#2505 - Tom Segura

Tom Segura’s Netflix series "Bad Things" stands out as a singular vision brought to life with audacious comedic freedom, thanks to Netflix’s willingness to take risks and empower creators. Joe Rogan and Segura celebrate the show’s irreverence, originality, and collaborative spirit, which has garnered both acclaim and controversy.

Irreverent Format and Netflix's Risk-Taking

Netflix Empowers Comedians to Create Unconventional Content

Both Segura and Rogan emphasize that "Bad Things" is a direct result of Netflix giving Segura unprecedented creative freedom. Segura describes the experience as one where there were no restraints and the network encouraged him to "do whatever you want to do." Rogan points out that few, if any, other platforms would have allowed such an unfiltered vision, highlighting Netflix’s willingness to back truly original and risky comedic projects. “You couldn’t do it anywhere but Netflix,” Rogan observes, with Segura agreeing this was the only place his audacious scenarios could exist.

Boundary-Pushing Absurdist Dark Comedy in Unacceptable Scenarios

"Bad Things" is built upon an irreverent, boundary-pushing format. Rogan describes the show as “so preposterous, so irreverent,” filled with “absurdist dark comedy” where Segura puts himself and others in scenarios that would be unacceptable on other networks. Rogan singles out the first scene of the first episode as something that “there’s not a chance in hell” anyone else would air. The “slave one,” as Segura references, is highlighted for looking as cinematic as an Oscar-winning film while being outrageously out-of-bounds in subject matter. Segura and Rogan agree that the show is wholly original, going places and doing things nobody else would dare.

Actors Boycott Show Over Controversial Content Concerns

The show’s willingness to tackle taboo and provocative topics has even led to backlash from some in the industry. Segura recounts that actors and agents refused to participate, with one actor calling the offer “dangerous to put out in the world.” Some saw the material as genuinely offensive and even threatened to campaign against its production, highlighting the extremes of controversy the show has stirred among potential collaborators.

The Collaborative Production Process Behind the Series

Creative Team, With Director of Photography and Writers, Ensures Outrageous Scenarios Are Executed With High Production Value and Cinematic Quality

Segura emphasizes that although the series is driven by his comedic mind, it is made possible by a highly skilled and dedicated team. He singles out his director of photography, Nico Wiesnett, for making episodes look “like a fucking movie,” ensuring segments like the “slave one” achieve an unexpectedly high cinematic quality. Writers and a talented cast—including Kirk Fox, Frankie Quinones, Martha Kelly, and others—help bring Segura’s outrageous scenarios to life with authenticity and flair.

A Dedicated Team Transforms Solo Work Into a Collaborative and Fulfilling Endeavor

For Segura, a standup comedian accustomed to solo performance, working with a team has transformed his creative process. He finds the collaborative nature of scripted comedy “such a fun thing,” noting the satisfaction of developing material in the writers’ room and working with actors and crew on set. This spirit of collaboration is apparent in the complexity of the episodes and the execution of high-concept ideas.

Production Involves Workshopping Material, as Shown by Tom's Preparation for Complex Physical Comedy Like Dance Numbe ...

Uday Hussein, Saddam Hussein’s eldest son, stands out in modern history for his unparalleled sadism, personal cruelty, and impunity. His reign of terror in Iraq represents the extreme capacity for human evil, not merely for political ends but for personal gratification.

Uday Hussein's Documented Pattern of Sadistic Brutality

Uday Hussein Tortured Athletes as Iraq's Olympic Committee Chair, Using Methods Like Kicking Concrete Balls and Sewage Dunking

As Iraq’s Olympic Committee Chair, Uday Hussein wielded his power with unrivaled cruelty. He tortured athletes who failed to win or perform to his standards. Methods included forcing footballers to repeatedly kick a concrete soccer ball, dragging them through gravel pits, and immersing them in sewage tanks to worsen their wounds with infection. Recalcitrant athletes were flogged for up to three days, and Uday was known to use Iron Maidens as torture devices.

Documented Practice Of Killing Guests For Trivial Reasons, With Accounts Suggesting 200 Died Annually

Uday’s violence extended far beyond athletes. Parties he hosted were infamous for deadly outcomes—reports estimate at least 200 people died at his parties each year. He killed guests over trivial infractions, such as a chef over-salting food or a partygoer not laughing hard enough at his joke. At one event, he beat and shot a man in front of Egypt’s president. He also shot his uncle in a fit of rage at a family gathering, injuring him and killing six bystanders in the process.

Uday's Cruelty: Cutting a Guard's Ear, Torching a Face, Forcing Toxic "Cups of Friendship," Using a Monkey to Attack Guests

Other accounts describe Uday mutilating his staff, such as lopping off a guard’s ear and using a welder’s torch on his face. He forced partygoers and entertainers to drink a toxic "cup of friendship," sometimes containing up to 90% alcohol or drugs, with refusal met by various punishments. Uday kept a monkey, Louisa, who drank whiskey and attacked guests who fell asleep. Guests at his boat club who passed out would be thrown into the cage with Louisa for amusement. Uday often ordered his kill squads to commit atrocities and record them for his own entertainment.

Fear of Uday permeated Iraqi society—bystanders in public steered clear, aware that a minor annoyance such as a traffic jam could result in someone being beaten with a hammer. He terrorized women by abducting and sexually assaulting them, sometimes feeding victims to dogs or throwing them off rooftops.

The Origins and Context of Uday's Extreme Pathology

Rejected by Mother at Birth, Uday's Trauma Fueled Violent Tendencies

Uday’s violence reportedly began in childhood. His mother rejected him at birth, believing him to be a “devil child,” which compounded existing familial trauma—his father died before he was born. This early rejection and trauma are cited as a familiar pattern seen in the histories of extremely violent adults.

Impunity: Unlimited Resources, Private Militias, No Legal Consequences

From his teenage years, Uday knew only power without restraint. He and his siblings grew up with “unlimited funds, unlimited access, and no repercussions.” He had private militias and kill squads at his disposal, living in a context of absolute impunity. Uday’s access to modern weaponry, cars, and the machinery of dictatorship allowed his cruelty to be enacted on a scale rarely seen.

Sadistic Pathology Fueled by Rejection, Neglect, Power, and Weapon Access in Modern Context

The combination of early rejection, neglect, and unchecked power fostered a uniquely sadistic pat ...

Joe Rogan and Tom Segura discuss the advances in artificial intelligence (AI) and how they are profoundly reshaping cultural, economic, and philosophical realities. Their conversation highlights how AI’s rapid development is complicating authenticity in media, provoking anxiety among younger generations about their economic futures, and raising deeper questions about AI’s place in society and its intrinsic motivations.

Rapid Development and Deceptive Capabilities of Ai Technology

AI-generated content is becoming highly convincing, making it harder to distinguish between what is real and what is fabricated. Segura observes that while early AI-generated media was easier to spot, improvements have made recent examples far more deceptive. Rogan cites war footage circulating online that is actually created from video games, and both hosts admit they themselves have been tricked by how real AI-generated images and videos look.

Ai Generates Convincing Fake Imagery and Video Content, Increasingly Difficult to Distinguish From Authentic Material

The hosts discuss the escalation in the quality of AI-generated fake content, both in imagery and in video. Rogan admits that he now has to consciously question the authenticity of online footage because of AI’s capabilities, a shift in mindset that’s now necessary as fakes become more realistic.

Ai Personalities Earn Revenue On Onlyfans, With Teams Managing Subscriber Interactions Believed to Be Real

Rogan describes how AI technology has been utilized on platforms like OnlyFans, where entirely fake “AI girls” are earning substantial revenue—sometimes $289,000 a month, or even up to $27 million a year. Teams of people run these AI accounts, interacting with subscribers who often believe they are speaking with real women. This business model blurs the line between authentic and synthetic online interaction and demonstrates how easily audiences can be misled.

Advancing ai Complicates Authenticity Verification

The increasingly natural and nuanced capabilities of AI make it harder for people to differentiate between genuine human behavior and algorithmically generated responses. Rogan notes that there are AI accounts on X (Twitter) that, while sometimes betraying their origins through formulaic writing, are often convincing enough to fool unsuspecting users. Segura shares that even public critics of AI often use it themselves to automate responses, further complicating authenticity.

The Generational Anxiety Surrounding Ai's Economic Implications

AI’s rapid evolution is not just a technical issue; it’s also causing acute economic anxiety, especially among young people at the start of their careers. Rogan points out that commencement speeches mentioning AI often meet with boos, as graduating students worry about their futures.

Ai Sparks Career Anxiety Among Young Graduates

Young graduates fear that AI will replace many established careers. Rogan notes the existential fear in college graduates, as even their professors can’t promise that fields like law or coding will still be secure in five years.

Educational Debt Risks: Obsolete Fields Before Career Establishment

This uncertainty is compounded by the risk of educational debt. Rogan explains that students invest heavily in college—sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars—on the promise of future stability and upward mobility. But now, AI’s threat to the job market means graduates could be saddled with debt but find their skills obsolete before their careers even start.

Ai Disrupts Educational Investment's Role in Career Security and Financial Stability

Traditionally, college tuition was justified as an investment in one’s future career and financial stability. Now, as Segura and Rogan note, skyrocketing tuition at even mid-tier universities, matched with a labor market transformed by AI, threatens to upend this long-standing model. Students might become trapped by the only debt that can’t be erased by bankruptcy, with no guarantee of future employment to pay ...

The conversation among Joe Rogan, Tom Segura, and others highlights a range of deep-rooted corruption and systemic failures in American government and law enforcement, touching on issues from police quotas and prosecutorial misconduct to FBI entrapment and congressional insider trading.

Law Enforcement Revenue Generation Through Quotas

Joe Rogan and Tom Segura discuss how police quotas incentivize unjust traffic stops, emphasizing that officers frequently pull people over for minor or dubious infractions such as “not using a blinker” or crossing a white line. Rogan recounts experiences where officers used pretexts like “smelling liquor” or accusing a driver of attempting to evade, even when no such evidence exists. He suggests that these stops are often not motivated by genuine safety concerns but by the officers' need to meet departmental quotas.

They argue that officers’ careers depend on making arrests and issuing citations, which in turn generates significant revenue for municipalities. Tom Segura points out that if one type of covered behavior became immune to citation, the system would simply criminalize or target other behaviors to maintain revenue streams. Rogan concludes that police, who are supposed to "serve and protect," are instead operating as "glorified revenue collectors," creating a profound conflict of interest where monetary incentives can override public safety.

Prosecutorial Misconduct and the Wrongful Conviction Problem

Rogan also elaborates on the parallel systemic issue of prosecutorial misconduct. He references work with Josh Dubin on wrongful convictions and reveals how many prosecutors manipulate evidence, withhold exculpatory information, and vigorously pursue convictions, even amid doubt about a defendant’s guilt. These actions are driven by career incentives—promotions and prestige are tied to high conviction rates.

Patterns of behavior across prosecutorial offices have shown a prioritization of winning over uncovering the truth. The system’s inherent pressure distorts justice, resulting in a history of wrongful convictions where the focus is on boosting records rather than upholding fairness and accurate outcomes.

The Infiltration and Entrapment Problem in Law Enforcement

Joe Rogan addresses the issue of law enforcement and federal agencies, including the FBI, using informants and undercover agents to manufacture or provoke crimes that might otherwise never occur. As evidence, he cites the case of a 19-year-old in Dallas who was radicalized and lured into attempting to detonate a fake bomb provided by federal agents, leading to his arrest for a plot orchestrated by the authorities themselves.

A more striking example is the plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Rogan notes that out of the 14 people involved in the conspiracy, 12 were FBI informants, strongly suggesting that the FBI was not only infiltrating but largely dominating and instigating the alleged scheme. This pattern, in both January 6 and other security cases, raises concerns about government-manufactured crimes and the blurred line between thwarting crime and creating it.

Congressional Insider Trading and Political Corr ...

Ecological Crisis of Wild Pig Overpopulation in Texas

Texas faces an ecological crisis due to an explosive wild pig population. Joe Rogan cites figures estimating between 2.6 and 4 million wild pigs within the state, a number that escalates every month. These pigs reproduce prolifically—each sow can produce up to three litters a year, with as many as six piglets per litter, and can start breeding at just six months old. The sheer number of wild pigs results in significant agricultural and environmental damage, as they destroy crops, compete with native wildlife, and disrupt local ecosystems. Because the wild pig population is uncontrollable and poses such a large threat, Texas allows year-round, unrestricted hunting. Hunters can shoot pigs during the day or night, often utilizing night vision equipment, and regulations even permit shooting pigs from helicopters.

Hunting, Cooking, and Environmental Stewardship Integration

Rogan highlights the integration of hunting, cooking, and environmental stewardship, using his friend Jesse Griffiths as a prime example. Griffiths owns Dai Due restaurant, which specializes in Texas wild game cuisine, including wild boar dishes and exotics like nilgai. Beyond his restaurant, Griffiths offers a cooking school where he teaches all stages of the process—from hunting and gun safety to butchering and cooking the animal. These small group classes guide participants through the full cycle, even for those with no prior shooting experience. This approach connects hunters to their food and emphasizes ethical food acquisition. Rogan praises the superior flavor and quality of wild pig meat, noting that wild boar offers a darker, richer meat than domestic pork. Proper cooking is vital due to potential parasites like trichinosis, but with careful preparation—especially if the pigs’ diets include acorns or other quality forage—the taste can be exceptional, such as slow-smoked ham prepared over a Traeger grill.

Wild pig hunting acts as both pest control and a form of environmental stewardship, since hunters help to stabilize an otherwise destructive population while sourcing ethical, high-quality meat directly from the land.

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