In this episode of The Game w/ Alex Hormozi, Alex Hormozi advises Kaleb on scaling his roofing business to $10 million in revenue. Hormozi identifies door-to-door sales as the primary growth engine, emphasizing the predictable conversion rates and controllable revenue that make this approach reliable. The conversation explores a strategic shift from high-ticket roof replacements to high-volume repairs, which offer better margins and more frequent sales opportunities while building customer relationships that can lead to larger projects.
Hormozi outlines strategies for systematizing sales processes through video sales letters and consultative selling, developing operational infrastructure with custom ERP systems, and building recurring revenue through maintenance membership programs. The discussion covers practical topics including commission structures, pricing optimization, team expansion, and customer retention tactics. Hormozi emphasizes that treating salespeople recruitment as seriously as customer acquisition will be critical to achieving aggressive growth targets.

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Alex Hormozi and Kaleb agree that door-to-door (D2D) sales should be the primary growth engine for Kaleb's roofing business. Kaleb's methodology demonstrates impressive reliability—he closes one sale for every 20 doors knocked, providing predictable and controllable revenue. Hormozi emphasizes that this ability to generate income on demand gives entrepreneurs critical resilience to overcome challenges and sustain growth when other revenue sources falter.
The D2D team operates on a straightforward commission structure: salespeople earn $400 (10% commission) for every $4,000 repair sale, plus $10 per door knocked. Hormozi notes that this direct link between activity and earnings keeps motivation high and aligns individual effort with company growth.
Kaleb's first hire, Alejandro, proved that the conversion ratio is replicable, enabling aggressive expansion. The scaling roadmap moves from one person to four or five, then to nine or more salespeople. Hormozi stresses treating salespeople as new high-value customers and recruiting accordingly. Kaleb confirms that adding just a few more salespeople and a project manager would make reaching $7-10 million in revenue very achievable.
A significant shift is occurring in Kaleb's business model—moving away from costly roof replacements to focus on high-volume repairs. While replacement jobs offer higher dollar values with about $7,000 gross profit, repair jobs provide a robust 64% gross margin, translating to $1,100 profit from an average $1,500 repair ticket. Hormozi points out that most competitors ignore this repair segment, creating a substantial opportunity for Kaleb to dominate an underserved market.
The real advantage lies in volume and frequency. Repairs can be performed much more frequently than replacements, creating consistent cash flow and active sales pipelines. Beyond immediate revenue, repairs serve as effective entry points for building customer relationships. After completing a repair, salespeople gain credibility and "the right" to quote on larger projects when replacement needs eventually arise.
To maximize profitability, Hormozi suggests optimizing repair pricing through comprehensive packages that could boost average tickets from $1,500 to $4,000 or more. With the ability to complete multiple repairs per day—thanks to shorter sales cycles and less administrative complexity—companies can maintain steady cash flow while keeping operational burdens minimal. This transformation effectively turns routine maintenance into a scalable and highly profitable revenue engine.
The proposed sales process uses video sales letters (VSLs), prescriptive consultations, and strategic upselling to increase customer trust and boost ticket sizes. The first VSL is delivered after the door-to-door interaction but before Amanda's onboarding call. It builds credibility through social proof, addresses common objections, and positions proper roofing as a long-term investment that increases home value. A second VSL clarifies repair needs, dispels myths about necessary versus optional repairs, and prepares customers to see bundled services as logical rather than upselling.
Amanda's consultation script emphasizes a trust-building approach. She assesses customer needs carefully, making it clear she won't prescribe unnecessary services. This differentiates her from typical upsellers and builds credibility. Once she prescribes services based on inspections, she uses assumptive close questions like "Which solution do you prefer?" rather than asking if clients want additional services.
Amanda also deploys the "mini close" strategy to bundle multiple repairs into one visit. Since the team is already on site with equipment deployed, addressing multiple issues simultaneously becomes a convenient, logical choice for customers. Hormozi emphasizes that while the first sale is difficult, additional sales become much easier once trust is established and the team is working on the property.
Kaleb invested in a custom ERP system designed specifically for his roofing repair business. This tailored system manages jobs, tracks inventory, and coordinates schedules, enabling him to complete three to five services daily. When two technicians work simultaneously, the system allows them to handle six to eight jobs per day, doubling capacity without demanding additional personal time from Kaleb.
The compensation structure includes 10% commission on repair sales, directly linking salesperson income to company profitability. Kaleb also offers a "20% priority boost"—customers who want faster scheduling can pay an extra 20% to move their job to the front of the line, maximizing revenue during high-demand periods while maintaining service capacity.
As the business expands, Hormozi advises treating salespeople as a new customer avatar. Recruiting quality door-to-door sales staff becomes as vital as acquiring customers. Kaleb's managerial focus shifts increasingly to recruitment, onboarding, tracking sales activities, and preparing for future waves of growth that will unlock continued success.
Kaleb's maintenance membership program, branded as the VIP or Diamond Roofing Program, costs $180-$240 annually and includes an annual roof inspection and preventive maintenance. This creates predictable recurring revenue and regular customer touchpoints. To make enrollment more enticing, Kaleb offers a generous 2:1 match repair credit—for every $1 paid toward membership, the company credits $2 toward future repairs. This creates strong incentives for customers to use the company for larger repair jobs when issues are discovered during inspections.
To overcome cost objections and build reputation, Kaleb reduces the membership fee from $500 to $200 if customers leave a Google review. An automated workflow requests feedback after completed work, generating a steady stream of positive reviews. Kaleb also emphasizes relationship maintenance by calling past members every six months to a year, using detailed notes that include personal details to personalize interactions. This diligent follow-up converts past customers into repeat buyers and generates valuable referrals.
Kaleb ensures each home is left cleaner than when the crew arrived and immediately requests Google reviews after job completion. This meticulous attention to service details, combined with visible customer satisfaction, enables the company to justify premium pricing while building credibility that attracts new business.
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Alex Hormozi and Kaleb agree that going all in on door-to-door (D2D) sales is the most effective approach for driving primary growth in their business. By focusing resources and tweaking the process for direct outreach, Kaleb has achieved meaningful progress, setting his company up for scalable expansion.
Kaleb's sales method has a high level of predictability and reliability: on average, he makes one sale for every 20 doors he knocks on. Hormozi highlights the significance of this—if Kaleb wants to generate income, he can simply knock on more doors, making revenue both predictable and controllable. This high close rate provides a substantial advantage for consistent customer acquisition.
Hormozi emphasizes that this reliable ability to generate money as needed gives entrepreneurs critical resilience. Unlike many who struggle to find ways to quickly produce cash flow, Kaleb's approach ensures the business can always fall back on D2D sales to overcome roadblocks and sustain ongoing growth. This repeatable, actionable outreach becomes a survival tool, bolstering both confidence and operational stability.
The D2D team is incentivized with a straightforward commission structure: salespeople earn $400, or 10%, for every $4,000 repair sale they close. Broken down, this means that for every 40-50 doors knocked—given varying close rates—salespeople see their efforts translate directly into increased earnings.
Hormozi points out that this system makes compensation clear and motivating: want to make $10? Knock a door. Want to make more? Knock even more doors. The link between activity and earning potential is immediate and transparent, aligning individual motivation with company growth.
Door-To-door Sales as Primary Growth Engine
A significant business model shift is occurring in the roofing industry, moving away from prioritizing costly roof replacements to focusing on high-volume repairs. This approach creates a more predictable and sustainable revenue engine that competitors have largely abandoned, offering a substantial competitive advantage.
Traditionally, roofing companies have concentrated on full roof replacements due to their higher ticket values, with average gross profits of around $7,000. However, as Alex Hormozi and Kaleb discuss, the gross profit margin for repair jobs is about 64%, translating to $1,100 gross profit from an average $1,500 repair ticket. While lower in dollar value per job, the significant margin and volume capacities for repairs present a powerful business opportunity.
By reimagining repairs as a core offering, the roofing company can capture a substantial market that others overlook or dismiss as less lucrative. Hormozi points out that if the average repair ticket could be increased—potentially to $2,000, $3,000, or even $4,000—this neglected sector could yield high revenue simply due to the sheer number of jobs possible. Unlike replacements, repairs can be performed in higher volume, leading to more consistent cash flow and revenue reliability.
While replacement jobs command high gross profits, repairs offer surprisingly robust margins. Kaleb confirms a 64% gross margin on repair work and demonstrates that raising the average repair ticket even modestly could approach the gross profit of replacements if the job volume triples.
As Hormozi notes, most competitors ignore the repair segment, leaving a large and underserved market. By orienting operations around efficient, high-quality repairs, Caleb's business can exploit this void, scaling rapidly without the administrative and financial headaches tied to insurance claims and delayed payments for full replacements.
Offering repairs not only generates immediate revenue, but it also serves as an effective entry point for sales teams. By solving a customer's immediate need through a repair, the salesperson gains trust and credibility, positioning themselves as the client's go-to roofing expert.
This relationship allows salespeople the unique opportunity to later quote on larger projects, including full roof replacements and premium roofing services, when the need arises. Hormozi describes this as a natural upsell motion: initial repair work earns the salesperson “the right” to pursue more extensive future work.
Kaleb agrees that repair opportunities are much more frequent than replacements, helping the sales pipeline stay active and predictable. This ongoing client engagement builds trust, making it easier to land significant projects when high- ...
Business Model Shift From Replacements to High-Volume Repairs
The proposed sales process for roofing services is designed to increase customer trust, educate prospects, and boost average ticket sizes through a structured sequence of video sales letters (VSLs), prescriptive consultations, and strategic upselling.
The initial VSL is delivered right after the door-to-door interaction and prior to Amanda's onboarding call. Its purpose is to prime prospects for the upsell and advance them through the sales funnel by building trust and confidence in the company's roofing solutions. The video starts with a compelling introduction, promising to explain how homeowners can achieve an amazing roof and avoid pain points they've likely encountered before.
It builds credibility using social proof, showcasing stories from satisfied customers within the prospect's community who own similar or bigger houses. By illustrating the "old way" versus the "Special K process," the VSL positions the company's approach as a modern, superior alternative to traditional roofing services.
Objections are addressed preemptively by identifying common doubts and systematically breaking those beliefs with facts and further social proof (e.g., testimonials and statistics). The VSL also argues that investing in proper roofing is a long-term asset, raising home resale value and enhancing daily living—making immediate service not just necessary repair but a savvy financial move.
Before the onboarding call with Amanda, a second VSL is employed to guide prospects through distinguishing between essential and optional repairs. This video dispels common myths, educates customers on real versus perceived issues, and underscores the long-term value of comprehensive roofing solutions. It reframes additional repairs as proactive home care rather than upselling, preparing customers to see bundled services as logical and beneficial.
Amanda's approach emphasizes a consultative, trust-building process. She assesses customer needs in detail, making it clear she will not prescribe unnecessary services. This method differentiates her from typical upsellers and increases trust as clients recognize that recommendations are tailored to their home’s real requirements.
Once Amanda prescribes needed services post-inspection, she transitions to an assumptive close u ...
Sales Process Systematization
Caleb's Roofing Repairs demonstrates the importance of a dedicated operational scaling infrastructure to support growth and efficiency. By implementing a customized CRM or ERP system and focusing on incentives and sales team recruitment, Caleb successfully manages increased job volume, streamlines operations, and prepares for further expansion.
Caleb shares that he invested in a custom ERP system designed specifically for his roofing repair business. This tailored CRM allows him to manage jobs in a way that suits his operations, improving daily service tracking and technician handoffs. With this infrastructure, Caleb currently completes three to five services daily.
The CRM system is key to organizing the workflow. With the repair technician in place, Caleb can handle three to five jobs daily, and the system ensures smooth transitions between technicians. When two technicians are working together—such as the original technician’s brother filling in during a surgery absence—Caleb expects to scale up to six to eight services per day. This efficient coordination directly boosts revenue without demanding additional personal time from Caleb.
When both technicians are available, the CRM enables them to handle double the workload efficiently. This jump from three to five to six to eight daily jobs is possible due to precise job management, inventory tracking, and schedule coordination. The result is increased capacity and earnings without overburdening Caleb.
Compensation policies play a crucial role in aligning staff motivation with business success. Caleb has implemented a commission system to incentivize and reward performance.
Salespeople receive a 10% commission on repair sales, directly linking their income to company profitability. This structure motivates sales staff to close more deals while ensuring their interests are aligned with overall business growth.
Caleb also introduces a speed incentive known as the "20% priority boost." Customers who want their repairs completed by the end of the week can pay an extra 20%, moving their job to the front of the line. This maximizes revenue during periods of high demand while maintaining service capacity ...
Operational Scaling Infrastructure
Recurring revenue and customer retention are at the core of Caleb’s roofing business strategy. The approach involves a maintenance membership program designed not only to generate steady income but to establish regular touchpoints, enhance relationships, and fuel upselling opportunities.
Caleb’s maintenance membership, branded as the VIP or Diamond Roofing Program, costs customers $180-$240 per year (or $15-$20 per month, billed annually), with pricing flexibly adjusted for local markets. This program provides an annual roof inspection and preventive maintenance, ensuring customers' roofs are checked regularly and necessary upkeep is performed. This structure ensures predictable, recurring revenue while creating consistent, scheduled contact with clients.
To make the membership more enticing, Caleb offers a generous 2:1 match repair credit: for every $1 paid toward the membership, the company credits $2 toward any future repairs. This not only encourages customers to sign up for the program but also creates strong incentives for them to use the company for larger, more profitable repair jobs when issues are discovered during inspections. These touchpoints provide natural upselling moments for additional services.
Recognizing cost objections, Caleb implements an incentive: if the customer leaves a Google review, the annual membership fee drops from $500 to $200. This “carrot” strategy both increases sign-ups and cultivates a strong online reputation through a steady stream of positive reviews, powered by an automated workflow that requests feedback after completed work.
Caleb also emphasizes relationship building. He calls past members every six months to a year, using detailed notes—including personal details such as the wellbeing of their children—to personalize these interactions. This di ...
Customer Retention and Recurring Revenue
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