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#363 ‒ A new frontier in neurosurgery: restoring brain function with brain-computer interfaces, advancing glioblastoma care, and new hope for devastating brain diseases | Edward Chang, M.D.

By Peter Attia, MD

In this episode of The Peter Attia Drive, neurosurgeon Edward Chang traces the evolution of neurosurgery from its pioneers to modern practices. He explains how early innovators like Harvey Cushing and Wilder Penfield shaped the field through their work on pituitary tumors and brain mapping, while discussing how contemporary neurosurgery combines traditional techniques with advanced technologies like laser probes and focused ultrasound.

Chang details his research on brain-computer interfaces (BCIs) that help restore speech and movement in paralyzed patients, including clinical trials where patients communicate with 95% accuracy through surgically placed arrays. He outlines the future of neurosurgery, describing how the integration of computer science, electrical engineering, and genetic approaches could transform treatment for conditions like Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's through less invasive BCI systems and organoid technology.

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The Evolution of Neurosurgery and Its Key Pioneers

In this episode, Edward Chang explores the transformative journey of neurosurgery, highlighting two pioneering figures: Harvey Cushing and Wilder Penfield. Chang explains that Cushing, known as the father of modern neurosurgery, revolutionized the field through his exceptional surgical abilities and groundbreaking work on pituitary tumors. Penfield, working at the Montreal Neurological Institute, advanced our understanding of brain mapping and developed the concept of awake brain surgery.

Chang notes that while some techniques, like craniotomy, remain largely unchanged since Cushing's era, modern neurosurgery has evolved to embrace less invasive approaches using advanced technologies like laser probes and focused ultrasound.

Technical Aspects of Brain Surgery, Including Awake Procedures

Chang and Attia discuss how awake brain surgery is possible because the brain lacks pain receptors. During these procedures, patients are lightly sedated with medications like [restricted term], becoming fully conscious only when necessary for critical brain mapping. This mapping process, Chang explains, helps preserve essential functions like language and movement, even during extensive procedures like tumor removal or treating seizures.

Brain-Computer Interfaces For Restoring Speech and Movement

Chang's research focuses on brain-computer interface (BCI) systems that can interpret neural signals to restore speech and movement in paralyzed patients. His team uses electrocorticography (ECoG), placing sensors over specific brain regions to map neural activity. In clinical trials, they've achieved remarkable success, including helping a paralyzed patient communicate with 95% accuracy through a surgically placed array.

Potential of Brain-Computer Interfaces and Other Technologies

Chang's work demonstrates how BCIs might help treat various neurological conditions, including ALS and paralysis, by bypassing damaged motor pathways. The field is advancing through biocompatible brain implants, machine learning algorithms, and potential stem cell therapies, offering hope for conditions like Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's.

Future of Neurosurgery: Biological and Genetic Approaches

Looking ahead, Chang envisions neurosurgery becoming increasingly multidisciplinary, incorporating computer science, electrical engineering, and materials science. He anticipates less invasive BCI systems, advancements in organoid technology, and genetic approaches that could transform the treatment of neurological diseases. Chang emphasizes that artificial intelligence and machine learning will play crucial roles in developing these innovative solutions.

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  • You can foster a greater understanding of your brain health by using mobile apps designed to track cognitive function. These apps often include games and tasks that challenge memory, problem-solving, and language skills, which can provide a personal baseline for brain health that might be useful in discussions with healthcare professionals.
  • Enhance your safety and preparedness by enrolling in a first aid course that includes training on how to handle neurological emergencies. Knowing the signs of strokes, head injuries, and seizures, and understanding how to respond can be life-saving in critical situations and can provide valuable assistance to medical professionals.
  • Support neurological research by participating in citizen science projects that focus on brain health. These projects may involve completing surveys, playing online games that contribute to research, or even donating anonymized data from wearable devices that track sleep and activity patterns, contributing to the larger understanding of brain health and function.

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#363 ‒ A new frontier in neurosurgery: restoring brain function with brain-computer interfaces, advancing glioblastoma care, and new hope for devastating brain diseases | Edward Chang, M.D.

The Evolution of Neurosurgery and Its Key Pioneers

Edward Chang delves into the rich history and evolution of neurosurgery, highlighting the contributions of its pioneers, Harvey Cushing and Wilder Penfield, and the transformation of surgical techniques from highly invasive to minimally invasive procedures using advanced technologies.

Neurosurgery Transformed: 19th Century Pioneers Harvey Cushing & Wilder Penfield

Cushing: Father of Modern Neurosurgery and Brain Endocrine Pioneer

Edward Chang speaks glowingly of Harvey Cushing, marking him as a clear inflection point in the domains of medicine, neuroscience, and neurosurgery. Cushing, considered the father of modern neurosurgery, made profound contributions through his exceptional surgical abilities and observations. Beyond his surgical prowess, Cushing was an astute internist, being the first to diagnose pituitary tumors and their effects on the endocrine system. Chang acknowledges that Cushing's era introduced the brain's modern tools of craniotomy to access tumors.

Penfield's Epilepsy Surgery Advanced Brain Mapping, Revealing Motor and Sensory Organization

Wilder Penfield emerges as another titan in the field, renowned for his work at the Montreal Neurological Institute and his significant advancements in modern epilepsy surgery. Penfield's work popularized the homunculus—a depiction of the brain regions controlling each muscle in the body—and greatly enhanced the understanding of language. He was also a forerunner in developing the concept of awake brain surgery, which profoundly influenced Chang's own neurosurgical career.

Neurosurgery Evolution: From Invasive to Targeted With New Technologies

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  • You can foster a deeper appreciation for medical history by visiting a medical museum or exhibit focused on neurosurgery. Exploring artifacts, surgical tools, and interactive displays can give you a tangible sense of the advancements made since the times of Cushing and Penfield, enhancing your understanding of the field's evolution.
  • Encourage a local school or community center to host a brain health workshop, where professionals can discuss the importance of neurological care and the latest minimally invasive techniques. This can raise awareness about the progress in neurosurgery and the significance of early detection and treatment of brain-related conditions.
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#363 ‒ A new frontier in neurosurgery: restoring brain function with brain-computer interfaces, advancing glioblastoma care, and new hope for devastating brain diseases | Edward Chang, M.D.

Technical Aspects of Brain Surgery, Including Awake Procedures

Attia and Dr. Edward Chang delve into the intricacies of brain surgery, with a particular focus on surgeries where the patient is awake, enabled by the brain's lack of pain receptors.

Awake Brain Surgery Possible Due to Lack of Pain Receptors

The brain itself doesn’t have pain receptors, which enables the possibility of awake brain surgery. Pain receptors are present in nerves and the scalp, as well as throughout the body, but brain tissue is devoid of them. Sensitivities can exist around the blood vessels and the dura membrane on top of the brain, but these can be numbed, making surgery on the brain itself pain-free for the patient.

Awake Brain Surgery Patients Are Lightly Sedated, Allowing Critical Brain Function Mapping Without Damage

During an extensive conversation about awake brain surgery, Attia and Chang discuss that patients are lightly sedated with a much lower dose of sedation than that used for general anesthesia. A medication like [restricted term] is administered at a very light dosing and can be stopped when necessary, such as when the surgery requires the patient to be fully awake for critical function mapping of the brain.

Chang notes that patients are only awake for an hour or two during a surgery that could last several hours, primarily for brain mapping while fully conscious. This meticulous process allows surgeons to map and preserve crucial areas of the brain responsible for language or motor abilities while intermittently sedating the patient for comfort.

Surgeons Push Boundaries of Safe Resection, Preserving Patient's Language, Movement, Abilities

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  • You can enhance your cognitive flexibility by engaging in activities that require quick thinking and adaptation, such as playing strategy-based video games or learning a new language. These activities stimulate the brain's ability to reorganize itself, similar to how synaptic plasticity allows neurons to compensate for loss. For example, playing games like chess or Starcraft can improve your strategic thinking and adaptability, while learning a new language can enhance your problem-solving skills and memory.
  • Explore mindfulness meditation to potentially increase your brain's plasticity and improve your focus and emotional regulation. Regular meditation has been associated with changes in brain structure and function, which may reflect the brain's plasticity in action. By setting aside time each day to meditate, you could be supporting your brain's ability to adapt and reorganize, much like it does during significant neurological changes.
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Brain-Computer Interfaces For Restoring Speech and Movement

Edward Chang's research in the field of neural engineering aims to decode and interpret neural signals, potentially restoring speech and movement for paralyzed patients through brain-computer interface (BCI) systems.

Researchers Use BCIs to Decode Neural Activity and Control Devices for Restoring Communication and Motor Function in Paralyzed Patients

Chang's work bridges the operating room, the research lab, and the engineering bench. His focus is on using BCI systems for interpreting brain signals, which can then be used to move a computer cursor or restore speech for someone who's paralyzed and cannot talk.

BCI Systems Use Non-Invasive Scalp EEG or Invasive Brain Surface Electrodes (ECoG)

Edward Chang acknowledges that the restoration of function in conditions like paralysis hasn't been possible until recently due to advancements in brain-computer interfaces (BCI). The use of electrocorticography (ECoG), where sensors are placed over the speech area, allows dense sampling across that region, and is leveraged to restore communication for paralyzed patients like a patient named Anne, who communicates through devices tracking her eye movements.

Chang and his team have spent over a decade using methods like ECoG to map the "mini-homunculus" in the brain that corresponds to parts of the vocal tract. Their research has identified neural signals for every consonant and vowel in English, which they've used to help restore communication for Anne, who could vocalize a little but was otherwise unintelligible.

Mapping Neural Representations Enables BCI to Convert Signals Into Text or Control Devices

Chang's clinical trial involves a surgically placed array connected via a port anchored to the skull to decode brain activity. The BCI decodes brain signals for a woman trying to speak but cannot because her lips, jaw, and larynx are paralyzed, rendering her unintelligible. In an experiment, they could decode words and display them as text with about 95% accuracy after a week of testing.

The discussion includes decoding brain activity associated with the volitional intent to speak, rather than inner monologues or reading. The patient's intent to speak sentences displayed on a screen is critical for training the BCI decoder. Initially, the system mapped brain signals to a simple vocabulary of 27 words translated into text with about 50% accuracy a ...

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  • The efficacy and accuracy of BCI systems, while promising, may vary significantly among individuals due to differences in brain anatomy and the nature of their conditions.
  • Non-invasive BCIs, such as those using scalp EEG, often have lower resolution and may not provide the same level of control as invasive methods like ECoG, potentially limiting their effectiveness.
  • The invasive nature of ECoG and other BCI systems raises concerns about the risk of infection, rejection, and long-term biocompatibility of implanted devices.
  • The long-term reliability of BCI systems is still largely unproven, as most research, including Chang's, involves short-term studies or clinical trials.
  • The high accuracy rates reported in controlled settings may not translate to real-world environments where signal noise and the complexity of natural language can pose significant challenges.
  • The focus on decoding signals for English consonants and vowels may not be directly applicable to speakers of other languages with different phonetic structures.
  • The ethical implications of BCIs, particularly regarding privacy and autonomy, are complex and require careful consideration as ...

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  • You can support the advancement of BCI technology by participating in online simulations that mimic BCI tasks. Look for websites or mobile apps that offer brain-training games designed to simulate BCI interfaces. By engaging with these platforms, you contribute to the collective understanding of how individuals interact with computer systems using brain activity, which can indirectly support the development of more intuitive BCI systems.
  • Consider donating to research funds or foundations that focus on neurological disorders and BCI development. Your financial contribution can help fuel the research necessary to refine BCI technologies, making them more accessible and effective for individuals with paralysis. Look for reputable organizations that fund projects similar to Edward Chang's work and ensure your donation is earmarked for BCI research.
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#363 ‒ A new frontier in neurosurgery: restoring brain function with brain-computer interfaces, advancing glioblastoma care, and new hope for devastating brain diseases | Edward Chang, M.D.

Potential of Brain-Computer Interfaces and Other Technologies For Treating Neurological Conditions

Recent discussion with experts, like Edward Chang and Peter Attia, reveals the growing potential for brain-computer interfaces (BCIs) and other technologies to provide novel treatments for neurological conditions.

Brain-Computer Interfaces Offer Hope For Restoring Function in Paralysis, ALS, and Parkinson's Disease

Chang’s work illustrates the possibility of using BCIs to treat patients with paralysis due to neurodegenerative conditions such as ALS, where damaged motor pathways prevent speech.

BCI Systems Might Bypass Damaged Motor Pathways to Restore Muscle Control For ALS and Spinal Injury Patients

Chang’s team has shown how BCI technology, specifically ECoG sensors implanted on a patient’s brain, might bypass damaged motor pathways and restore communication abilities. This suggests potential for BCIs to address conditions resulting in paralysis, like ALS and spinal cord injuries.

Advances in Neural Engineering, Including Biocompatible Brain Implants and Machine Learning Algorithms, May Transform Parkinson's and Glioblastoma Into Manageable, Chronic Illnesses

Advances in fields like material science could lead to biocompatible brain implants, and genetic understanding may custom-treat glioblastoma. Though Chang does not expressly mention the role of machine learning algorithms for Parkinson's or glioblastoma, the implication is that such advances, like ECoG implants and immunotherapies, are on the horizon, offering hope for managing these illnesses.

Stem Cell and Gene Therapies Targeting Neurodegeneration Mechanisms Could Treat Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and Cognit ...

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  • Biocompatible brain implants are devices designed to be compatible with the brain's natural environment, minimizing the risk of rejection or adverse reactions. These implants are made from materials that are well-tolerated by brain tissue and do not trigger immune responses. They are crucial for applications like brain-computer interfaces and neural prosthetics, enabling safe and effective interaction with the brain for therapeutic or research purposes.
  • Dopaminergic neurons are a type of nerve cell in the brain that produce and release dopamine, a neurotransmitter involved in various functions like movement, cognition, and reward processing. Dysfunction in specific dopaminergic pathways can contribute to conditions like Parkinson's disease, ADHD, addiction, and restless legs syndrome. These neurons play a crucial role in regulating mood, motivation, and motor control within the brain. Dopaminergic pathways are essential for maintaining proper brain function and are targeted in various treatments for neurological and psychiatric disorders.
  • Dyskinesias are involuntary movements th ...

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  • While BCIs show promise, there are significant ethical and privacy concerns related to the implantation of devices in the brain and the potential for data misuse.
  • The long-term effects and safety of BCIs and other neural implants are not yet fully understood, and there may be unforeseen complications or risks.
  • The cost and accessibility of these advanced treatments may limit their availability to a broader population, potentially exacerbating healthcare inequalities.
  • The effectiveness of BCIs and other technologies may vary greatly among individuals due to the complexity of neurological conditions and the brain's individual variability.
  • There is a risk of over-reliance on technological solutions, which may overshadow the importance of holistic approaches to health and the potential benefits of rehabilitation and therapy.
  • Stem cell and gene therapies are still in the experimental stages for many conditions, and there is no guarantee that they will become viable treatments for the majority of patients.
  • The idea of managing conditions like glioblastoma as chronic illnesses may be overly optimistic given the aggressive nature of such diseases and the current limitations of treatments.
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#363 ‒ A new frontier in neurosurgery: restoring brain function with brain-computer interfaces, advancing glioblastoma care, and new hope for devastating brain diseases | Edward Chang, M.D.

Future of Neurosurgery: Biological and Genetic Approaches

Dr. Edward Chang offers insights into the rapidly evolving field of neurosurgery, shedding light on the shift towards biological and genetic solutions, less invasive procedures, and a multidisciplinary approach.

Neurosurgery Shifts to Less Invasive and More Biological/Genetic Solutions

Neurosurgeons Focus On Brain Circuitry for New Therapies

Chang discusses new therapies focusing on brain circuitry and how this understanding could lead to treating diseases like glioblastoma as a chronic condition rather than a terminal one. For instance, he describes dissociation syndrome, which results from seizures rapidly spreading across the brain and indicates a need to control brain cell synchrony. Historically, the corpus callosomnium procedure disconnects brain hemispheres to stop seizure propagation, showing the emphasis on modifying brain circuitry to tackle such conditions.

Organoid Tech, Neural Engineering, and Gene Therapy May Regenerate Damaged Brain Tissue and Modulate Neural Function, Potentially Transforming Intractable Neurological Disease Treatment

Chang envisions a future where neurosurgery involves high-bandwidth wireless connections to brain circuitry and less invasive brain-computer interfaces (BCIs). He anticipates that advancements in organoid technology and genetics will provide better models for diseases and new approaches for treatments such as Parkinson's. Additionally, in the context of organoid advancement within UCFS trials, combining BCI systems with organoid technology for neurological disease treatment is anticipated.

Future Neurosurgery: A Multidisciplinary Approach Integrating Computer Science, Electrical Engineering, and Materials Science for Innovative, Personalized Solutions

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  • The corpus callosomnium procedure is a surgical intervention that involves disconnecting the corpus callosum, a structure that connects the two hemispheres of the brain. This procedure is sometimes performed to treat conditions like severe epilepsy, where seizures originate in one hemisphere and spread to the other. By severing this connection, the spread of abnormal electrical activity between the hemispheres can be limited, potentially reducing the impact of seizures.
  • A brain-computer interface (BCI) is a direct communication link between the brain's electrical activity and an external device, like a computer or robotic limb. BCIs enable tasks such as controlling devices or communicating without the need for physical movement. They can range from non-invasive methods like EEG to more invasive approaches involving microelectrode arrays. BCIs have the potential to assist, augment, or repair human cognitive or sensory-motor functions.
  • Immunogenic treatments are therapies that can trigger an immune response in the body. This response can be beneficial, like in vaccines, or unwanted, leading to adverse effects in response to therapeutic agents. Predicting and managing immunogenicity is crucial in developing effective and safe treatments, especially in personalized medicine approaches.
  • "Enhancement-focused applications" in the context of neurosurgery refer to utilizing advanced techn ...

Counterarguments

  • While biological and genetic solutions are promising, they may not be suitable for all types of neurological conditions, and traditional surgical methods may still be necessary in some cases.
  • Treating diseases like glioblastoma as chronic conditions is an optimistic goal, but the complexity of brain tumors and their genetic variability may continue to pose significant challenges.
  • The focus on brain circuitry is important, but it may oversimplify the complexity of neurological disorders, which can also involve biochemical, structural, and systemic factors.
  • The corpus callosomnium procedure, while effective for seizures, is a drastic measure that can have significant side effects, and alternative treatments may be preferable.
  • Organoid technology and gene therapy hold great potential, but they are still in the experimental stages and may face regulatory, ethical, and technical hurdles before becoming widely available.
  • High-bandwidth wireless connections to brain circuitry and less invasive BCIs are still emerging technologies that may face challenges in terms of safety, efficacy, and patient acceptance.
  • The integration of multiple disciplines in neurosurgery is promising, but it also requires significant coordination and may face institutional and educational barriers.
  • The goal of creating the least immunogenic treatments is important, but there may be unforeseen complications with immune ...

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