In this episode of The Peter Attia Drive, Dr. Rachel Rubin and Attia explore women's reproductive health, focusing on the complex hormonal changes during menopause and the role of hormone replacement therapy (HRT). They examine the female reproductive cycle's physiology and discuss how hormone patterns shift during perimenopause and menopause, leading to various physical and cognitive symptoms.
The discussion delves into hormone therapy's benefits and risks, addressing common misconceptions stemming from past studies. Rubin and Attia cover different approaches to administering hormone therapies, including the often-overlooked role of testosterone in women's health. They explain how various hormone delivery methods affect treatment outcomes and describe how testosterone therapy can impact sexual health, mood, and other aspects of women's well-being during menopause.
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The female reproductive cycle involves complex hormonal patterns that govern ovulation and uterine preparation. During a normal menstrual cycle, estrogen levels rise leading to ovulation, followed by a progesterone surge in the luteal phase. Rubin explains that during perimenopause, these hormone patterns become erratic, with dramatic fluctuations in estrogen levels causing various symptoms including brain fog and mood changes. At menopause, the body ceases [restricted term] and progesterone production, while FSH and LH levels rise as the body attempts to stimulate the now-inactive ovaries.
Rubin and Attia discuss how hormone therapy offers significant benefits, including protection against osteoporosis, reduced colon cancer risk, and lower mortality rates. While the Women's Health Initiative (WHI) study raised concerns about hormone therapy risks, both experts emphasize that these risks vary significantly based on formulation, timing, and delivery method. Rubin particularly emphasizes that FDA-approved [restricted term] has strong evidence supporting its use in hormone therapy.
The WHI study's flawed design led to widespread misconceptions about hormone therapy. Attia explains that the study incorrectly generalized its findings to all forms of HRT without considering differences in formulation, dose, and delivery methods. According to Rubin, these misconceptions led to a dramatic reduction in HRT use, preventing many women from accessing its benefits and understanding its current safety profile.
Rubin advocates for an evidence-based, individualized approach to hormone therapy. She explains that progesterone is crucial for protecting the endometrial lining in women with a uterus, while topical and transdermal estrogen offers benefits with fewer adverse effects than oral administration. Additionally, Rubin describes how [restricted term] therapy can significantly improve sexual dysfunction, mood, and overall health in menopausal women.
Rubin emphasizes that [restricted term], often overlooked in women's health, naturally declines with age starting in the 30s. She notes that [restricted term] therapy can safely boost sexual health and mood in menopausal women, with patients reporting improvements in libido, mood, and even stress incontinence. Rubin recommends using small doses of generic [restricted term] gel, applied daily, as part of a comprehensive hormone therapy regimen.
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Understanding the intricate hormone patterns of the female reproductive cycle is crucial, from ovulation to uterine preparation, perimenopause, and eventual menopause.
At the start of the menstrual cycle, estrogen levels begin low and gradually rise, leading up to ovulation. The brain releases a hormone called luteinizing hormone (LH), around days 10 to 14 of the cycle, which serves as an indicator that it is time to ovulate. Following ovulation, the shell of the egg, known as the corpus luteum, produces a surge of progesterone. This begins the luteal phase, during which the presence of progesterone is notable. If fertilization does not occur, the corpus luteum dissolves, causing progesterone levels to drop and the uterine lining to shed, resulting in menstruation.
Rubin describes perimenopause as an erratic period when estrogen, progesterone, and [restricted term] are not produced consistently by the ovaries, thus leading to hormonal swings. The scarcity of hormones prompts the brain's follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) to over-stimulate the eggs, resulting in overshoots of hormone levels. For instance, a woman's estrogen level might dramatically escalate from 200 to 900 on the tenth day of her cycle, demonstrating the extreme fluctuations during perimenopause.
[restricted term] levels can be particularly volatile during perimenopause. With declining numbers of available eggs, the body struggles with regular functions, such as ovulating eggs, which can lead to not ovulating or releasing multiple eggs in one cycle. These fluctuations contribute to symptoms that may emerge due to excessively low or high levels of [restricted term] or from the sudden shifts between these extremes. Rubin likens the experience to a car lurching from speeding to suddenly running out of gas, leading to inflammation and irritation that resonate with perimenopausal symptoms.
Symptoms such as brain fog and newly diagnosed ADHD in women can be linked to estrogen receptors in the brain fluctuating from full to empty. It's during perimenopause that inconsistency becomes the norm, which is evident fr ...
Female Reproductive Cycle: Physiology and Hormonal Changes
Health professionals and researchers like Rubin and Attia delve into the nuances of hormone therapy, discussing its potential risks and benefits for women.
Rubin addresses the balance between the risks of taking hormone therapy and not taking it. She explains the bodily changes in the absence of hormones, particularly the risk of urinary tract infections, pelvic pain, and osteoporosis—with hip fractures being as deadly as breast cancer. The isolation of hormone therapy as a significant antidepressant is a unique perspective Rubin brings, emphasizing its impact on mental health.
She expresses frustration at the lack of knowledge among medical professionals regarding hormone therapy’s benefits, such as the prevention of colon cancer. Rubin argues for a versatile array of specialists to understand the impact of menopause on various organs. She sees hormone therapy as not only beneficial but essential, citing how it aids in preventing Alzheimer's, osteoporosis, and other conditions.
Attia reinforces Rubin’s view by outlining the increased risks of dementia, osteoporosis, cardiovascular disease, and colon cancer in the absence of hormones. With hormone therapy, there’s a decreased risk of colon cancer, fractures, and diabetes, and a decline in overall mortality and cancer-specific mortality. Estrogen therapy alone resulted in a lower risk of breast cancer.
Rubin highlights FDA-approved [restricted term] as evidentially supported for hormone therapy. She also points out that in the Women’s Health Initiative, those on estrogen had a lessened risk of breast cancer. When discussing surgical menopause, Rubin stresses the importance of hormone therapy in averting bone health and cardiovascular issues.
She further scrutinizes the WHI study's claim about the increased risk of breast cancer incidence with estrogen and progestin, questioning its validity and the placebo group's protection.
Criticism abounds over the misrepresentation of the WHI study findings and the understatement of hormone therapy ...
Hormone Therapy: Women's Health Risks and Benefits
Attia and Rubin critically analyze the controversies and misconceptions surrounding hormone replacement therapy (HRT), shedding light on the impact of misinformation and misguided studies.
The WHI study's flawed design substantially influenced public perception and medical practice around hormone therapy.
Attia speaks on the National Institutes of Health’s (NIH) Women's Health Initiative (WHI) which set out to provide solid evidence on HRT through a randomized control trial. However, pitfalls in its design led to misinformation. The study generalized its findings to all forms of HRT without considering differences in formulation, dose, and method of delivery. Rubin notes that the WHI study used a birth control pill style of therapy, unlike the [restricted term] and progesterone medications prescribed today. Attia expresses concern about how the study generalized the findings to all forms of HRT without considering these crucial differences.
Following the WHI study, Rubin and Attia note that the use of hormone therapy plummeted, affecting the industry severely and continuing for 30 years despite evolving understanding and safety evidence. Rubin indicates that the misinterpretation of the WHI study's findings led to a significant reduction in the use of HRT, blocking many from accessing the associated benefits and from understanding its safety. Attia discusses performing an analysis to estimate the lives lost and disabilities incurred due to the lack of HRT usage since the WHI study. Rubin confirms that many doctors receive minimal menopause education, and this failure to train doctors in hormone therapy has had significant repercussions.
Rubin points to discrepancies in the implementation of the WHI study's results concerning warnings on hormone products, implying that fears stemming from the study contributed to an overall decline in HRT use, blocking benefits and awareness of current safety evidence.
She reflects on the aftermath of the WHI study, which led to hormone therapy somewhat going underground, contributing to the emergence of compounded hormone therapies. Rubin's reference to the historical context implies that fears and misunderstandings from the WHI study influenced how HRT was perceived and practiced
Furthermore, Rubin sugg ...
Controversies and Misunderstandings of HRT History
The complexities of hormone therapy for women are coming to light as Rubin, a urologist, educates hormone doctors on prescribing practices.
Rubin emphasizes that hormone therapy should be brought back into the realm of evidence-based medicine. There's a debate on the use of lab tests to monitor hormone therapy. Rubin prefers avoiding excessive testing, although labs can clarify perimenopausal fluctuations. Attia focuses on symptoms and sees [restricted term] levels and FSH as markers for therapy. Rubin also agrees with a symptom-focused approach, advocating for an individualized therapy, whether it be an estrogen gel or patch.
Rubin expresses caution about hormone therapy practices. Red flags include being pushed towards expensive products or being sold on "special" compounded products that claim to be safer and more effective. Moreover, the pellet industry for women lacks an FDA-approved product, raising safety and efficacy concerns.
Attia notes that in the history of hormone replacement therapy (HRT), estrogen alone increased the risk of endometrial cancer. Rubin follows up by emphasizing the role of progesterone in protecting the endometrial lining for those with a uterus. Micronized progesterone is typically administered orally but can also be delivered vaginally to avoid sedative side effects. Daily administration can aid sleep and anxiety reduction, and depending on the estrogen dose, the starting dose of progesterone might be 100 milligrams, with some suggesting 200 milligrams might be necessary.
The conversation shifts towards systemic estrogen vs. local hormones. Rubin differentiates between systemic estrogen for whole-body treatment and local vaginal hormones for genital and urinary symptoms of menopause, which she claims to be safe for every individual, including elderly patients at risk of urinary tract infections.
Oral estrogen is currently less used, and Rubin explains that sublingual estrogen reduces risks by avoiding first-pass metabolism. Patch adherence issues, as well as the convenience of gel applications, are discussed, offering flexibility in administration. Rubin further explains that local applications of estrogen, like the E string for genitourinary symp ...
Administering Hormone Therapies For Women
Rachel Rubin suggests that there is a significant yet neglected role of [restricted term] in women’s health, especially during menopause.
Rubin points out that contrary to popular belief, [restricted term] is important for women and declines with age, starting in the 30s. While the prescribing of [restricted term] for men is often off-label and widely accepted, and the FDA has recently updated their stance on [restricted term] therapy for men, stating it's no longer a cardiovascular disease risk, similar considerations are often overlooked for women. It's implied that there is a decline in [restricted term] as women age, which leads to various health issues.
Rubin highlights the overlooked importance of [restricted term] in menopausal hormone therapy by noting its absence in the typical hormonal curve diagram depicting women's menstrual cycle. Given [restricted term]’s peak around ovulation, she debunks the misconception that regularly menstruating women can't have hormone problems, pointing out that this overlooks [restricted term]’s role.
She explains that vaginal hormones such as estrogen, which have receptors in the brain, are linked to the common symptom of brain fog during perimenopause. Moreover, she suggests that vaginal DHEA, which helps produce both estrogen and androgens, can have a substantial impact, decreasing the risk of UTIs by more than half. Rubin also indicates that symptoms like brain fog can be mitigated by adding some estrogen to keep the receptors satisfied.
Rubin endorses [restricted term] for its beneficial effects on sexual health in menopausal women. She states that guidelines recommend using FDA-approved [restricted term] for men, appropriately dosed for females, for women’s sexual health. Rubin suggests that an addition of topical [restricted term] to hormone therapy can be transformative for menopausal women, alleviating interstitial cystitis and sexual dysfunction.
She also describes a compounded product using [restricted term] to treat vulvar vestibule issues that cause pain during sex, urinary symptoms, and pelvic pain, and refers to global consensus that [restricted term] therapy works for low libido in post-menopausal women. Patients have reported effects such as increased libido, eas ...
The Overlooked Role of Testosterone in Women's Health
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