In this episode of The Game w/ Alex Hormozi, Alex Hormozi advises entrepreneur Mim Jenkinson on scaling her digital product business from $1M to $3M. Hormozi examines Mim's current business model and suggests strategic changes across pricing structure, customer acquisition funnels, and ad creative production to increase revenue and profitability.
The conversation covers practical tactics including restructuring membership offers to increase average order value, reframing bootcamps as trial funnels to boost conversion rates, and scaling ad creative production from a handful of assets to hundreds of variations. Hormozi also introduces the Five Levels of Awareness framework to help Mim expand her audience targeting beyond warm prospects, explaining how different messaging strategies can access larger, colder audiences while maintaining conversion performance. Throughout, Hormozi emphasizes data-driven decision-making and removing arbitrary spending limits that restrict growth.

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Mim Jenkinson describes how switching from offering both monthly and annual memberships to an annual-only model tripled adoption rates from 10% to 30%, effectively doubling average order value. Following Alex Hormozi's advice, she adds a $149 sticker kit (costing only $20 to fulfill) as a limited-time bonus to create urgency and justify the premium annual price.
Hormozi suggests repositioning the bootcamp as a trial funnel by automatically enrolling all attendees into a $27 monthly membership with the ability to cancel. This approach increases conversion from 22% to as high as 55%, exposing the entire challenge audience to the full membership experience. Post-purchase upsells, including a $47 course converting at 30%, further maximize revenue per customer and offset acquisition costs.
The financial dynamics of Mim's current funnel show that acquiring 100 bootcamp attendees costs $3,700, generating $3,500 in revenue—nearly breaking even. However, only 22% convert to membership, limiting returns. By reframing the funnel as trial-based, all 100 attendees enter membership, and with 55% conversion, total returns jump from approximately $10,000 to $16,000, representing a 50%-60% profit lift. This combined approach of annual-only offers, bootcamp-as-trial funnels, and post-purchase upselling systematically increases conversion rates, order values, and long-term revenue.
Hormozi emphasizes that creative teams should produce hundreds of ad assets, not just a handful. Static variations using AI tools, community screenshots, and repurposed content should number in the hundreds. He notes that authentic user-generated content—such as community members posting sticker images—consistently outperforms professional creative. Hormozi recommends incentivizing new members to film their sticker creation process within the first week, offering a "super secret sticker set" reward. This approach generates immediate, authentic ad content while increasing early customer engagement.
Hormozi suggests taking the top 20 highest-converting ads and reimagining each in four distinct visual contexts, rapidly producing 80 new variations while maintaining strong message-market fit. Recording and deploying testimonial and teaching content ads increases audience connection, and Hormozi encourages Mim to extract video clips from her bootcamp Q&A sessions to repurpose for ads and organic social content without extra production effort.
To access larger, colder audiences, Hormozi explains that the creative mix should be dominated by pain-based hooks targeting issues like boredom or lack of creativity. These emotionally resonant messages attract people who aren't yet solution-aware but share pressing pain points. As campaigns evolve and budgets scale, messaging should transition from pain-based hooks toward problem- and solution-aware messaging, preventing ad fatigue and maintaining effective lead generation across all awareness levels.
Hormozi advocates allocating only 5-10% of total budget in the first week exclusively to test new creatives. Once effective creatives are identified, weeks 2-3 become the optimal scaling window, deploying 60-70% of the launch budget to maximize exposure before audience fatigue sets in. The remaining 15-25% is held for the final week, with about 50% concentrated in the last three days to capture late purchasers responding to urgency.
Hormozi challenges the habit of capping customer acquisition costs too conservatively. Mim shares that she often limited her CPA to $50 without strong rationale, later regretting missed revenue opportunities. Hormozi points out that one bootcamp attendee generates $391 per customer, meaning even a $100 acquisition cost is highly profitable. He encourages analyzing actual conversion data and aligning spend more closely with what drives profitable growth rather than arbitrary CPA caps.
Hormozi emphasizes that the primary growth lever is increasing the volume of bootcamp entrants, not further reducing acquisition costs. To support volume scaling without triggering ad fatigue, producing numerous creative variations and expanding audience targeting is critical. Creating 800+ ad variations enables scaling spend toward larger targets while maintaining strong profit and conversion rates.
Hormozi introduces Eugene Schwartz's Five Levels of Awareness framework, explaining that every person in a market falls into one of five awareness categories, from most aware to unaware. Ads perform best with warm audiences, but to scale, marketers must reach larger, colder audiences not yet aware of their problems or solutions.
To scale beyond warm audiences, Hormozi advises transitioning from product-specific hooks to pain-based messaging that addresses emotional or practical frustrations. Examples include hooks like "Are you bored?" or "Do you not know what to do?" This approach opens up the top of the funnel by addressing latent frustrations. Hormozi stresses maintaining a balance between pain-point hooks and product-based hooks to prevent performance drops as campaigns scale.
Hormozi emphasizes avatar segmentation—targeting specific audience segments with customized creative variations rather than broad-appeal messaging. He uses the analogy of "draining a hundred ponds and not the ocean," suggesting scale is achieved through numerous segmented audiences with tailored messages. Mim acknowledges limited experience with segmentation beyond separating mothers and grandmothers, and Hormozi encourages experimenting with different callouts that resonate deeply with each segment's identity and challenges.
1-Page Summary
Mim Jenkinson describes transitioning from offering both monthly and annual membership options to an annual-only model, following advice from Alex Hormozi. Prior to the switch, about 10% of customers chose the annual membership. When only the annual option was promoted, the adoption rate tripled, reaching 30%. Mim emphasizes that this shift had a substantial and immediate impact, effectively doubling the average order value.
To further elevate perceived value, Hormozi suggests including a $149 sticker paper kit as a bonus for annual subscribers. While the actual cost to fulfill and ship the kit is around $20, presenting it as a high-value, limited-time bonus ("available only during the event") creates urgency and justifies a premium annual price. Mim agrees, noting buyers are more likely to commit for a year if receiving all essential materials and exclusive bonuses.
A bootcamp or challenge is positioned as a trial funnel to membership. Instead of merely promoting membership post-challenge, every bootcamp attendee is automatically enrolled into a $27 per month membership (with the ability to opt out/cancel). This approach boosts conversion from 22% to as high as 55%, effectively moving the entire challenge audience into the membership funnel and exposing them to the full experience.
Post-purchase upsells are integral to the strategy. There is currently a $47 course as a bump offer following purchase, converting at 30%. Additional digital products can be offered as interchangeable upsells, maximizing the revenue per customer and offsetting customer acquisition costs. Hormozi advises further that tools, materials, or “secret society” communities can be sold on the back end, multiplying total revenue from each segment of the funnel.
The financial dynamics of Mim’s current acquisition funnel show specific challenges and opportunities. Typically, acquiring 100 paid bootcamp attendees costs $3,700 ($37 per attendee). These attendees generate $3,500 in revenue from bootcamp ticket sales, nearly breaking even but often leaving only $200 to acquire subsequent 22% membership conversions. Each member has a projected $300 lifetime value, yet only a minority of the audience converts.
By reframing the funnel into a trial-based model, all 100 attendees enter the membership, and with realistic expectations ...
Offer Structure and Pricing Strategy
Alex Hormozi emphasizes that creative teams should think in terms of producing hundreds of ad assets, not just a handful. Static ad variations are essential and should number in the hundreds, leveraging AI tools, community screenshots, and repurposing high-performing existing assets. Hormozi points out that making static ads is fast and scalable, especially when using group screenshots as ad content; every unique sticker image or creation shared by the community can be turned into an ad asset. This approach eliminates the constraint of just testing two images or videos, which severely limits profitable scaling.
Authentic, cost-free ads derived from user-generated content—such as community members posting images of stickers they’ve made—consistently outperform polished, professional creative. To further drive creative generation and ensure prompt onboarding, Hormozi recommends incentivizing new members to film their sticker creation process within the first week. This "super secret sticker set" (SSSS) reward for sharing their process not only generates immediate, highly authentic ad content but also increases customer engagement early in their journey. With each customer encouraged to create a sticker and share their experience, every launch can quickly produce hundreds of unique ad creatives for reevaluation and scaling.
Hormozi suggests systematically scaling proven winners: take the top 20 highest-converting ads from previous campaigns and reimagine each in four distinct visual contexts—such as changing backgrounds, T-shirts, or settings. This method produces 80 new variations rapidly, maintaining a strong message-market fit while amplifying reach and testing potential.
Additionally, recording and deploying a broad set (e.g. 80) of testimonial and teaching content ads increases audience connection and leverages message repetition across various contexts. These authentic testimonials and lessons allow for granular audience testing and continuous optimization.
Mim Jenkinson notes that her bootcamp Q&A sessions are her only live connections with customers, but these sessions are a goldmine for creative content; Hormozi encourages her to extract video clips from these unscripted moments to repurpose for ad creative and organic social content. These authentic teaching moments require no extra production effort, offering not only pieces for social engagement but ...
Ad Creative Production and Strategy
Optimizing ad spend is fundamental to maximizing profit during product launches. Alex Hormozi and Mim Jenkinson discuss in detail how carefully structured spend cadence and a clear understanding of unit economics can unlock far greater returns.
Hormozi advocates starting with disciplined creative testing, allocating only 5-10% of total budget in the first week exclusively to test new ad creatives. This measured start ensures only the highest-performing creatives move forward.
Once effective creatives are identified, the optimal scaling window emerges in weeks 2-3, deploying 60-70% of the launch budget. The goal is to maximize exposure with proven creative assets while they are fresh and before audience fatigue sets in. Spending flattens and ramps up in intensity during this period, capitalizing on momentum.
The remaining 15-25% of ad budget is held for the final launch week. Crucially, about 50% of that is concentrated in the last three days, targeting late purchasers and taking advantage of last-minute urgency. This back-loading works to drive a final surge in conversions and capture buyers who respond to deadlines.
Hormozi challenges the common habit of capping customer acquisition costs (CPAs) too conservatively. Mim Jenkinson shares that she often limited her CPA to $50—without a strong rationale—driven by caution rather than clear data, and later regretted not investing more each time. Hormozi points out that such self-imposed limits often cause missed revenue opportunities.
He encourages analyzing actual conversion data and total revenue per customer. One bootcamp attendee generates $391 per customer, meaning that even a $100 customer acquisition cost is highly profitable before any upsells are considered. With a 22% conversion rate, the economics justify pushing acquisition costs higher, provided profit margins are protected and conversion mechanics remain robust.
This approach requires business owners to shed arbitrary CPA caps and align spend more closely with what truly drives profitable growth.
Hormozi emphasizes that the primary lever ...
Traffic Scaling and Ad Spend Optimization
Alex Hormozi introduces Eugene Schwartz’s Five Levels of Awareness framework, which states that every person in a market falls into one of five categories of awareness: from most aware (the smallest, warmest group closest to the offer) to unaware (the coldest, largest audience). Ads perform best with warm audiences who already know about the product or offer, but to scale, marketers must reach out to larger, colder audiences who are not yet aware of their problems or the solutions. Hormozi notes that while creative ad approaches that engage audiences and build awareness can work, they lack scalability if they don’t connect to a clear problem-solving rationale.
Hormozi advises that to scale an advertising campaign beyond the bottom-of-funnel warm audiences, ads should transition from product- or offer-specific hooks to pain-based messaging. Pain-based messaging focuses on the emotional or practical frustrations that top-funnel, cold audiences experience—even those unaware of the product or solution category. Examples of such hooks might include “Are you bored?” or “Do you not know what to do?” This kind of messaging opens up the top of the funnel by addressing latent frustrations and drawing new audiences into the conversation.
Notably, Hormozi stresses the importance of maintaining a balance: as campaigns scale, it’s crucial to mix pain-point hooks with product- or offer-based hooks to prevent performance drops that come from relying solely on either approach. Understanding specific customer pain points enables the crafting of authentic, relevant messages that far outperform generic hooks, and this is especially important for brands seeking to expand upmarket despite possible skepticism.
In addressing broad cold audiences, Hormozi emphasizes the need for avatar segmentation—targeting specific audience segments with customized creative variations, rat ...
Audience Targeting and Five Levels of Awareness Framework
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