vulnerability in men.
- Online trends do not represent the views of the entire population, and there are many online communities and trends that support and encourage emotional expression in men.
- The idea that emotional openness is "girly" is based on outdated gender stereotypes, and there is a growing movement that challenges these norms and encourages emotional intelligence and expression as human traits, not tied to gender.
- The pressure for men to maintain a tough, unemotional façade is changing, and there is increasing recognition of the value of emotional health and expression in men's lives.
- While society's views are shifting, it's important to recognize that change is gradual and not uniform across all cultures and communities; some men may still find it significantly challenging to express vulnerability due to entrenched societal norms.
- Using celebrity examples like Kendrick Lamar can be inspiring, but it's also important to acknowledge that individuals without the same platform or support may face different challenges in embracing vulnerability.
- Reflecting on connections and sharing feelings is important, but it's also essential to recognize that individuals have different comfort levels and ways of expressing emotions, and not all men may be comfortable with deep emotional conversations.
- The encouragement to evolve friendships into deeper emotio ...
Actionables
- Start a personal journal to explore and express your emotions, using prompts that challenge traditional masculinity norms. Begin by writing about times you felt vulnerable and how you reacted. Reflect on what societal expectations may have influenced your response. Over time, this can help you become more comfortable with your emotions and recognize the value in sharing them.
- Create a "vulnerability pact" with a close friend where you both agree to share something personal each week. This could be a fear, a hope, or an emotional challenge you're facing. The act of regular sharing can strengthen your bond and create a safe space for emotional openness.
- Volun ...
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