In this episode of The Game w/ Alex Hormozi, Alex Hormozi works with Ahnny Truong to address critical challenges in her lash business and identify opportunities for substantial revenue growth. Hormozi tackles issues ranging from partnership conflicts and unclear compensation structures to untapped pricing strategies and staff training gaps. He proposes practical solutions including equity swaps between partners, dynamic weekend pricing, and structured membership programs designed to boost both revenue and customer retention.
Throughout the conversation, Hormozi outlines systems for improving sales conversions, employee development, and customer acquisition tracking. He emphasizes the importance of implementing consistent processes—from rebooking protocols to lead follow-up strategies—that can dramatically increase business value. The episode provides a framework for transforming operational inefficiencies into profit opportunities while building sustainable growth through better compensation structures and career advancement paths for employees.

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Alex Hormozi and Ahnny Truong discuss critical partnership issues hindering business growth. Truong describes how some partners have disengaged from responsibilities and no longer share the company's vision, leading to management deficiencies across locations.
Hormozi emphasizes addressing partnership problems directly rather than avoiding difficult conversations. He proposes an equity swap solution where partners trade full ownership of different locations instead of splitting everything 50/50, avoiding the complexity and taxes of cash buyouts while preserving relationships. For less committed partners, he suggests a 12-18 month phased buyout during which they help hire and train replacements.
Hormozi cautions that vague ownership and compensation structures distort business performance, particularly when active partners work unpaid. He advises factoring in market-rate manager salaries before expansion to reveal true location profitability and ensure sustainable business models. He also emphasizes distinguishing ownership equity from profit-sharing bonuses to maintain clarity in compensation structures.
Hormozi explains how dynamic pricing and structured memberships can substantially boost revenue. He recommends a 10-20% premium on weekend appointments (Thursday through Saturday), capitalizing on peak demand. This strategy can drive profit margins from 28% to 33%—equivalent to opening a new location without additional overhead.
To maintain loyalty, members are exempt from weekend surges, making membership highly attractive. The membership program includes monthly, six-month, and twelve-month options with upfront payments that improve cash flow and reduce churn. Benefits include complimentary facials, product discounts, $50 referral bonuses, and monthly sweepstakes where both winners and referrers receive prizes.
Hormozi positions the $99 introductory lash set as a break-even lead magnet, with true profit emerging from upselling to premium services and memberships. Truong reports a 90% success rate upselling from the $99 entry to a $170 superior set. Optimizing this conversion flow—ensuring every customer is offered premium services and memberships before services begin—can increase business value by 20-30%.
Hormozi introduces the Bamfam (Book A Meeting From A Meeting) system to ensure clients schedule their next appointment before leaving. By positioning rebooking as a routine administrative step rather than a sales pitch, businesses can achieve 80-90% rebooking rates.
He recommends daily 15-30 minute role-play sessions for staff to build muscle memory for membership pitches and overcoming objections. Training should include scripted responses to common hesitations, such as "We already have your card on file" for payment concerns. The gap between Truong's 90% upsell rate and her team's sub-50% rate reveals significant untapped revenue opportunity.
Hormozi suggests framing membership as formalizing benefits loyal customers already deserve rather than introducing new purchases. Using CRM data—"You've been here six times in six months"—makes joining feel like claiming rewards. He advises positioning membership as the default (opt-out) rather than optional, and completing the close post-service using the card on file with prepayment framed as making today's service free relative to annual savings.
Truong explains that new employees begin at varying commission rates based on experience, while Hormozi outlines advancement through six title changes across six compensation levels at three-month intervals. Each stage includes skill training for higher-value services, creating healthy competition and reducing turnover through transparent advancement.
For top performers, Hormozi suggests offering profit-based partial ownership at new satellite locations—10% in the first year of management and 20% in the second year. This is framed as compensation, not equity, maintaining control while incentivizing high performance and providing career longevity.
To prevent employees from starting competing businesses and taking clients, Hormozi emphasizes that improved compensation, frequent advancement, and profit-sharing opportunities align employee incentives with business success, making staff less likely to leave and reducing the risk of client poaching.
Hormozi and Truong discuss systematically tracking customer sources through sign-in data to understand marketing effectiveness. Despite spending only $1,000 monthly across six locations—just half a percent of revenue—half of all clients cite Google as their source, suggesting significant underinvestment in an effective channel.
Hormozi recommends hiring a dedicated employee at $40,000 annually to call every new lead within one minute of inquiry, with an expected return of two to three times the salary investment. The simple script focuses on confirming the customer's booking interest and securing payment details immediately.
To maximize efficiency, all transactions and verifications are completed before service begins. Staff use an intake checklist covering customer ID, payment cards, service requests, reviews, rebooking, and acquisition channels, leveraging waiting time to boost operational efficiency and maintain consistent data collection.
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Alex Hormozi outlines that effective resolution of partnership issues is critical for business growth, stressing that unresolved partnerships consume mental bandwidth and hinder execution. Ahnny Truong describes partner misalignments, where some partners have disengaged from responsibilities and no longer share the vision for company growth, leading to deficiencies in management, hiring, customer service, and fulfillment across locations.
Hormozi emphasizes the necessity of addressing partnership problems directly, stating that avoiding hard conversations only allows issues to fester and worsen. He advises setting clear expectations and communicating concerns transparently to prevent resentment and stagnation. Truong admits that while the business started with a foundation of friendship, differing ambitions have now surfaced, with some partners disconnected from the new growth goals and others preoccupied with outside priorities.
Truong identifies that some partners, particularly one with a full-time career and family commitments, fail to train staff or oversee orders, diminishing service and customer satisfaction. Hormozi observes that as some partners have dropped responsibilities since the original equity agreement, the working founder experiences frustration doing the bulk of the work, especially around marketing and scaling without taking a salary. This lack of shared effort or vision is a major barrier to scaling and creates personal and operational tension.
Hormozi proposes solutions to dissolve unproductive partnerships and realign the business structure:
For partners “with their foot out the door,” Hormozi suggests a phased buyout over 12-18 months, providing stability as they gradually disengage. In return, these partners can be asked to transition their duties and help hire and train replacements, ensuring continuity while preventing abrupt operational gaps.
Hormozi cautions that vague ownership and compensation structures distort true business performance, particularly when active partners are unpaid for critical management functions.
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Partnership Structure and Resolution
Implementing dynamic pricing and thoughtfully structured memberships can substantially boost revenue, profitability, and customer retention for service-based businesses. By harnessing demand patterns and incentivizing customer commitment, operators can turn pricing strategies into catalysts for growth.
Peak service periods—typically Thursday through Saturday—offer an opportunity to raise prices without alienating loyal customers. Ahnny Truong identifies these days as consistently busiest. As Alex Hormozi explains, the law of supply and demand justifies price increases when demand exceeds supply. He recommends a 10–20% premium on weekend appointments, capitalizing on customers willing to pay more for peak time slots. For example, starting with a 10% increase may yield a 5% increase in total revenue, but thanks to high-profit margins (28%), this can drive profit margins up to 33%, representing a nearly 20% jump in profit. This equates to the profitability of opening an entirely new location without incurring additional overhead.
To maintain customer loyalty amidst price hikes, the strategy positions membership as a solution: members are "immune" to weekend price surges, making membership more attractive. This transforms a potential price barrier into a powerful selling point. As Hormozi notes, “one of the beautiful things is that you can create a problem, then solve it”—by introducing higher weekend rates and exempting members, membership becomes highly desirable, helping to smooth weekly demand, stabilize staff utilization, and enhance overall profitability.
A well-constructed membership program increases both perceived and real value. The discussed program tiers include monthly, six-month, and twelve-month memberships, with the latter two paid entirely up front. Six- and twelve-month options offer 10% and 15% discounts respectively on services. Upfront payments immediately improve cash flow, enable business growth, reduce churn (since prepaid customers are less likely to defect), and lock in future recurring revenue.
Membership benefits go beyond discounts:
These features collectively enhance member stickiness, increase their lifetime value, and help the business sustain growth through organic referrals and steady cash flow.
Customer acquisition begins with a $99 introductory lash set ...
Revenue Optimization Through Pricing and Membership Strategy
A well-structured sales process and rigorous staff training system are essential to drive client retention, membership conversion, and upselling in service-based businesses. Alex Hormozi and Ahnny Truong discuss practical approaches for implementing these systems to deliver consistency and maximize revenue.
The Bamfam (Book A Meeting From A Meeting) system aims to ensure clients always have their next appointment scheduled before they leave. Hormozi emphasizes that, instead of relying on clients to remember to rebook or create extra administrative tasks, staff should secure the next appointment during or before the end of the current service. Pre-booking guarantees future visits and reduces the risk of clients going elsewhere.
Hormozi suggests that the best time to secure the next appointment is during the service, when clients are still engaged and committed. While some clients naturally book right away, making pre-booking a standard for all clients can greatly benefit the business—especially if it shifts visit frequency, for instance from every four or five weeks to every three weeks. If pre-booking is handled before the appointment ends, it captures the customer’s attention before they become eager to leave.
Positioning rebooking as a routine, administrative step rather than a sales conversation results in high rebooking rates. Hormozi notes that if 80-90% of clients are rebooked before leaving, the impact on retention and revenue is dramatic. Staff can frame it as a logical next step: “Your lashes are good for three weeks, let’s get you on the calendar now since I’m booking up quickly.” This reduces friction and secures long-term customer commitment.
Hormozi recommends intense sales training using daily 15-30 minute role-play sessions for all front desk and service staff. This routine builds muscle memory for membership pitches, rebooking, and overcoming objections. Staff practice real scenarios such as booking next appointments or pitching memberships, with immediate feedback and repetition until they “get it right.” This hands-on approach turns effective selling into an instinctive practice.
Role-playing should incorporate scripted responses to common objections. For example, if a client claims they do not have their card, staff can respond, “No problem, we already have your card on file.” For hesitation about scheduling now, staff can suggest, “Let’s pull up your calendar, I’ll show you my openings.” These ready-made answers eliminate friction in the sales process.
Upselling proficiency varies widely. Ahnny Truong achieves a 90% upsell rate from the $99 promo set to a $170 set, while her team’s average is less than 50%. Hormozi points out this gap underscores a major revenue opportunity that can be unlocked by consistent training and expectation-setting for staff performance.
Sales Process and Training Systems
Building a forward-thinking career path for employees is essential to reducing turnover, boosting performance, and aligning staff incentives with business success. Ahnny Truong and Alex Hormozi discuss comprehensive strategies to achieve these goals, from career progression systems to profit-sharing opportunities and competing business prevention.
Ahnny Truong explains that new employees begin with a commission rate of 40%, depending on their experience, rather than everyone starting at the same rate. Alex Hormozi outlines a structured process where employees can advance through stages of 45%, 50%, and up to 55%, providing motivation and a clear path for growth. He proposes a system featuring six title changes—junior technician, technician, senior technician, junior artist, artist, and senior artist—across six compensation levels, each stage lasting three months.
This frequent three-month cadence keeps advancement tangible and nearby, improving motivation compared to longer intervals such as six months. Each new title is paired with skill training specific to the level, allowing technicians to offer higher-value services and earn more through both immediate raises and increased potential for higher client pricing. This career path structure creates healthy competition among employees for advancement and management opportunities, ensuring that only top, well-trained performers move forward, and consistently reducing turnover by fostering loyalty and transparency. Frequent promotions and tangible pay increases also enhance staff retention and reduce the need to continuously retrain new hires, naturally improving profit margins.
To further reduce talent loss, Hormozi suggests offering exceptional employees the opportunity to manage new satellite locations, paired with a profit-based partial ownership model. After two years of demonstrated excellence, these employees can be selected to manage newly opened locations, receiving a 10% profit share in the first year of management and a 20% profit share in the second year.
This opportunity is framed as compensation, not equity, maintaining clear lines around control and decision-making. Unlike equity, this profit sharing does not expose employees to risks or control issues associated with full ownership, and if a manager underperforms, the business owner can reassign management as needed. The qualification process ensures that only fully trained and reliable employees ascend to management, maintaining a strong pipeline of capable leaders for ongoing expansion and success. This long-term compen ...
Employee Career Development and Retention
Alex Hormozi and Ahnny Truong discuss the importance of systematically tracking where customers come from to better understand marketing effectiveness. All customers are required to sign in upon arrival by selecting their source channel, such as Google Ads, organic search, referral, or social media. If a customer enters with a referral, they enter the referring party, which produces detailed data showing which channels generate the most profitable customers.
Currently, ad spend is below the industry benchmark, with Ahnny Truong reporting only $1,000 spent per month across six locations—amounting to approximately $180 per site each month. On a $2.3 million business, this represents just half of a percent of revenue, where a typical benchmark might be 1% or more. Hormozi notes that despite this low spending, anecdotal evidence shows half of all clients cite Google as their source. This suggests that the Google channel, whether organic or paid, is performing well and indicates significant underinvestment. By tracking attribution from the moment a client walks in, the business can clearly see which marketing dollars are yielding returns, making it possible to confidently increase ad spend and fuel growth rather than risk underinvesting in effective channels.
A robust lead follow-up system ensures all potential bookings are maximized. Hormozi recommends hiring a dedicated employee at $40,000 per year to call every new lead within one minute of inquiry. This immediate personal contact often recovers bookings that might otherwise be abandoned, converting them into confirmed appointments. The expected return on this dedicated follow-up is two to three times the salary investment.
The follow-up script is simple and focused: the caller references the customer’s attempt to book—"Hey, we saw you were trying to book an appointment, it didn’t go through"—and confirms their interest in the $99 promo. The conversation moves directly to securing payment details: “What card do you want to use?” If there’s hesitation about giving out card information, the caller reassures wit ...
Customer Acquisition Attribution and Lead Follow-Up
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