In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Scott Horton presents a critical analysis of U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, arguing that decades of military interventions have produced outcomes contrary to stated strategic goals. Horton examines how American military presence across the Persian Gulf has failed to contain Iran, instead empowering it as a regional power, while trillions in defense spending have benefited contractors at the expense of ordinary Americans. He traces the influence of neoconservative doctrine and Israeli pressure on U.S. policy decisions, particularly regarding Iran's nuclear program and military strikes.
The conversation also explores the Ukraine conflict through the lens of NATO expansion and broken post-Cold War promises to Russia. Horton discusses how regime change operations and strategic encirclement have provoked predictable responses while serving broader geopolitical aims. Throughout the episode, he challenges prevailing narratives about American security interests and questions the motivations behind sustained military commitments that continue despite strategic failures.

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Scott Horton delivers a scathing critique of America's decades-long military presence in the Middle East, arguing that massive investments and aggressive interventions have backfired, empowering adversaries like Iran while endangering ordinary Americans.
Horton contends that despite maintaining over 100,000 troops in Iraq, 50,000 in Afghanistan, and tens of thousands more across Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, and Oman, America's massive military footprint has been rendered strategically bankrupt. He describes how Iran's recent missile strikes hit 18 bases from Irbil to Muscat, destroying radar stations, damaging runways, refueling tankers, and AWACS planes, effectively leaving U.S. forces and regional allies exposed with critical infrastructure offline. Reports with satellite imagery published by major outlets demonstrate Iran's capabilities, leading Qatar to negotiate with Iran and bar U.S. sorties from its bases.
For two decades, Horton has warned that Iran could reach all U.S. military installations and a trillion dollars' worth of economic targets across the Gulf. The latest strikes proved this capacity, shattering the illusion of American air and naval dominance. Trillions spent on the "War on Terror" have not contained Iran, which has instead consolidated and expanded its influence, especially after Bush's and Obama's policies in Baghdad and Syria.
Horton argues that when the U.S. struck first in 2025, these attacks backfired spectacularly. While possibly degrading Iran's nuclear deterrent, the strikes eliminated vital U.S. leverage against Iran's weaponization ambitions and established Iran as the dominant regional power—the very outcome decades of containment strategy sought to prevent. One immediate consequence was the Austin terror attack, where an Iranian sympathizer killed three and injured 15—a stark example of "backdraft terrorism," the direct, violent blowback from overt U.S. policy decisions.
Horton suggests a fundamental error in U.S. grand strategy: assuming indefinite dominance through bases and advanced weapons while underestimating both the ability of regional actors to undermine these positions and the immense costs of doing so. He denounces the self-serving incentives that sustain such failed policies—military actions benefit defense contractors and energy companies, but leave ordinary Americans bearing the burden through government spending, casualties, and increased risk of terrorism. Drawing a parallel to the Cold War, Horton criticizes Washington's hypocrisy in justifying global military build-ups while condemning similar expansions by adversaries, driven by domestic priorities of ruling elites rather than coherent, long-term strategic thought.
Neoconservatism, particularly through the Wolfowitz Doctrine, has profoundly shaped U.S. foreign policy for decades, driving a program of military expansion and interventionism with lasting, destabilizing consequences.
In the aftermath of the first Gulf War, Paul Wolfowitz authored the Defense Planning Guidance with other neoconservatives. This document, later known as the Wolfowitz Doctrine, declared that America must maintain dominance on every continent and would not tolerate the rise of any rival power. The doctrine articulated that the U.S. would reject any challenge to its supremacy, aiming for a level of military dominance that was ultimately unsustainable. When the initial draft was leaked, it became a scandal due to its blunt language advocating American unilateralism. While rewritten with softer language, the underlying commitment endured and was operationalized through NATO expansion, Middle East interventions, and proxy force support.
Key figures such as Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Stephen Cambone, Scooter Libby, David Wurmser, Elliott Abrams, and Stephen Hadley occupied major positions across the Pentagon, State Department, Vice President's office, and National Security Council. Many cycled between government roles and think tanks, sustaining influence regardless of which political party held power. These officials shaped policy by fostering consensus for war through control of narratives, media coordination, and networks with defense contractors. A core tenet was support for Israeli regional dominance and unwavering belief in American hegemony.
The neoconservative doctrine underpinned the campaign for the Iraq War, justified by deeply flawed theories. Policy documents predicted that removing Saddam Hussein would allow Sunni Arab kingdoms like Jordan and Turkey to dominate Iraq, despite Iraq's Shiite majority and deep religious and historical ties to Iran. Further papers anticipated that Iraq and Syria would fragment into smaller, weaker tribes without strongmen—advocating for instability over stable governance. In reality, the invasion led to a Shiite-led Iraq increasingly aligned with Iran, strengthening Tehran's hand and undermining U.S. and Israeli strategic interests.
Despite the failures, costly interventions persisted. The Iraq War cost at least five to seven trillion dollars, enriching defense contractors while taxpayers and military families bore the brunt. Horton and Joe Rogan argue that wars continue partly due to the lucrative business case for contractors and energy interests. Whether stemming from incompetence or cynical intent, the result is the same: massive expenditure, military casualties, regional instability, and the empowerment of previously contained adversaries.
U.S. policy in the Middle East, particularly regarding Iran, is shaped by persistent and forceful Israeli influence, especially under Benjamin Netanyahu, operating through diplomatic pressure, narrative control, and personal flattery.
Horton recounts that Netanyahu persuaded Trump that attacking Iran would be swift and decisive, assuring him the strike would topple the Iranian government quickly, downplaying Iran's significant missile arsenal and the likely extended conflict anticipated by U.S. military analysts. Netanyahu employed extensive flattery, comparing Trump to Franklin Roosevelt, George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln, framing the prospect of a decisive Iranian strike as an opportunity for Trump to become a "world historical figure" with a guaranteed "place in heaven." This messaging targeted Trump's desire for historical greatness, overcoming his noted skepticism about new Middle Eastern wars. Netanyahu's pitch sidestepped the technical realities of Iran's hardened facilities and significant missile defenses, ignoring U.S. intelligence that predicted any conflict could quickly escalate and imperil U.S. bases across the region.
Rogan and Horton discuss how Vice President J.D. Vance, a noted skeptic of war with Iran, was absent from the meeting in which Netanyahu made his case to Trump. Vance was tied up with official visits to Azerbaijan and Armenia, making his attendance impossible. The meeting was arranged hastily and kept small to guard against leaks and ensure primarily military action proponents were present. While advisers warned Trump not to wholly trust Netanyahu's promises, there was no outright opposition to the plan.
Horton describes instances where Netanyahu used intelligence and surveillance as leverage, including pressuring Bill Clinton by referencing the Monica Lewinsky scandal in the context of lobbying for Jonathan Pollard's release. Policy decisions are further skewed by the confluence of Israeli interests, powerful defense contractors, and factions within the American government—individuals and groups benefit while costs are borne by American society at large. This pressure campaign extends back to Harry Truman, who faced financial incentives, electoral support, and even alleged letter bombs from Zionist groups to secure formal U.S. recognition of Israel.
Horton underscores that for decades, Israeli claims that Iran is always "just a year away" from nuclear weapons have repeatedly set the tone for American policy debates. The American media routinely treats Israeli government statements and narratives as definitive, portraying Israeli security needs as synonymous with American security, even though Iran poses no direct or imminent threat to the U.S. mainland. This powerful narrative has enabled Israeli leaders, especially Netanyahu, to wield disproportionate influence over the formation and execution of U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.
Scott Horton and Joe Rogan discuss the roots of the Ukraine conflict, focusing on broken promises, NATO expansion, regime change operations, and broader geopolitical motivations driving American policy in Eastern Europe.
Horton recounts that after the Cold War, President H.W. Bush made a clear promise to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev during the Malta summit in December 1989: if the Soviets allowed Eastern European Warsaw Pact states to leave their sphere of influence, the U.S. and NATO would not take advantage by pushing NATO further east. Throughout 1990 and into the early 1990s, repeated verbal assurances were made by Western leaders—including James Baker, Hans Dietrich Genscher, Helmut Kohl, Margaret Thatcher, John Major, and Francois Mitterrand—that NATO would not expand into former Warsaw Pact countries like Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia. Despite these promises, the Clinton administration, pressured by neoconservatives, went ahead with NATO expansion. George Kennan, architect of America's Cold War containment policy, explicitly warned in a 1998 New York Times interview that NATO expansion would provoke a negative reaction from Russia.
With each wave of NATO eastward expansion, membership and weapons systems approached Russia's borders, directly contradicting earlier security assurances. The U.S. played a direct role in regime change operations in Ukraine, orchestrating or supporting the ouster of governments in 2004 and 2014 following disputed elections tied to NATO stances. Victoria Nuland's testimony revealed deep US involvement throughout every level of Ukrainian government, essentially rendering Ukraine a colony of US interests, according to Horton. The Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014 was a direct and predictable reaction to America's support for the overthrow of Ukraine's government, though Western media typically starts the timeline at Russia's seizure, erasing crucial context.
A major US strategic fear, according to Horton and supported by intelligence analysts like George Friedman, is the possibility of a strong German-Russian alliance, which could shut the US out of continental affairs. Angela Merkel's push for a "Eurasian Home" and projects like the Nord Stream pipelines demonstrated efforts toward closer German-Russian economic ties, heightening US anxiety. The destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines is attributed by Seymour Hersh and others to US covert action, preventing Germany from becoming dependent on Russian energy and cementing its economic divorce from Russia.
A RAND Corporation study cautioned against policies that would overextend Russia, warning that pushing Russia too far could have devastating consequences for Ukraine, the US, and global stability. Horton argues that Biden officials ignored these strategic risks and pursued every suggested provocation, including supporting regime change efforts in Belarus and Kazakhstan. Rather than seeking diplomatic resolution, Biden administration policy has openly aimed for the "strategic defeat" of Russia, effectively pushing Russia into a stronger partnership with China, solidifying its break from Europe.
Horton highlights cables from WikiLeaks showing that US officials understood Ukraine's political divisions—many Ukrainians preferred neutrality or closer ties to Russia rather than NATO. Nonetheless, the US spent tens of millions on propaganda and pro-Western candidate support to override these preferences, treating democracy as legitimate only when it produced the "correct" outcome. Horton and Rogan argue that the prevailing narrative in US media erases the context of American and NATO actions, instead focusing solely on Russian aggression, manufacturing consent for military confrontation.
Horton explains that Iran has long been a signatory of the Nonproliferation Treaty and maintained a civilian nuclear program fully safeguarded by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) further tightened safeguards: Iran agreed to shut down about two-thirds of centrifuges at Natanz, convert Fordow to a research facility, and ship its stockpile of enriched uranium to Russia. For civilian energy, Iran enriched to only 3.6% U-235, and to 20% for medical isotopes—both far from weapons grade, which requires above 90% enrichment. The IAEA consistently verified that Iran did not divert nuclear material for weapons. The JCPOA also neutralized the plutonium path by having Iran fill the Arak heavy water reactor with concrete.
Before American withdrawal from the JCPOA, Iran maintained a posture of "latent deterrence"—openly capable of enriching uranium to weapons grade if threatened but choosing not to, hoping to deter military attack while avoiding actual weaponization. The Trump administration, influenced by Netanyahu, broke this standoff by adopting the position that even a civilian program was unacceptable. The resulting strikes in 2025, which damaged facilities and killed conservative leadership, upended this delicate equilibrium. Horton warns this has dangerously increased the likelihood that Iran will move toward actual weaponization, as preemptive attacks historically provoke, not halt, such efforts. The successor Ayatollah, having lost close family in strikes, is considered even more radical, adding to the risk of escalation.
Horton emphasizes that Iran already possesses regional military parity, removing any genuine need for nuclear weapons. Iran's short- and medium-range missile forces can strike every American base in the Persian Gulf, overwhelming U.S. missile defense systems. The Pentagon acknowledged as early as 2007 that the U.S. could not control escalation against Iran. Iran's geographical control over the Strait of Hormuz gives it economic leverage, allowing it to damage global energy markets if attacked.
After February 2025, Iran's successful missile strikes exposed the inability of the U.S. to defend its regional bases, shattering the illusion of uncontested American and Israeli power. This military reality has led Gulf Cooperation Council states to increasingly negotiate directly with Iran for regional security, bypassing the now-questioned U.S. security umbrella. Meanwhile, U.S. actions have accelerated Iran's strategic alignment with China, with Chinese purchases of Iranian hydrocarbons providing Iran with stable, sanction-resistant revenue.
Horton insists that despite decades of claims about imminent Iranian nuclear weapons, there is no actual evidence Iran is moving toward weaponization—especially after its facilities were heavily damaged. Historical precedents, such as North Korea, show that military strikes designed to stop proliferation often provoke the very outcomes they intend to prevent. Despite clear intelligence indicating no Iranian nuclear weaponization capability, policy decisions remained detached from reality, with devastating regional and strategic consequences.
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Scott Horton offers a blistering critique of America’s decades-long military presence and strategy in the Middle East, detailing how vast investments and aggressive interventions have ultimately undermined U.S. interests, empowered adversaries like Iran, and resulted in costly blowback for ordinary Americans.
Horton contends that America’s massive investment and military footprint in the Gulf have been rendered strategically bankrupt. Despite maintaining more than 100,000 troops in Iraq at one point, 50,000 in Afghanistan, and tens of thousands more spread across Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, and Oman, U.S. assets have become increasingly vulnerable. He describes how Iran’s recent missile strikes—hitting 18 bases from Irbil to Muscat, destroying radar stations, pitting runways, damaging refueling tankers and AWACS planes, and taking out overlapping missile defense radars—effectively left U.S. forces and regional allies like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, and Bahrain exposed with critical infrastructure offline.
Reports cited by Horton, including detailed satellite imagery published by major outlets, demonstrate the extent of Iranian capabilities, leading Qatar to negotiate with Iran to halt attacks and bar U.S.-launched sorties from its bases. The destruction of America's naval fifth fleet station in Bahrain and Qatar’s Central Command headquarters highlights how regional allies are forced into accommodation as U.S. deterrence collapses.
Horton emphasizes that, for two decades, he has warned that Iran could reach all U.S. military installations and a trillion dollars’ worth of economic targets, including refineries, chemical plants, and American oil tankers across the Gulf. The latest strikes proved this capacity, shattering the illusion of American air and naval dominance. Despite the U.S. still possessing aircraft carriers and nuclear weapons, Horton questions whether Gulf partners can continue to rely on American defense.
Trillions spent on the “War on Terror” and campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan have not contained Iran, which has instead consolidated and expanded its influence, especially after Bush’s and Obama’s policies in Baghdad and Syria. The moment Iran’s strikes “pwned” the region, the decades-long order collapsed, exposing the hollowness of America’s military empire.
Attack strategies have backfired, Horton argues, particularly when the U.S. struck first in 2025. While such action may have degraded Iran’s nuclear deterrent, it also eliminated vital U.S. leverage against Iran’s weaponization ambitions and regional expansion. Rather than weakening Iran, these strikes established it as the dominant regional power—the very outcome decades of U.S. containment strategy sought to prevent. Horton likens this strategic failure to scoring a goal for the opposing team, demonstrating that the military escalation not only failed to achieve objectives, but also solidified Iranian ascendancy.
One immediate, tragic consequence was the Austin terror attack, where an Iranian sympathizer killed three and injured 15 in response—a stark example of “backdraft terrorism,” the direct, violent blowback from overt U.S. policy decisions rather than the more gradual effects of covert interventions. Horton highlights how such aggressive foreign policy endangers Americans at home, exposing them to rapid and lethal reprisals.
U.S. Overreach in Middle Eastern Intervention
Neoconservatism, particularly through the Wolfowitz Doctrine, has profoundly shaped U.S. foreign policy for decades, driving a program of military expansion and interventionism that has had lasting, often destabilizing, global consequences.
In the aftermath of the first Gulf War, Paul Wolfowitz, then Deputy Secretary of Defense for Policy, authored the Defense Planning Guidance with other neoconservatives. This document, later known as the Wolfowitz Doctrine, declared that America must maintain dominance on every continent and would not tolerate the rise of any rival power or alliance. The goal was a permanent world order where U.S. supremacy remained unchallenged, justified by the belief that only American hegemony could prevent global catastrophe.
The doctrine articulated that the U.S. would reject any challenge to its supremacy and aimed for a level of military dominance that was ultimately unsustainable. Neoconservatives argued that if America did not dominate, a worse power would fill the void, making constant intervention and escalation necessary.
The initial Defense Planning Guidance draft was leaked, becoming a scandal due to its blunt language advocating for American unilateralism and militarism. While the document was rewritten with softer language, the underlying commitment to maintain American dominance endured and continued to influence policy.
The Wolfowitz Doctrine became operational through policies such as NATO expansion into Eastern Europe and military interventions in the Middle East. America’s footprint grew both through direct intervention and support for proxy forces and alliances, consistent with the doctrine’s goal of creating and preserving U.S. military superiority worldwide.
The persistent neoconservative influence was made possible by a powerful network of officials placed strategically throughout the U.S. defense and foreign policy establishment during successive administrations.
Key figures such as Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Stephen Cambone, Abram Shulsky, Bill Luti, Michael Rubin, Scooter Libby, David Wurmser, Elliott Abrams, Robert Joseph, and Stephen Hadley, among others, occupied major positions across the Pentagon, State Department, Vice President’s office, and National Security Council. Many cycled between government roles and think tanks, sustaining influence regardless of which political party held the White House.
These officials shaped policy by fostering consensus for war through control of narratives, media coordination, and building networks with defense contractors and lobbyists. Think tanks provided intellectual justification, and networks of like-minded actors ensured that neocon priorities—intervention, regime change, and military dominance—remained central.
A core tenet of this movement was support for Israeli regional dominance and unwavering belief in American hegemony. As illustrated by the “Clean Break” policy paper written for Benjamin Netanyahu by David Wurmser and Richard Perle, this ideology rejected negotiation in favor of strength and dominance, particularly targeting regimes hostile to U.S. and Israeli interests.
The neoconservative doctrine underpinned the campaign for the Iraq War, justified by flawed or deceptive theories about how regime change would realign the region.
Neoconservative policy documents predicted that, after Saddam Hussein’s removal, Sunni-led regimes like Jordan and Turkey would dominate Iraq, despite Iraq’s Shiite majority and deep religious and historical ties to Iran. They believed that Shiite religious leaders, revering the Hashemite monarchy of Jordan, would align their politics accordingly, contrary to all established sectarian and historical realities.
Neoconservatism's Influence on U.S. Foreign Policy
U.S. policy in the Middle East, particularly regarding Iran, is shaped by persistent and forceful Israeli influence, especially under Benjamin Netanyahu. This influence operates across administrations, with dynamics ranging from diplomatic pressure and narrative control to leveraging intelligence and personal flattery.
Scott Horton recounts that Netanyahu persuaded Trump that attacking Iran would be swift and decisive, much like the initial rapid victory in Iraq. Netanyahu assured Trump that a strike would topple the Iranian government, downplaying the significant Iranian missile arsenal and the likely extended conflict anticipated by U.S. military analysts. Trump was convinced that the regime would quickly fall, and even strategic chokepoints like the Strait of Hormuz posed little threat because Israeli arguments held that Iran would be unable to withstand a U.S. blow.
Netanyahu employed extensive flattery to sway Trump, comparing him to Franklin Roosevelt, George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln. He framed the prospect of a decisive Iranian strike as an opportunity for Trump to become a "world historical figure" and secure a revered legacy—claiming that a president who preemptively prevents war through power would be guaranteed a "place in heaven." This messaging targeted Trump’s desire for historical greatness and legacy building, overcoming his noted skepticism about engaging in new Middle Eastern wars.
Netanyahu’s pitch to Trump sidestepped the technical realities of Iran’s hardened military facilities and significant missile defenses. He cast the situation as one where overwhelming American military superiority could negate any real risk, ignoring U.S. intelligence and military analysis that predicted any conflict with Iran could quickly escalate, imperil U.S. bases across the region, and destabilize the global oil market by threatening vital shipping routes.
Furthermore, Netanyahu pressed Trump to reframe the U.S. red line from Iranian nuclear weapons to simply having a civilian nuclear program, insisting that any enrichment capability amounted to an inevitable path to nuclear arms. Trump adopted this maximalist Israeli position, aligning U.S. policy even more closely to Israeli security interests.
Joe Rogan and Scott Horton discuss how Vice President J.D. Vance, a noted skeptic of war with Iran, was absent from the meeting in which Netanyahu made his case to Trump. Vance was tied up with official visits to Azerbaijan and Armenia, related to regional security and peace summits, making his attendance impossible.
The meeting was arranged hastily and kept small in order to guard against leaks and to ensure primarily military action proponents were present. Other key cabinet secretaries were left out, and even Vance, known for his skepticism, was not notified in time to return.
While advisers did warn Trump not to take Netanyahu at face value, telling him not to wholly trust the Israeli prime minister’s promises regarding the ease of a strike, there was no outright opposition to the plan. Cabinet members recognized Israeli dominance in the escalation ladder and were aware of vulnerabilities such as U.S. bases exposed to Iranian missile retaliation but stopped short of open dissent in the critical meeting.
Scott Horton describes instances where Netanyahu used intelligence and surveillance as leverage against U.S. presidents. For example, Netanyahu pressured Bill Clinton by referencing the Monica Lewinsky scandal in the context of lobbying for Jonathan Pollard’s release, signifying that Israeli leaders were willing to use compromising information to obtain concessions.
Policy decisions are further skewed by the confluence of Israeli interests, powerful defens ...
Israeli Influence and Netanyahu's Impact on Trump Policy
Scott Horton and Joe Rogan discuss the roots of the conflict in Ukraine, focusing on the broken promises of the US and NATO, the strategic encirclement of Russia, regime change operations, and the broader geopolitical motivations driving American policy in Eastern Europe.
Scott Horton recounts that after the Cold War, US President H.W. Bush made a clear promise to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev during the Malta summit in December 1989: if the Soviets allowed the Eastern European Warsaw Pact states to leave their sphere of influence, the US and NATO would not take advantage of the situation or push NATO further east. This was supposed to be a full stop guarantee.
Throughout 1990 and into the early 1990s, repeated verbal assurances were made by Western leaders, including America, Britain, Germany, France, and others, that NATO would not expand into the former Warsaw Pact countries—explicitly mentioning Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia. Horton cites the involvement of officials like James Baker, Hans Dietrich Genscher, Helmut Kohl, Margaret Thatcher, John Major, and Francois Mitterrand, all of whom during numerous meetings, promised Russia that NATO would not absorb these nations.
Despite the promises, the US—under both Bush and later Clinton—went ahead with NATO expansion. In the Clinton years, pressure came from neoconservatives for expanding NATO in a way that excluded Russia from meaningful participation. Proponents like Strobe Talbot eventually supported the move. Horton emphasizes that diplomatic justifications were post-hoc; the real reason for expansion was seen as an unnecessary provocation against Russia, which was seeking integration into the West.
George Kennan, architect of America’s Cold War containment policy, explicitly warned that NATO expansion would provoke a negative reaction from Russia. In a 1998 New York Times interview, Kennan predicted that this move would lead to increased tensions and would later be used to justify further Western militarization by pointing to inevitable Russian pushback—an outcome that eventually played out.
With each wave of NATO eastward expansion, membership and weapons systems approached ever closer to Russia’s borders, violating the post-Cold War spirit of security agreements. Rogan and Horton both note that the US and NATO placed forces and bases in new member states, directly contradicting earlier security assurances.
The US played a direct role in regime change operations in Ukraine, orchestrating or heavily supporting the ouster of governments in 2004 (the Orange Revolution) and again in 2014 following disputed elections. Horton argues these moves were directly tied to the governments’ stances on NATO and reflects Washington’s practice of supporting only those democratic outcomes that align with American interests.
Victoria Nuland’s testimony is highlighted as evidence of deep US involvement in Ukrainian internal affairs, describing a US presence and influence throughout every level of the Ukrainian government, police, and military. Horton contends this “infiltration” essentially renders Ukraine a colony of US interests.
According to Horton, the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014 was a direct and predictable reaction to America's support for the overthrow of Ukraine’s government, rather than unprovoked Russian aggression. Western media typically glosses over these events and starts the timeline at Russia's seizure of Crimea, erasing crucial context about the coup and its American backing.
A major US strategic fear, according to Horton and supported by intelligence analysts like George Friedman, is the possibility of a strong German-Russian alliance. Such a partnership, combining German industrial power and Russian resources, could shut the US out of continental affairs and undermine American dominance.
Angela Merkel’s push for a “Eurasian Home”—balancing US and Russian interests in Europe—and projects like the Nord Stream pipelines demonstrated efforts toward closer German-Russian economic ties. Rogan and Horton argue these efforts heightened US anxiety about encirclement strategies losing effectiveness if Western Europe—and especially Germany—grew too close to Moscow.
The destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines, which linked Russian natural gas directly to Germany, is attributed by Seymour Hersh and others to US covert action. Multiple competing theories exist, but Horton asserts that it was clearly in America’s strategic interest to prevent Germany from being dependent on Russian energy, thus cementing its economic divorce from Russia. Horton notes how both President Biden and Victoria Nuland had publicly threatened to prevent Nord Stream’s operation, and how the incident caused massive environmental damage and undermined German-Russian relations.
Ukraine Conflict and Nato as Provocation Against Russia
Scott Horton explains that Iran has long been a signatory of the Nonproliferation Treaty and maintained a civilian nuclear program fully safeguarded by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The agency oversaw Iran's enrichment operations at two main facilities, Fordow and Natanz, monitoring the uranium from mining through conversion and enrichment, tracking it “from womb to tomb.”
The 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) further tightened safeguards. Iran agreed to significant restrictions: shutting down about two-thirds of centrifuges at Natanz and converting Fordow from a production site to a research facility. Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium was shipped to Russia, where it was turned into fuel rods, leaving Iran unable to quickly re-enrich uranium to higher levels for weapons without restarting the entire process. For civilian energy, Iran enriched to only 3.6% U-235, and to 20% for medical isotopes—both far from weapons grade, which requires above 90% enrichment.
The IAEA consistently verified that Iran did not divert nuclear material for weapons. Every step was monitored, and inspectors had full access, analogous to “having an ATF cop sitting at the barstool inside a gun shop”—any misappropriation would be clear and obvious.
Iran demonstrated mastery of the uranium fuel cycle as early as 2006, including all stages from yellowcake production to uranium metal. However, it never enriched uranium to weapons-grade or weaponized its program, relying on strict compliance inspections.
The JCPOA also neutralized the plutonium path: Iran filled the Arak heavy water reactor—which could have produced weapons-grade plutonium—with concrete, effectively shuttering it. The only operating reactor, Bushehr, is a light water reactor, far less suited for bomb-making and under constant scrutiny.
Before American withdrawal from the JCPOA, Iran maintained a posture of “latent deterrence”—openly capable of enriching uranium to weapons grade if threatened but choosing not to, hoping to deter military attack while avoiding actual weaponization.
This balance held as long as all sides respected red lines: Iran avoided making nuclear weapons so long as it was not attacked, maintaining a kind of standoff where the threat of escalation was implicit but kept in check.
The Trump administration, influenced by Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, broke this standoff by adopting the position that even a civilian program was unacceptable. The resulting strikes in 2025, which damaged Natanz and Fordow (though their total destruction is unproven), and the killing of the conservative Ayatollah and his family, upended this delicate equilibrium. With facilities frozen and leadership radicalized, Iran faced pressure to show strength. Horton warns this has dangerously increased the likelihood that Iran will move toward actual weaponization, as preemptive attacks historically provoke, not halt, such efforts.
The successor Ayatollah, having lost close family in Israeli strikes, is considered even more radical and vengeful than his predecessor, adding to the risk of escalation, even if moving toward nuclear weapons makes no strategic sense for Iran under normal circumstances.
Horton emphasizes that Iran already possesses regional military parity, removing any genuine need for nuclear weapons.
Iran’s short- and medium-range missile forces can strike every American base in the Persian Gulf, overwhelming U.S. missile defense systems. Their demonstrated capabilities, including launching missiles as far as Diego Garcia, grant them a formidable deterrent.
The Pentagon acknowledged as early as 2007 that the U.S. could not control escalation against Iran. American military planners understood that any conflict risked spiraling out of U.S. dominance, deterring invasion or large-scale attacks.
Iran’s geographical control over the Strait of Hormuz, the world’s key oil chokepoint, gives it economic leverage, allowing it to damage global energy markets and threaten to drive up oil prices substantially if attacked.
The aftermath of the 2025 conflict undermined American military dominance in the Gulf.
Iran's Nuclear Program, Jcpoa, and Military Action Consequences
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