In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, TV writer Graham Linehan shares his experience of professional and personal consequences after speaking out against transgender ideology. He describes losing work opportunities, including a £200,000 "Father Ted" musical project, facing police investigations, and experiencing the breakdown of his marriage. The conversation covers how critics are silenced through various methods, from lawsuits to social media harassment.
The discussion examines concerns about women's spaces and safety, medical interventions for young people, and potential health risks of certain treatments. Linehan and Rogan explore parallels between current transgender discourse and historical moral panics, discussing the role of the internet in spreading ideas and the observation of demographic patterns in gender identity. They also address the media's approach to covering these topics and why some people remain silent on these issues.
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In a conversation with Joe Rogan, Graham Linehan, the acclaimed writer of "Father Ted" and "The IT Crowd," discusses the severe personal and professional consequences he faced after speaking out against transgender ideology. Linehan describes losing his income sources, professional opportunities, and social connections. Despite his previous success, he was ostracized from the industry, faced police investigations, and even lost a £200,000 opportunity related to a "Father Ted" musical. The strain contributed to his marriage breakdown, with only a few colleagues, including Richard Ayoade and Jonathan Ross, remaining supportive.
Linehan reveals how transgender activists employ various methods to silence critics, including lawsuits, police complaints, and social media harassment. He describes instances of police complacency during confrontations and shares his experience with a convicted sex offender who weaponized transgender identity to harass critics. According to Linehan, the media's reluctance to accurately report on these issues further suppresses open debate, while Rogan notes that fear of retribution keeps many from speaking up.
The discussion explores concerns about women's safety and rights when trans women are allowed in female spaces. Linehan criticizes Girlguiding rules in the UK that he believes could enable potential exploitation. Both Rogan and Linehan express worry about medical interventions on confused or autistic children, discussing the lifelong consequences of treatments like [restricted term] and puberty blockers, including increased health risks and infertility.
Linehan draws parallels between current transgender ideology and historical moral panics like the 1980s Satanic Panic. He suggests that the internet facilitates the spread of what he sees as mass delusion, particularly affecting young autistic people. Rogan adds that the movement has taken on religious characteristics, with dissent leading to ostracization. They discuss Abigail Shrier's observations about clusters of young people identifying as transgender, suggesting social contagion as a factor.
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Graham Linehan and Joe Rogan delve into the personal and professional consequences Linehan has faced as a result of speaking out against transgender ideology, highlighting ostracization, loss of income, harassment, and legal battles.
Graham Linehan, a highly successful UK comedy writer, rose to prominence with shows like "Father Ted" and "The IT Crowd," for which he received multiple BAFTAs. "Father Ted" is particularly revered in Ireland and is considered something of a national institution.
After criticizing transgender ideology, Linehan experienced significant pushback, including being smeared as a bigot and facing a tarnished reputation from lies spread about him online. Linehan talks about the toxicity on Twitter regarding trans ideology, noting that discussing these issues led to public confusion and irrational responses.
Not only did he face harassment and lawsuits from a group suing him and repeated reporting to the police, but this strain contributed to the breakdown of his marriage, as his wife was frightened by police visits to their home.
Despite making many of his colleagues famous, Linehan reveals that not a single person publicly stood up for him following the backlash. This lack of support extended to a widespread abandonment, with Linehan losing hundreds of thousands of followers and noting a strained relationship with colleagues, including receiving cold looks former co-workers.
Linehan described being offered £200,000 to walk away from a musical based on "Father Ted," which he believed could have been a guaranteed hit—a significant loss of potential income. The musical had been something he worked on for years and could have served as his pension.
Linehan indicates that shortly after he began discussing women's rights in relation to transgender issues, he lost nearly everything, from income and standing in the television world to social networks. He mentions working on "Father Ted" with Lissa Evans, who stood by him, but others, like Graham Norton, appeared to support the narrative against him.
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Consequences Of Speaking Out Against Transgender Ideology
Graham Linehan and Joe Rogan discuss the aggressive tactics used by transgender activists to silence dissenters, with the legal system and social media playing significant roles in suppressing debate.
Linehan observes the police turning a blind eye while trans activists cornered a group of women, implying police complacency in the intimidation. He suggests that British police could be leveraging trans activists to discourage women from gathering by ensuring confrontations with activists. Linehan speaks about his own legal struggles, mentioning being sued and having police visit him due to his statements on transgender issues. He references a case of a sex offender who misused his transgender identity to report others for anti-trans harassment and used his legal rights to harass women for eight years, including Linehan himself, leading to Linehan's need to return to the UK for trial. This individual had assaulted a 14-year-old boy and weaponized the police to target his enemies.
Rogan discusses how progressives online defend men who identify as women and are in women's spaces and label women who object as bigots. Linehan talks about being expelled from Twitter, allowing misinformation about him to spread unchecked, and recounts incidents where social media was used to pressure his associates and friends to disassociate from him due to his perceived stance on transgender issues.
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Tactics to Suppress Dissent and Debate
Graham Linehan and Joe Rogan delve into a critical discussion on the societal implications and dangers of the transgender movement, raising concerns about its impact on women’s rights, the safety of vulnerable groups, and the medical consequences for transgender individuals.
Linehan discusses the potential risks to women's safety and rights due to the allowance of trans women in female spaces and sports. He expresses concern that this decision is being imposed on society without considering the long-term implications for women’s privacy and the fairness in competition, suggesting a destabilization of the norms that protect women's rights.
He criticizes the Girlguiding rules in the UK, explaining that once a man identifies as a woman, protective rules no longer apply to them, which could allow trans-identified men to take young girls on trips. Rogan and Linehan also discuss the potential exploitation of transgender rights by male predators to access women's spaces. Linehan implies that transvestites are not genuinely transgender yet demand the same rights as women, which he argues is unfair and poses a threat to the hard-won rights of women.
Linehan speaks about the medical interventions on transgender individuals, focusing particularly on confused or autistic children. He relays the grave consequences of [restricted term] treatments and puberty blockers, such as increased heart attack risks, early menopause, and infertility. Rogan mentions that these medical interventions can have lifelong repercussions, including potential brain impacts and strokes.
Linehan references a comparison to chemical castration and suggests that many in the tech industry pushing trans narratives may be autistic—expressing skepticism about the approach that immediately affirms children's gender dysphoria rather than considering it more carefully. He emphasizes the severe and lasting consequences of medical procedures such as double mastectomies and hysterectomies on young transgender men and women.
Linehan and Rogan discuss how the acceptance of self-identified gender may create opportunities for predators and criminals to exploit these relaxed rules. Linehan touches on an incident where a sex offender exploited access to female-designated spaces, proposing that similar threats could arise with the growing acceptance of transgender individuals in sensitive areas, such as women’s shelters and prisons. They sugges ...
Societal Implications and Dangers of the Transgender Movement
Amid a candid discussion with Joe Rogan, Graham Linehan delves into the various facets of transgender ideology and its propagation in society, drawing comparisons to historical moral panics and raising concerns about present-day social contagion.
Graham Linehan suggests that a history of participation in mass delusions, such as the satanic panic of the 1980s, is repeating with the current transgender movement. He expresses concern over the internet's role in fueling this mass delusion, proposing that phrases like "trans women are women" indicate a collective mindset lacking in objective analysis. The spread of such ideologies online is likened to a cult, further intensified by platform migrations, as was the case when porn was banned on Tumblr, causing those who identified as trans to move to Twitter.
Joe Rogan and Graham Linehan touch on the notion of social contagion within the movement. Linehan highlights instances of self-harm among those who have undergone surgery. He also refers to a comedian in LA with two children self-identifying as transgender, hinting at the likelihood of social contagion among youth. They discuss Abigail Shrier's claims about clusters of young people, including diagnosed autistic individuals, pointing towards statistical improbabilities that suggest a social influence that leads to identification as transgender. The psychological effects of [restricted term] are mentioned, connecting the alleviation of anxiety and increased confidence with the decision of young people to identify as transgender.
Within the conversation, concerns are raised about the potential manipul ...
Parallels To Moral Panics and Potential Social Contagion
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