In this episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, Tim Ferriss and Dr. Dominic D'Agostino explore the science and practical applications of ketosis. They discuss how ketosis affects mental performance, mood, and sleep patterns, while examining its potential role in treating various neurological and psychiatric conditions. The conversation covers successful implementation strategies for a ketogenic diet, including the role of intermittent fasting and optimal macronutrient ratios.
The experts delve into the concept of "metabolic memory" and explain how the body adapts to repeated periods of ketosis. They also evaluate the benefits and risks of exogenous ketone supplements, providing context for their use in different scenarios. From weight management to potential therapeutic applications in conditions like depression and neurodegenerative diseases, this discussion offers insights into ketosis's wide-ranging effects on physical and mental health.

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Tim Ferriss and Dominic D'Agostino discuss the wide-ranging benefits of ketosis, from cognitive enhancement to physical health improvements. Ferriss reports experiencing increased mental sharpness, mood stabilization, and reduced sleep needs while in ketosis. D'Agostino explains that ketosis elevates GABA, a calming neurotransmitter that reduces anxiety, and promotes weight loss through improved metabolic health.
The experts share key strategies for successfully implementing a ketogenic diet. They emphasize the importance of intermittent fasting to facilitate the transition into ketosis, with Ferriss noting that fasting for at least 16 hours depletes liver glycogen. D'Agostino introduces the concept of cycling between strict ketosis and "protein veggie" days to optimize body composition. For maintaining ketosis, they recommend keeping carbs under 20g daily, with moderate protein and high fat intake.
According to D'Agostino, ketosis shows promise in treating various neurological and psychiatric conditions, including depression, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia. He discusses its potential in preventing neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's by improving metabolism and reducing inflammation. Additionally, ketosis is being explored as an adjunct therapy for certain cancers, with D'Agostino noting its ability to enhance the immune response and potentially slow tumor growth.
While exogenous ketone supplements can quickly boost ketone levels, D'Agostino warns about potential risks, particularly with 1,3-butanediol formulations that can cause liver damage. He and Ferriss discuss ways to mitigate negative effects, such as combining ketones with MCT oil to prevent rapid spikes and crashes in ketone levels.
D'Agostino introduces the concept of "metabolic memory," suggesting that the body becomes more efficient at transitioning into ketosis with repeated exposure. He compares this to muscle memory and notes that the benefits of ketosis may extend beyond the active period of the diet, with some effects potentially lasting for months after returning to normal eating patterns.
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Ketosis not only assists in weight management but also enhances cognitive performance and mood stability, as discussed by experts like Tim Ferriss and Dominic D'Agostino.
Tim Ferriss talks about the mood-stabilizing and cognitive enhancement effects of ketosis, based on his personal experience. He notes an increase in mental sharpness, verbal acuity, and a faster ability to process thoughts. Furthermore, he has observed complete mood stabilization and reports feeling calm, stable, and sharp.
Dominic D'Agostino highlights ketosis's potential mental health benefits by explaining that being in a state of ketosis can lead to a quieter mind. He notes that ketosis elevates GABA, a calming neurotransmitter that helps reduce glutamate levels and anxiety. This effect on the brain is compared to the quieting effect produced by alcohol and benzodiazepines.
D'Agostino specifically mentions that ketosis elevates GABA, which reduces anxiety by stabilizing the brain. This shift in brain chemistry can have profound effects on a person's overall sense of well-being and mental clarity.
Ferriss has found that his sleep needs decrease while in ketosis; he requires only about six to six and a half hours of sleep instead of the usual eight to nine hours. He wakes up feeling alert and ready to start the day without the typical caffeine dependence or an hour-long "booting up" period.
Ferriss also shares that he does not experience the common afternoon energy dips associated with a carbohydrate-rich diet. He suggests his cognitive symptoms disappear within three to four days on a strict ketogenic diet, indicating enhanced cognitive functioning.
D'Agostino discusses weight loss as one ...
Benefits of Ketosis (Cognitive/Mental and Physical)
Tim Ferriss, Dominic D'Agostino, and other experts share strategies for transitioning to and optimizing a ketogenic diet, emphasizing the importance of fasting, macronutrient composition, and cycling ketosis with higher-carb periods.
Intermittent fasting is a powerful tool for transitioning into ketosis, as Tim Ferriss has found through his daily practice for the past six months. He mentions that fasting honed his [restricted term] sensitivity and metabolic health. According to Dr. Rhonda Patrick and Mark Matson's research, fasting for at least 16 hours depletes glycogen from the liver, leading to a metabolic switch and increased mental sharpness. Ferriss notes that, despite initial challenges like irritability and fogginess, his transition to a ketogenic diet was smooth, avoiding the typical "keto flu" symptoms.
D'Agostino explains that during a caloric deficit from fasting, blood ketone levels might appear low, while breath ketone levels may max out the meters, indicating high ketone disposal uptake into tissues.
Dominic D'Agostino introduces the concept of "protein veggie" days within a ketogenic diet by reducing fat intake and significantly increasing protein intake. This approach can boost fat loss and preserve muscle. After two days of protein veggie days with reduced fat, D'Agostino feels leaner, attributing the alteration in body composition to the body's trained fat metabolism from ketosis. He pairs higher protein intake with recovery from heavy workouts, and during these days, his calorie intake might be a little lower but focuses on vibrant vegetables.
To achieve and maintain strict ketosis, Ferriss aims for moderate protein and at least 50% of calories from fat, with carbohydrate intake limited to under 20 grams per day. He cautions that consuming protein in liquid form can cause a quick rise in amino acids, which could halt ketosis. Slowing the absorption process is key, and this can be achieved with meals high in fat, fi ...
Practical Strategies For Implementing a Ketogenic Diet
Ketosis, a metabolic state where the body burns fat for energy, is gaining attention for its potential therapeutic applications in various health conditions, including neurological disorders, neurodegenerative diseases, and certain cancers.
D'Agostino discusses the broad application of ketosis for metabolic psychiatry and points out its potential to help with major depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, anxiety disorders, and anorexia nervosa. The ketogenic diet has been recognized to quiet the brain and control seizures across various forms, making its anti-seizure effects promising for conditions like epilepsy, depression, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia.
After contracting Lyme disease and experiencing "pseudo dementia," Ferriss entered strict ketosis, resulting in the disappearance of cognitive symptoms within a few days. By maintaining nutritional ketosis for several weeks, Ferriss notes the complete remission of cognitive and joint pain symptoms.
D'Agostino discusses the impact of ketosis on age-related chronic diseases like Alzheimer's and indicates that ketosis affects biomarkers known to drive such diseases. He emphasizes the importance of [restricted term] and inflammation regulation and ensuring no deficiencies in vital nutrients, linking metabolic health to brain health, which can delay or prevent Alzheimer's.
Ferriss, with his family's history of neurodegenerative diseases, shows a personal interest in exploring the efficacy of a ketogenic diet to potentially delay something like Alzheimer's. D'Agostino endorses using a continuous glucose monitor for insights on food impacts, noting the benefits of beta-hydroxybutyrate for brain energy and blood flow, which can alleviate issues like vascular dementia.
D'Agostino mentions ketosis stimulates the adaptive immune response, which is significant for the body to target and neutralize foreign threats. This enhancement of the immune response is under research in conjunction with cancer therapies. Ferriss elaborates on the advantage of depriving glucose-sensitive cancers throug ...
Therapeutic Applications of Ketosis for Various Health Conditions
Exogenous ketone supplements, utilized by some athletes for rapid ketone level increases, raise concerns due to potential toxicities and poor tolerability.
The podcast discusses exogenous ketones like Keto Start, an exogenous ketone salt-based product. Tim Ferriss reveals he took Keto Start with MCT oil about an hour and a half ago, which is popular among certain athletic populations. Dominic D'Agostino’s ketone Mojo device measures D beta-hydroxybutyrate, and racemic salts contain both D and L forms, with the L form taking longer to metabolize and thus remaining in the blood longer.
D'Agostino warns about the toxic potential of 1,3-butanediol, found in some ketone esters he has patented. Chronic consumption of supplements containing 1,3-butanediol could cause liver damage, characterised by inflammation, sinusoidal dilation, and gaps in the liver. This is because 1,3-butanediol metabolizes to beta-hydroxybutyrate aldehyde via alcohol dehydrogenase and aldehyde dehydrogenase, producing harmful compounds like beta-hydroxybutyrate aldehyde. Despite normal transaminase levels in the blood, direct examination of livers showed necrosis, indicating that liver problems might not be reflected in common blood tests. Older individuals, especially those with diminished detoxification abilities, are particularly susceptible to the toxic effects of 1,3-butanediol.
D'Agostino raises concerns about the tolerability and pharmacokinetics of 1,3-butanediol-based exogenous ketones. Rapid ketone spikes and subsequent crashes caused by these supplements could halt endogenous ketone production, triggered by the substantial [restricted term] response. D'Agostino highlights the field is shifting away from 1,3-butanediol-based keytones because of these issues, including uncomfortable side effects such as gastrointestinal distress and "disaster pants." He observes that taking a significant amount of a ketone ester causes a quick ketone rise and drop within two hours, with a corresponding increase in [restricted term].
Ferriss experienced intestinal discomfort and a subjective feeling of tiredness with doses above 11 milliliters, suggesting some ketone supplements could be problematic. Dependency issues, abrupt cessation leading to withdrawal resembling alcohol withdrawal, increasing dizzy spells, and dependency have been documented with 1,3-butanediol consumption.
Pros and Cons of Exogenous Ketone Supplements
Ferriss and D'Agostino discuss the concept of metabolic memory and how it may contribute to the enduring effects of cycling in and out of ketosis for better health.
Dominic D'Agostino introduces the idea of a "metabolic memory," which may aid the transition back to fat-burning after periods off ketosis. He suggests that similar to muscle memory, there is a metabolic version that makes returning to ketosis easier and offers more benefits each time someone engages in ketosis. D'Agostino explains that staying in ketosis enhances metabolic flexibility and the efficiency of fatty acid oxidation enzymes. He likens it to muscle memory; once someone builds up capacity, regaining the ability is quicker the next time around if they take a break. Metabolic memory also involves changes in mitochondrial function and capacity, meaning that even after a break, these mitochondria can rapidly respond upon re-exposure to ketosis.
According to D'Agostino, by following a regimen that suggests a form of cycling—going on ketosis for several weeks and then taking a break—metabolic benefits can be maintained. He even references Dr. Valter Longo's research that indicates five days of fasting can impact cardiometabolic biomarkers for up to three months, hinting at the lasting effect of diet interventions.
Dominic D'Agostino indicates that the benefits derived from ketosis may last beyond the active period of the diet, with ongoing research clarifying these potential long-term impacts. The discussion about the fasting mimicking diet and its influence on cardiometabolic bioma ...
Metabolic Memory and Long-Term Effects of Ketosis
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