#2438 - John Mellencamp
In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, John Mellencamp shares his journey through the music industry, from his early days performing in local bands to his breakthrough success with MCA Records. He discusses the challenges he faced, including management conflicts over his stage name and the industry's resistance to songs that would later become hits. He also describes how MTV's emergence and the rise of rap music transformed the landscape of popular music.
Mellencamp opens up about his personal life, including his decision to quit substances at age 21 and his experiences with health issues and panic attacks. The conversation covers his evolution as a songwriter, his shift from arena tours to theater performances, and his perspective on aging and life's simple pleasures. He also reveals his plans for an upcoming greatest hits tour featuring new interpretations of his classic songs.
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Early Musical Journey and Industry Challenges
John Mellencamp began his musical career at age 14, performing in bands like the Great Soul and later the Mason Brothers. At 22, he signed with MCA, though executives initially rejected songs that would later become hits. His journey included a challenging stint in England during the punk era and struggles with management over his stage name "Johnny Cougar." Despite these obstacles, Mellencamp eventually broke through with hits from "American Fool" and "Scarecrow," establishing himself as an undeniable talent.
MTV and the Changing Music Landscape
Mellencamp benefited significantly from MTV's early days when music videos were scarce, though he notes that the attention became overwhelming. He explains how the introduction of SoundScan technology and the rise of rap music dramatically changed the industry landscape, pushing rock music to the background. In response to these changes, Mellencamp shifted from arena tours to theater performances, prioritizing artistry over spectacle.
Personal Life, Health, and Perspective on Aging
Mellencamp shares his early struggles with substance abuse, which he quit at age 21 following a violent incident. He discusses his experiences with panic attacks, health issues, and family life, including his early marriage and relationship with his children and grandchildren. The artist reflects on life's fragility, referencing his grandmother's saying "Life is short, even in its longest days," and emphasizes the importance of appreciating simple joys and maintaining humility.
Songwriting Legacy and Musical Impact
Initially preferring to be a "barroom singer" covering others' work, Mellencamp developed into a celebrated songwriter. His songs about small-town life and youth struggles, such as "Jack and Diane" and "Hurt So Good," became cultural anthems. Looking ahead, Mellencamp reveals plans for a greatest hits tour, including fresh interpretations of classic songs, demonstrating his continued evolution as an artist.
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- You can start exploring your creative side by joining local music groups or community bands, just as Mellencamp did in his early years. This could be as simple as attending a local jam session or signing up for a community music class. By doing so, you immerse yourself in a creative environment, which can inspire you to develop your own artistic talents.
- Consider reinterpreting a classic task or project in your life to give it a fresh perspective, akin to Mellencamp planning a tour with new takes on his hits. For example, if you enjoy cooking, try reinventing a traditional family recipe with new ingredients or techniques. This approach encourages innovation and keeps your passions alive through evolution.
- Reflect on your personal challenges and triumphs by writing a short memoir or journal entries, drawing inspiration from Mellencamp's reflections on his life. This doesn't require any special skills, just a willingness to look inward and document your experiences. It can be a therapeutic exercise that helps you appreciate the simple joys and maintain humility, as Mellencamp emphasizes.
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Mellencamp's Early Musical Journey and Industry Challenges
John Mellencamp's rise to fame was a journey filled with both musical evolution and battles with the music industry's norms and expectations.
Mellencamp Pursued Music Early, Playing In Bands and Seeking a Record Deal
Starting from a young age, Mellencamp plunged into the world of music. By the ripe age of 14, he was already a member of a band, originally understood as the Crepe Soul, but correctly identified as the Great Soul. Alongside bandmate Fred Booker, Mellencamp covered songs like "I'm Your Puppet" at fraternity and sorority events. This early introduction to performing provided him not only money and the opportunity to socialize with older girls but also a taste of the musician's life.
Post-college, Mellencamp joined the Mason Brothers, where he continued to expand his vocal talents in the same vein, getting by as a barroom singer without yet tapping into his potential as a songwriter.
Mellencamp's Rocky First MCA Deal: Executives Disliked Early Songs Like "Hurt So Good," "Jack and Diane"
His tight hold on his natural born talent didn't restrict him from getting noticed. At 22, Mellencamp sealed a record deal and shot over to California to meet with Mike Maitland from MCA. There, Mellencamp's early records were met with skepticism; executives couldn't find a tune to their liking even though two people within the label saw something in him. Despite being immediately dropped from MCA after defending his work, he persisted, and this resilience paid off.
Mellencamp's collaborations brightened up his approach, as illustrated by his work with Mick Ronson using a drum machine which, despite the disdain of record company executives, ended up creating a distinct, fresh sound.
Mellencamp Struggled In England With the Punk Scene and a Controlling Manager
Mellencamp's ventures across the pond to England placed him amid the burgeoning punk scene, with bands like The Clash and the Sex Pistols. But life in Chelsea, with his acoustic guitar in the shadows of punk, became fraught with conflict and personal danger from the National Front due to his American identity.
Mellencamp Faced Pushback From Labels and Critics Over His "Johnny Cougar" Name and Sound
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- Start your creative journey early by joining or forming a group with similar interests to practice and share your work, much like joining a band or a writing circle, to gain experience and network with peers.
- By collaborating with others who share your passion, you can learn from each other, build confidence, and create opportunities for exposure. For instance, if you're interested in photography, join a local photography club or start an online group where members can critique each other's work and organize exhibitions.
- Defend your creative vision by seeking constructive feedback from a diverse audience, not just industry experts, to refine your work and build resilience.
- Share your creations with friends, family, and online communities to gather a wide range of opinions. This can help you understand how your work resonates with different people and teach you to stand by your vision when faced with criticism. For example, if you're a budding filmmaker, screen your short films at local community events or online platforms and invite viewers to share their thought ...
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Impact of MTV and the Changing Music Landscape
John Mellencamp reflects on how MTV's emergence and the evolving music industry technology have shaped his career and the wider music landscape.
MTV's Rise Changed Mellencamp's Music Reach
Mellencamp Gained From MTV's Limited Music Videos
In the early days of MTV, John Mellencamp's music videos were frequently played on the channel due to the limited number of available music videos. Mellencamp noted that audiences originally got to know musicians through album covers, but that changed when they started buying records based on how bands looked in videos. He benefited from heavy rotation because he was one of the few artists with videos ready when the channel launched.
Mellencamp's Music Videos Gained Popularity, but the Attention Was Overwhelming
Mellencamp participated in the initial promotions of MTV, memorably in the giveaway of a pink house. The fame from this exposure on MTV was substantial, making him recognizable on the streets. This newfound recognition, however, was sometimes overwhelming as it included a constant demand for autographs and personal attention.
Soundscan Shift, Rap Rise Pushed Mellencamp Off Charts
John Mellencamp shares that the introduction of SoundScan disrupted the way rock music was charted and its presence on the music charts. SoundScan's technology reassigned weights to plays from different cities, which, coupled with the rise of rap music, pushed rock to the background. Mellencamp points out that record companies shifted their focus to cater to urban R&B stations.
Mellencamp on Music Industry Changes and Career Path
Mellencamp Noticed Industry Focused On Urban Radio, Rap Over Rock Acts
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- You can create a playlist of emerging artists with limited exposure to support their growth, similar to how MTV's rotation of Mellencamp's videos increased his visibility. Start by exploring music platforms for new and upcoming artists, then compile and share a playlist on social media to give these musicians a chance to be heard by a wider audience.
- Explore local music scenes to discover and support artists who may be overlooked by mainstream channels, reflecting Mellencamp's shift to smaller venues. Attend local gigs, buy merchandise directly from the artists, and use social media to promote their work, helping to create a more diverse and vibrant music community.
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Mellencamp's Personal Life, Health, and Perspective On Aging
John Mellencamp candidly discusses his early struggles, family life, and reflections on aging, conveying a message of personal growth and the value of humility and simple joys.
Mellencamp's Early Struggles Included Drug and Alcohol Abuse
Mellencamp Beaten Up For Starting Fight, Quits Drugs and Alcohol
Mellencamp reveals that his last use of drugs was back in 1970, and he used to drink whiskey and start fights when intoxicated. He recalls a college incident where he spat on a large individual, leading to a beating that left him severely injured. The next morning, encountering his own battered reflection, Mellencamp decided that this lifestyle was not working for him and quit drugs and alcohol at the age of 21.
Mellencamp Faced Panic Attacks, Health Issues, and a Major Heart Attack, Altering His Perspective
He also shares that, during college, his idea of fun was throwing water balloons because that's all he knew. More seriously, Mellencamp experienced panic disorders post-college, leading to agoraphobia. These anxiety issues may or may not have been connected to an early-life operation he had for spina bifida. Mellencamp points out his family's history with cholesterol issues and his own borderline diabetic status. He watched his mother's health decline due to poor diabetes management and diet, which might have influenced his own views on health and aging.
Mellencamp's Personal Life: Family Joys and Struggles of Parenthood
Mellencamp Married Young, Embraced and Struggled With Children Due To Touring
Mellencamp married his first wife, who was five years his senior, in high school. They had a child together, who is now in her fifties, and he has four more children. He discusses the difficulties of maintaining close family relationships while touring, and he notes the common experience of daughters distancing themselves from their parents during adolescence. Mellencamp also shares the hardship of having a daughter who is currently dealing with brain cancer.
Mellencamp Values Family, Staying Close With Children and Grandchildren as He Ages
Despite early challenges as a parent, Mellencamp treasures family time and feels grateful for having many children, as advised by his father. His son Hud, a Duke graduate, lives on his property, which shows Mellencamp's love for having his family close. His oldest daughter’s early marriage resonates with his own, and as a young grandfather, he emphasizes the importance of family connections.
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- Create a "Life's Lessons" journal where you document personal experiences that have taught you valuable lessons, similar to how Mellencamp's experiences shaped his views on health and family. For example, write about a time when a difficult situation led to a positive change in your life, and reflect on how you can apply this lesson to current challenges.
- Develop a "Family First" plan to prioritize and strengthen family relationships, taking inspiration from Mellencamp's emphasis on family. Set aside regular times for family meals, create a family group chat to share daily updates, or establish a monthly family game night to ensure you're actively maintaining these connections.
- Adopt a "Simple Joys" practice to appreciate the small pleasure ...
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Mellencamp's Songwriting Legacy and Lasting Musical Impact
John Mellencamp's rise from "barroom singer" to American musical icon is a testament to his powerful songwriting, a craft he mastered despite initial doubts and challenges like dyslexia. His songs, ingrained in American culture, remain timeless anthems.
Mellencamp's Songwriting, Once Doubted, Became Key to His Success
Mellencamp Initially Preferred Being a "Barroom Singer" Covering Others Over Songwriting
Mellencamp confessed that before his success, he had never written a song and had no experience. He embraced songwriting only after he got a record deal, a move that would vastly redefine his career from a "barroom singer" covering other artists' work.
Persistence and Crafting Songs Led Mellencamp to Acclaim As Songwriter
Mellencamp shared that it wasn't until he grew up in the public eye with his songwriting that his talents were recognized. With hits penned down in unconventional locations like the shower, Mellencamp quickly became celebrated for his ability to produce memorable songs on the fly, such as "Hurt So Good."
Mellencamp's "Jack and Diane," "Hurt So Good" Are American Cultural Anthems
Mellencamp's Songs on Small-Town Life and Youth Struggles Resonated
Mellencamp's surprise that his early creations, "Jack and Diane" in particular, reached the stature they did is evident in his commentary on their influence, comparing them to iconic lovers like Romeo and Juliet. Joe Rogan also reminisced about how Mellencamp's themes of small-town life and the difficulties of youth had a considerable effect on his adolescence.
Mellencamp's Songs Are Classic, Resonating With Fans Through Emotional Honesty and Universal Themes
Rogan appreciates Mellencamp's emotionally honest reflection on the bittersweet nature of life, specifically referencing lyrics like "life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone." Mellencamp's knack for distilling the universal human experience into music has evidently struck chords that continue to resonate with fans over time.
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- You can explore your own creative process by adopting unconventional methods, like brainstorming ideas during daily routines such as showering or cooking. This can help you discover unique perspectives and solutions in your work or personal projects, much like Mellencamp found inspiration in everyday activities. For example, keep a waterproof notepad in the shower to jot down thoughts that come to you amidst the solitude and white noise of the water.
- Develop a personal anthem by writing a song, poem, or short story that encapsulates your life experiences or the essence of your community. Even if you're not a musician, the act of creating a narrative that reflects your reality can be empowering and therapeutic. Start by listing out key moments or themes in your life, then weave them into a narrative that others can relate to, capturing the universal emotions that Mellencamp tapped into.
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