Day 2 From My $105M Book Launch | Ep 953
In this episode of The Game, Alex Hormozi and his co-hosts explore key business strategies for growth and revenue generation. The discussion covers innovative pricing approaches, including "pay-what-you-want" models and tiered bonus systems, as well as methods for demonstrating value to customers through client outcome data rather than competing on price.
The conversation also delves into practical aspects of business scaling, from optimizing sales processes and lead generation to hiring effective operators and creating sustainable revenue streams. Hormozi and the other speakers address ways to position businesses uniquely in the market, emphasizing the importance of measurable outcomes and brand reputation through testimonials and case studies.
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Pricing and Monetization Strategies
Alex Hormozi and other hosts discuss innovative approaches to pricing and attracting customers. Hormozi suggests implementing "pay-what-you-want" models with free initial products to enhance customer control and goodwill. He recommends a tiered bonus system where larger contributions receive additional perks, creating value without pressure. To demonstrate service value, Hormozi advises using client outcome data and case studies rather than competing on price, emphasizing long-term savings over upfront costs.
Lead Generation and Sales Optimization
The speakers emphasize the importance of streamlining sales processes for new representatives. Hormozi recommends creating clear, simple sales scripts and using technology for lead management. He suggests focusing on high-value leads by filtering out low-value prospects early and targeting clients who can afford premium services. The discussion highlights the importance of developing strong referral networks and partnership channels for quality lead generation.
Business Growth and Scaling
Leila and Alex Hormozi discuss critical aspects of business scaling, emphasizing the importance of hiring complementary talent. They suggest prioritizing operators who excel in leadership and influence over technical skills, enabling founders to focus on strategy. Alex Hormozi recommends creating subscription services or membership models for stable revenue, while also exploring opportunities to license business systems to others. The speakers stress the importance of leveraging the existing customer base for cross-selling and upselling opportunities.
Positioning a Business and Avoiding Commoditization
Alex Hormozi explains strategies for unique business positioning and value communication. He recommends using specific, observable language to describe measurable outcomes and focusing on speed, ease, or risk reduction rather than price. The speakers emphasize strengthening brand reputation through testimonials, case studies, and data demonstration of expertise. Hormozi suggests positioning as an industry authority through conference speaking engagements and comprehensive client result documentation.
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- "Pay-what-you-want" models may not be suitable for all types of businesses, especially those with high fixed costs or those that operate in industries with less price elasticity.
- Tiered bonus systems could potentially alienate customers who may feel that they are not receiving full value because they cannot afford larger contributions.
- Relying solely on client outcome data and case studies might not capture the full spectrum of a product's value, especially for new or innovative products where long-term data is not yet available.
- Overly simplified sales scripts risk losing the nuance and personalization that can be crucial in complex sales or relationship-driven businesses.
- Technology for lead management can sometimes depersonalize the sales process, which may be off-putting for some prospects who prefer a more human touch.
- Focusing exclusively on high-value leads could cause a business to overlook smaller clients who have the potential to grow and become more valuable over time.
- Strong referral networks and partnership channels are valuable, but they can also create dependency, and there may be a risk of neglecting direct marketing and sales efforts.
- Hiring for leadership and influence skills is important, but undervaluing technical skills can lead to operational inefficiencies or a lack of innovation.
- Subscription services and membership models may not be preferred by all customers, and some may resist recurring payments for certain types of products or services.
- Licensing business systems can be complex and may dilute a brand if not managed carefully, especially if licensees do not maintain quality standards.
- Cross-selling and upselling to the existing customer base can be effective, but there is a risk of customer fatigue or backlash if perceived as too aggressive.
- Using specific, observable language is important, but it must be balanced with the need to inspire and engage customers on an emotional level, which can sometimes require less tangible language.
- Focusing on speed, ease, or risk reduction over price assumes that all customers prioritize these factors equally, which may not be the case.
- Testimonials and case studies are useful, but they can sometimes lack credibility if not backed by independent reviews or broader market data.
- Positioning as an industry authority is beneficial, but it requires a significant investment of time and resources that may not be feasible for all businesses, especially smaller ones.
Actionables
- You can start a small-scale community barter system to practice the "pay-what-you-want" model in a familiar environment. Begin by offering a service or product you can provide, like tutoring, baked goods, or handcrafted items, without a set price. Encourage participants to contribute what they feel is fair or trade with services or goods they can offer. This will give you firsthand experience in assessing the value of your offering and understanding the dynamics of such a pricing model.
- Develop a personal reward system for your daily tasks to simulate a tiered bonus system. Assign different levels of rewards for completing tasks of varying difficulty or importance in your daily life. For example, finishing a challenging workout could earn you a movie night, while completing a work project ahead of schedule might warrant a small purchase you've been wanting. This helps you understand how to set up and motivate with a tiered system.
- Create a personal progress tracker to document and analyze your own outcomes, similar to using client outcome data. Whether it's for fitness goals, learning a new skill, or improving productivity, keep detailed records of your starting point, progress milestones, and the strategies that helped you succeed. Share your journey and results with friends or on social media to get a feel for how showcasing achievements can influence and motivate others.
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Pricing and Monetization Strategies
The hosts, Alex Hormozi and others, discuss innovative pricing and monetization strategies to create goodwill and attract buyers, while showcasing valuable services through outcome-focused proof.
Use Money-Back Guarantees and "Pick Your Price" Options to Create Goodwill and Attract Buyers
Free Product With Pay-what-You-want Boosts Customer Control
Alex Hormozi shows that businesses offering a free product with a pay-what-you-want model enhance customer control. For instance, a free car wash, lemonade, or a 21-day weight loss program where the customer decides their payment amount can spur good will and potentially higher payments. He notes that this strategy boosts customer control and provides an opportunity to vet long-term candidates through pointed questions.
Tiered Bonuses Boost Payments and Offer Free Option
Hormozi suggests a tiered bonus system, where larger contributions receive additional perks, such as one-on-one consultations or access to premium software like ACQ AI. He details a tiered system for donations, including a lemonade stand offering upsells and car washes with additional services based on the donation amount. This can also extend to weight loss programs with extra services varying by price tier.
"Pick Your Price" Avoids Pressure
The "Pick Your Price" approach is designed to alleviate customer pressure by allowing them to select how much they want to pay. Hormozi explains that this sets up a sliding scale with no maximum and is marketed as free but offers the opportunities to pay more, associated with greater benefits. This model allows payments to be perceived as benefitting employees rather than the business, thereby inducing a higher sense of contribution.
Showcase Valuable Services With Case Studies and Outcome-Focused Proof
Show Value: Use Client Outcome and Earnings Data Instead of Competing On Price
Alex Hormozi advises using statistics and logical arguments to showcase service value, emphasizing long-term savings over upfront costs. He recommends deploying a "discount plus one-time fee" structure to offset acquisition costs while attracting clients with discounts. He further suggests testimonials as a means of proving value, which can build pricing power with sufficient evidence of a service's value.
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- Pay-what-you-want models may not be suitable for all types of businesses, especially those with high fixed costs or low margins.
- Tiered bonuses could potentially alienate customers who cannot afford higher tiers, creating a perceived inequality in service or product quality.
- "Pick Your Price" strategies might lead to underpricing, where customers pay less than the value of the service or product, affecting profitability.
- Showcasing service value through client outcomes and earnings data may not always be possible due to confidentiality agreements or inconsistent results.
- Client case studies, while valuable, may not always represent the average customer experience and could set unrealistic expectations.
- Focusing solely on value a ...
Actionables
- You can create a personalized thank-you video for customers who choose their own price, reinforcing the value they receive and encouraging them to share their experience. By recording a short video expressing gratitude for their purchase and highlighting how their contribution supports your business, you create a personal touch that can lead to increased customer loyalty and word-of-mouth promotion.
- Start a referral program that rewards customers for bringing in new clients based on the outcomes they've achieved with your service. For example, if a customer refers a friend who then becomes a paying client, offer them a discount or a free add-on service. This strategy leverages the satisfaction of existing customers to attract new ones, emphasizing the real-world impact of your services.
- Develop a simple feedback form that customers can fill out aft ...
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Lead Generation and Sales Optimization
Alex Hormozi and other speakers discuss effective strategies for optimizing lead generation and sales processes.
Streamline Sales for Newer Reps to Succeed
Enabling new sales representatives to swiftly become productive is a critical component of sales optimization.
Create a Clear, Simple Sales Script
Hormozi advises creating a clear, simple sales script to make the sales process easier. This allows for quicker onboarding and training of sales reps and enables less skilled individuals to succeed.
Quickly Onboard and Train Sales Reps to Boost Productivity
Rapidly onboarding and training new sales representatives is vital, as suggested by a speaker's mention of hiring two sales closers. Simplifying the sales process into key questions allows for shortening the training period and better managing performance.
Use Tech and Automation For Lead Flow Management and Follow-Up
Using technology and automation for lead flow management and follow-ups is recommended. For instance, showing pricing in advance or using a questionnaire can streamline the sales process and pre-screen prospects. Hormozi also mentions employing automation tools like Zapier or make.com to gather comprehensive business breakdowns as part of the sales process.
Focus Sales on High-Value Leads and Customers
Sales efforts should concentrate on high-value leads that can result in significant revenue growth.
Filter Low-value Leads Earlier
Filtering out low-value leads early in the sales process is key. Hormozi advises creating more friction in the sales funnel to pre-qualify leads and employing techniques like lead scoring to prioritize high-quality prospects.
Target High-Revenue Clients Who Can Afford Premium Services
Targeting high-revenue clients who can afford premium services should be a core strategy. Hormozi stresses the importance of appealing to this demographic, which may involve tactics like offering a high anchor price to make other options appear more attractive and tailoring advertising to sp ...
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- While a clear, simple sales script can help with onboarding, it may not be suitable for all sales situations, especially complex or consultative sales environments where scripts can seem inauthentic.
- Rapid onboarding and training might overlook the depth of knowledge required to truly understand the product or service, potentially leading to a workforce that is ill-equipped to handle more nuanced customer inquiries.
- Over-reliance on technology and automation could lead to a depersonalized customer experience and may not be as effective for building long-term customer relationships.
- Filtering out low-value leads early might result in missed opportunities, as some leads that initially appear low-value could be nurtured into high-value customers over time.
- Exclusively targeting high-revenue clients could alienate a significant portion of the market and might not be a viable strategy for busine ...
Actionables
- You can streamline your sales approach by role-playing with a friend to refine your pitch. Practice with someone unfamiliar with your product or service to ensure your script is understandable to a newcomer. They can provide feedback on clarity and simplicity, helping you to adjust your language and key points for better communication.
- Enhance your lead qualification by creating a scorecard based on your ideal client profile. Assign points to various criteria such as budget, need for your service, decision-making timeline, and company size. This will help you prioritize leads that are more likely to convert, saving you time and increasing your focus on high-value prospects.
- Build a personal CRM sys ...
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Business Growth and Scaling
Alex and Leila Hormozi, along with other contributors, discuss various strategies for businesses to scale and grow successfully.
Hire People Who Complement the Founder's Strengths
Building a business from the ground up is crucial, but as it grows, expanding the team becomes essential.
Seek Operators Who Excel In Leadership, Influence, and Drive
When one caller sought advice on scaling their business from 1,600 PT clients and 35 staff to three or four locations with the aim to reach eight figures, Alex Hormozi suggested hiring a salesperson with previous experience selling to academia. This salesperson should have influence, existing relationships ("the black book"), and the ability to drive sales. He emphasizes that the speed of expansion depends on the ability to onboard and activate new teammates effectively.
Leila Hormozi and another unidentified speaker note that operators should really be people operators. It’s suggested that a founder should look to hire someone similar to themselves as this would likely lead to more effective team leadership. Additionally, Hormozi suggests that being an operator doesn't necessarily mean being highly technical but rather being a people leader with strong influence and a sales background. She recommends looking for someone who is "kind but tough" and organized, with an emphasis on sales skills over technical abilities.
Prioritize People Management Over Technical Skills In Hiring
Leila Hormozi argues that the skill of influencing and managing people is a higher leverage skill than technical skills like project management. The discussion indicates that recruiting an effective sales team is essential for managing operations, enabling the founder to focus more on strategy and opening additional locations to scale the business.
The unidentified speaker talks about having hired their first sales representative, which hints at the business needing to manage roles beyond technical aspects. Hormozi also advises the speaker to hire someone to help with the product delivery, as this is a task that consumes a significant amount of time.
Hire Talent to Manage Operations, Allowing the Founder to Focus On Strategy
Leila Hormozi implies that hiring ahead of lead flow is crucial to prevent the need to turn down work, allowing the founder to maintain focus on their tasks and potentially on strategy. This is part of the recommendation to ensure hiring talent that manages operations.
Expand to Include Recurring, High-Margin Revenue Streams
The second strategy discussed is about creating stable and profitable revenue models.
Create Subscription Services or Membership Models For a Stable Customer Base
Alex Hormozi discusses fee structures, suggesting a big upfront cost followed by a monthly fee, which creates a stable customer base with recurring revenue. This is further emphasized by the example of a 12-week physical therapy program with considerable savings offered the first month followed by a standard fee, establishing a customer base inclined towards ongoing payments.
Another strategy involved a lifetime lower rate after an initial trial period for his school, encouraging subscriptions. He also discusses the possibility of adjusting the price between a one-time payment and the recurring membership fee to balance cash flow and membership numbers.
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- While hiring people who complement the founder's strengths is important, it's also crucial to ensure diversity in thought and approach within the team to avoid groupthink and foster innovation.
- Operators who excel in leadership, influence, and drive are valuable, but it's also important to have team members who are detail-oriented and can manage day-to-day operations effectively.
- Prioritizing people management over technical skills might not be suitable for all roles or industries, especially those that are highly technical or specialized where specific skills are critical for the business's success.
- Hiring talent to manage operations is important, but founders should also ensure they are not too detached from the operations to maintain an understanding of their business and customer needs.
- While recurring, high-margin revenue streams are beneficial, they may not be applicable or sustainable for all types of businesses, and focusing too much on this can lead to neglecting other important aspects of the business.
- Subscription services or membership models can lead to a stable customer base, but they also risk subscription fat ...
Actionables
- You can assess your own strengths and weaknesses by keeping a decision journal. Note down significant decisions you make over a month, the reasoning behind them, and the outcomes. This will help you identify areas where you could benefit from complementary skills in a future hire.
- Develop a simple customer feedback loop to discover what additional services or products your customers might be interested in. This could be as straightforward as a monthly email survey asking for their input on potential offerings, which could inform a subscription or membership model tailored to their needs.
- Explore partnersh ...
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Positioning a Business and Avoiding Commoditization
Businesses need to find ways to position themselves uniquely and create attractive offers for potential clients. By defining and communicating their unique value proposition and strengthening their brand and reputation, businesses can gain power and avoid the pitfall of commoditization.
Clearly Define and Communicate the Unique Value Proposition
According to Alex Hormozi, it's crucial to set up a clear and memorable positioning for a business. For instance, he suggests that giveaways at conferences should be compared to known values to define and communicate the unique value proposition using specific benchmarks. This approach is similar to focusing on the memorability of an experience, rather than on lesser memorable aspects such as food choices.
Using precise and outcome-focused language helps justify higher price points for luxury services. Hormozi also recommends creating a Video Sales Letter (VSL) that communicates the promise, the plan to execute it, and the proof of legitimacy. This can be supported by framing the conversation in terms of the best return on investment rather than the lowest price.
Use Specific, Observable Language to Describe Measurable Outcomes and Benefits
Outcomes and benefits should be communicated using specific, observable language. Hormozi advises using descriptions that are objectively observable and focusing on outcomes that bridge the gap between undesired and desired states. Changing language, like a therapist rebranding as a business coach for entrepreneurs, can radically shift a business's perception and success by resonating more effectively with a target audience.
Focus On Speed, Ease, or Risk Reduction Over Price
Focusing on speed, ease, or risk reduction can significantly differentiate a service in a price-driven market. Hormozi suggests providing guarantees or other offers that show customers that the company will deliver on time and within budget for faster returns on capital. If a business does not wish to raise prices, it can at least eliminate discounts and instead add speed, risk-free offers, or unique value propositions, like a free teeth whitening consultation for Invisalign patients.
Strengthen Brand and Reputation to Gain Power
Strengthening the brand involves using tangible evidence of success to set oneself apart. Including full case studies in an RFP, for example, makes the results and benefits of past successes clear and observable. It's also crucial to set the frame early in conversations or proposals by emphasizing the highest ratio of dollar investment to dollar outcome, to decommoditize oneself.
Use Testimonials, Case Studies, and Data to Demonstrate Expertise and Credibility
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- While defining a unique value proposition is important, it can be challenging for businesses in highly saturated markets to find truly unique aspects, leading to a need for continuous innovation and adaptation.
- Comparing giveaways to known values may not always be effective if the benchmarks used are not valued or recognized by the target audience.
- Precise language and a focus on luxury can alienate some customer segments who may perceive the brand as pretentious or out of touch with their needs.
- A Video Sales Letter (VSL) might not appeal to all demographics or industries, especially where customers prefer more personal, face-to-face interactions or are skeptical of polished marketing materials.
- Describing measurable outcomes and benefits with specific language assumes that all desirable outcomes are quantifiable, which may not be the case for services that offer subjective or emotional benefits.
- Focusing on speed, ease, or risk reduction over price assumes that all customers prioritize these factors over cost, which may not be true for budget-conscious consumers.
- Providing guarantees or offers to show reliability can backfire if the business cannot consistently meet these promises, leading to customer dissatisfaction and damage to the brand.
- Using tangible evidence of success, such as case studies, may not always be possible for new businesses or those with confidentiality agreements that prevent sharing client information.
- Testimonials and case studies can be seen as ...
Actionables
- You can craft a personal branding statement to distinguish yourself in your field by identifying what makes your approach or skills unique and writing a concise statement that encapsulates this. For example, if you're a graphic designer, you might focus on your ability to blend traditional art techniques with modern design, stating, "I merge the timeless beauty of fine art with contemporary digital design to create unique visual experiences."
- Develop a simple feedback form for friends or colleagues to fill out after you've helped them with a task or project, asking them to describe the benefits they observed from your assistance. This can help you understand and articulate the measurable outcomes of your work. For instance, if you helped a friend organize their workspace, the feedback form could prompt them to note how much time they save daily due to the new setup.
- Create a mini-portfolio showcasing your successes, which could be as simple as b ...
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