In this episode of The Diary Of A CEO, Steven Bartlett and Dr. Rachel Rubin address widespread misconceptions about women's hormonal health and sexual function. Dr. Rubin explains how testosterone, estrogen, and progesterone affect women throughout their lives, from menstrual cycles through menopause, and discusses why outdated fears have created a crisis in hormone therapy access. The conversation covers female sexual anatomy—including the often-overlooked clitoris—and explores why most women require clitoral stimulation for orgasm, yet many providers lack basic training in this area.
Bartlett and Dr. Rubin also examine systemic failures in medical education that leave both doctors and patients without essential knowledge about women's bodies. They discuss how lifestyle factors, body image concerns, and insufficient sexual education contribute to relationship challenges, and emphasize the importance of open communication between partners. The episode offers practical insights into treating hormonal symptoms, addressing sexual pain, and reframing intimacy issues as shared challenges rather than individual failures.

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In a conversation between Steven Bartlett and Dr. Rachel Rubin, the two challenge common misconceptions about women's hormones, highlighting how [restricted term], estrogen, and progesterone affect sexual function, mood, and overall health. Despite research advances, many women remain underserved due to outdated beliefs and lack of awareness in both the public and medical communities.
Dr. Rubin emphasizes that [restricted term] is frequently misunderstood as only a "male" hormone, though women's ovaries produce [restricted term] alongside estrogen and progesterone. Contrary to popular belief, women's [restricted term] declines starting in their thirties—not at menopause—leading to reduced libido, delayed orgasm, and decreased arousal. Birth control pills further suppress [restricted term] by preventing ovulation, with studies showing up to 27% of women experiencing marked drops in sex drive. For peri- and postmenopausal women struggling with low libido, [restricted term] therapy can significantly improve sexual satisfaction, arousal, and body image within three to six months, according to robust clinical data.
Hormone levels surge and fall throughout the menstrual cycle, with bleeding corresponding to the lowest estrogen and progesterone levels. As perimenopause begins (typically ages 35-45), progesterone decline causes sleep disturbances, anxiety, and mood changes, while estrogen decline brings hot flashes, night sweats, and bone density loss. Menopause itself represents a "hormonal castration," significantly affecting bone strength, cardiovascular health, and cognitive wellbeing.
Dr. Rubin describes a "disaster" in hormone therapy access. After a misinterpreted 1990s study suggested risks later disproven for women under 70, hormone therapy rates plummeted. Today, over 75% of women who could benefit aren't receiving treatment, with only 1.7% of eligible women receiving prescriptions. Modern hormone therapy can be customized across four domains—estrogen for hot flashes and bone health, progesterone for uterine protection and sleep, [restricted term] for libido, and vaginal hormones for genitourinary symptoms—but should be based on individual symptoms and preferences, not age alone.
Vaginal estrogen and DHEA, used in micro doses, safely treat genitourinary symptoms in women of all ages, including those with cancer, clotting disorders, or stroke history. At just $14 for a 2.5-month supply through some online pharmacies, vaginal estrogen restores healthy bacteria and prevents over half of UTIs in susceptible women. Alternative delivery methods include tablets, three-month rings, and DHEA inserts, offering women convenient options that fit their lifestyles.
Dr. Rubin describes the clitoris as homologous to the penis, containing about 10,000 nerve endings and extending deep into the pelvis. Despite its importance, the word "clitoris" doesn't appear on the 2026 OBGYN training checklist. Rubin notes that clitoral adhesions affect about 23% of women, and when removed through a simple office procedure, sexual satisfaction improves by 60-70%. Most women have never had their clitoris examined during standard checkups, and few providers educate patients about this anatomy.
The majority of women cannot achieve orgasm from vaginal penetration alone because the clitoris—the main center for sexual pleasure—is external. While about 20% of women report being unable to orgasm at all, this is largely due to lack of knowledge rather than dysfunction. Women typically require 13-15 minutes of focused clitoral stimulation to reach orgasm, compared to men's average of five and a half minutes during penetrative sex. This timing mismatch makes mutual orgasm during typical intercourse unrealistic, yet many women fake orgasms to meet partner expectations.
Dr. Rubin emphasizes that sex should not be painful and that persistent pain deserves thorough medical evaluation. Sexual pain can stem from hormone-sensitive vaginal tissue, pelvic floor muscle dysfunction, nerve pain, or internal conditions like endometriosis. Many gynecologists have little training in diagnosing these conditions, so Rubin recommends seeking specialists in pelvic pain. The pelvic floor muscles play a crucial role in sexual function—they must relax for comfortable penetration and contract rhythmically during orgasm. Pelvic floor physical therapy can address dysfunction, enhancing arousal, pleasure, and overall sexual health.
Dr. Rubin and Bartlett discuss how systemic shortcomings in medical education perpetuate poor care for women across all socioeconomic statuses.
Most doctors, including OBGYNs, receive little to no training in women's sexual health and anatomy. The clitoris is completely missing from the 2026 OBGYN training checklist, and medical curricula typically neglect [restricted term]'s role in women's health. Dr. Rubin notes that even privileged women like Melinda Gates, Oprah Winfrey, and Halle Berry have been misdiagnosed—Gates visited three doctors before receiving proper hormone therapy, Oprah saw five before her perimenopausal symptoms were understood, and Berry was misdiagnosed with genital herpes when experiencing menopause symptoms.
Rather than acknowledging gaps in their training, many physicians simply deny women treatments, claiming "you can't have this." Bartlett observes this as paternalistic gatekeeping unique to women's health, contrasting with the open, shared decision-making men receive. Time constraints worsen outcomes, as 10-minute appointments make saying "no" easier than exploring nuanced solutions.
Because healthcare providers lack training, women themselves are deprived of essential knowledge. Most women don't know where their clitoris is, and over 75% of women in large medical databases don't receive prescriptions for vaginal hormones that could prevent life-threatening UTIs. Dr. Rubin observes that women regularly present with sexual pain, low libido, and trouble with orgasm, but clinicians can't diagnose or treat these problems effectively. She emphasizes that education is central: "I think the majority of [sexual] problem is education."
Bartlett and Dr. Rubin argue that healthy relationships require education and honest communication, but most people lack sufficient sexual education and experience shame that hinders open discussion.
Without education on sex and communication, people internalize issues or blame themselves or their partners. Dr. Rubin points out that if people learned about sexual health biology or could comfortably discuss anatomy, much hurt, shame, and guilt could be avoided. Fear of rejection or emasculation prevents many from sharing sexual dissatisfaction, leading to years of faked orgasms, avoided intimacy, and emotional distance. Couples rarely discuss sex outside intimate moments, missing opportunities to reflect on what works and what needs improvement.
Dr. Rubin stresses that most relationship conflicts about sex don't have a villain—differences in libido, preferences, or dysfunctions are natural, not character flaws. Bartlett adds that viewing issues as "us versus the problem" eliminates shame and makes space for solutions. When couples approach challenges as opportunities, they strengthen their relationship through communication.
Dr. Rubin observes that most couples have never talked about what great sex means to them or what their partner enjoys. She urges couples to ask questions like "What does great sex mean for you?" and recommends scheduled date nights to create intentional space for connection and communication. Including partners in medical exams about sexual health can shift focus from blame to support, highlighting biological issues over relational ones. Apps and frameworks for communication make exploring fantasies safer and easier, while avoiding difficult discussions risks emotional distance and disconnection.
Dr. Rubin and Bartlett explore how modern lifestyle, psychological obstacles, and cultural myths contribute to declining sexual desire and satisfaction.
Chronic sleep deprivation, overwork, and burnout deplete [restricted term] and neurological capacity, making sexual desire feel impossible. Constant screen time disrupts the mental space needed for sexual connection, with people absorbed in digital content instead of engaging with partners. This contributes to a "sex recession"—people having less sex and struggling to connect. Both speakers debunk the "spontaneity myth" perpetuated by media, emphasizing that meaningful intimacy often requires intentional planning.
Dr. Rubin identifies body image insecurity and perfectionism as major barriers to intimacy. Many women focus intensely on achieving thinness and equate their worthiness of pleasure with their weight, believing they must meet appearance standards before allowing themselves sexual enjoyment. Despite this, partners typically find them attractive regardless of weight, but insecure individuals project their concerns instead of trusting their partner's genuine desire.
Pornography, consumed regularly by 75-95% of young men, shapes expectations with unrealistic depictions of sex. Dr. Rubin notes that constant solo porn use can desensitize the brain's reward system, making arousal with a partner more difficult and potentially causing performance anxiety. However, the greatest harm arises from deception and secrecy, not consumption itself—openly communicating couples experience less damage.
Research shows that men typically experience spontaneous arousal, while women are far more likely to need physical affection and relational cues. Approximately 70% of men report spontaneous arousal compared to only 10-15% of women, while 40-50% of women experience primarily responsive arousal—becoming interested after engagement begins. Recognizing these biological differences prevents misattributing low libido as disinterest, and scheduling sex can accommodate women's responsive arousal patterns by creating space where desire can develop.
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A nuanced understanding of women’s hormonal health recognizes the critical roles of [restricted term], estrogen, and progesterone throughout life, and challenges misconceptions that impact sexual function, mood, and overall health. Despite progress in research and therapeutics, many women remain underserved due to outdated beliefs and a lack of awareness both in the public and the medical profession.
Steven Bartlett and Dr. Rachel Rubin highlight that popular and medical understanding frequently reduces [restricted term] to just a “male” hormone, overlooking its essential role for women. Medical education and resources often focus on estrogen and progesterone, rarely including [restricted term] in the hormonal landscape—even though the ovary produces all three hormones. Contrary to common belief, women’s [restricted term] does not drop at menopause, but begins declining in the thirties. Many women in this age group start reporting lower libido, delayed orgasm, reduced arousal, and changes in physical sexual response.
[restricted term] remains relatively stable throughout the menstrual cycle but peaks around ovulation. Biologically, this supports reproduction, as heightened libido during ovulation helps facilitate conception.
Birth control pills contain synthetic estrogen and progestin at levels high enough to suppress ovulation and prevent the ovary from making its natural hormones, including [restricted term]. The pill does not add back [restricted term], so circulating levels drop. This can lead to lowered libido and pain with sex for a subset of users. Dr. Rubin cites studies showing up to 27% of women on the pill reporting a marked drop in sex drive. After discontinuing birth control, many women experience a return of libido and normal sexual pleasure as ovarian hormone production, including [restricted term], resumes. Rubin encourages those experiencing such side effects to discuss alternative contraceptive options that may limit [restricted term] suppression.
Global consensus and robust clinical data show that [restricted term] significantly benefits peri- and postmenopausal women struggling with low libido and related symptoms. Therapy leads to improvements in libido, arousal, orgasm, and overall sexual satisfaction, and may even enhance body image. Rubin shares clinical examples where, after three to six months on therapy, patients experience significant improvement not only in sexual health but in cognitive and overall wellbeing. While not every woman requires [restricted term] therapy, those who desire or need it should have access to knowledgeable healthcare providers who can prescribe and monitor it at doses appropriate for women.
Estrogen, progesterone, and [restricted term] surge and fall during the menstrual cycle. Bleeding (menses) corresponds to the lowest levels of estrogen and progesterone. As the new cycle begins, estrogen rises, peaking before ovulation to support the release of the egg. Progesterone production starts after ovulation, dominating the second half of the cycle until the lack of fertilization triggers both hormone levels to drop and a new period to begin. Hormone levels also vary enormously during pregnancy, further illustrating their wide-ranging physiological effects.
The transition into perimenopause (typically ages 35–45) brings fluctuating hormone levels, resulting in unique symptoms. As progesterone declines, women often develop sleep disturbances, heightened anxiety, and mood changes. Estrogen decline brings hot flashes, night sweats, brain fog, fatigue, and most notably, compromised bone density—illustrating the hormone’s protective effect on bones. Rubin describes patients experiencing a combination of these symptoms as they approach menopause (average onset around age 52).
Menopause represents a “hormonal castration” event where estrogen, progesterone, and [restricted term] are at their lowest, significantly affecting bone strength, sexual health, cardiovascular function, and cognitive wellbeing. Hormone withdrawal can result in increased fracture risk, rising cardiovascular concerns, and pronounced symptoms such as persistent hot flashes and sleep disruption. The abruptness and severity of these changes emphasize the importance of personalized hormone management.
Hormone therapy rates for menopausal women dropped dramatically after the misinterpretation of the Women’s Health Initiative (WHI) study in the early 2000s. A press conference announcing premature results mistakenly linked hormone therapy to increased cardiovascular disease and breast cancer, leaving millions to abandon beneficial treatment. Later analyses and follow-up studies disproved these fears for women below 70, showing that modern hormone therapy regimens do not increase cardiovascular or cancer risk when appropriately managed. Despite this, more than 75% of women who could benefit are not receiving hormone therapy, a “disaster” according to Dr. Rubin.
Currently, only 1.7% of eligible women receive prescriptions for hormone therapy, underlining a widespread healthcare failure in informing, offering, and administering appropriate therapies to those who could benefit according to individual symptoms.
Hormone therapy can be customized across four main domains:
Therapy may involve one, some, or all of these, depending on the woman’s symptoms and clinical picture.
Women's Hormones and Hormonal Health
The clitoris is a complex organ, homologous to the penis in structure, tissue, and function. Rachel Rubin describes tracing the labia minora, or inner wings, to reach the clitoral hood (prepuce), which can be retracted to reveal the tip of the clitoral head. However, this visible tip is just a small part of an extensive structure that extends deep into the pelvis, down to the butt bones. The clitoris contains about 10,000 nerve endings, making it the most sensitive part of the female sexual anatomy. Due to its sensitivity, some women find direct stimulation overwhelming and may prefer less direct contact or vibration.
Clitoral adhesions—when the hood sticks to the head—occur in about 23% of women. Normally, one should be able to retract the hood and see the entire head, which resembles the “mushroom” rim of a penis. When adhesions are removed via a simple office procedure, research shows sexual satisfaction improves by 60-70%, with notable gains in orgasm and arousal.
Despite the clitoris’s anatomical and functional importance, Rubin highlights that few doctors examine or educate about this part of the body. During gynecological exams, modesty drapes obscure the view and providers seldom show women their anatomy, missing opportunities for education. Rubin became known for using mirrors during exams to visually explain the vulva, clitoris, and surrounding structures, helping women gain language and understanding about their own bodies. She notes that, historically, no one has examined most women’s clitorises during standard checkups, and there remains a gap in discussing orgasm, satisfaction, and sexual function in clinical settings.
Most women are unable to achieve orgasm from vaginal penetration alone because the clitoris, the main center for sexual pleasure and orgasm, is external and not directly stimulated by penetration. Studies and clinical experience make it clear that the majority of female orgasms are clitoral in origin. Despite this, many women believe they are “broken” if they cannot orgasm from penetration, a misconception rooted in poor sexual education.
Rubin points out that while about 20% of women report being unable to orgasm at all, equivalent to a significant pleasure gap compared to men, this is mostly due to lack of knowledge. Women commonly experience strong orgasms from direct clitoral stimulation—via vibrator, hand, or shower head—rather than through penetration. The penis and clitoris are equivalent: men require penile stimulation for orgasm; women require clitoral stimulation.
Orgasm typically requires sustained arousal and stimulation. On average, men last about five and a half minutes during penetrative sex, but women generally require more than 13-15 minutes of focused clitoral stimulation to reach orgasm. This makes the idea of mutual orgasm during typical intercourse unrealistic. As a result, many women fake orgasms to align with partner expectations and avoid discomfort, which perpetuates myths around penetration as the main source of female pleasure and hampers honest communication. Rubin encourages open dialogue to promote sexual satisfaction.
The difference in orgasm rates is sometimes attributed to psychological factors, but physical stimulation and education are foundational for bridging the gap.
Pain during sex is common, with up to 75% of women experiencing it at some point, and 10-20% suffering from chronic pain. In menopause, the prevalence can rise to nearly half of all women. Rubin emphasizes that sex should not be painful; persistent pain is a medical issue deserving thorough evaluation.
Several conditions can cause sexual pain:
Female Sexual Anatomy and Pleasure
Systemic shortcomings in medical education and healthcare delivery continue to hinder the quality of care women receive, particularly in sexual health, anatomy, and hormone therapy. These failures affect women across all socioeconomic statuses, perpetuating misinformation, denial of treatment, and poor health outcomes.
Rachel Rubin and Steven Bartlett discuss how most doctors, including obstetrician-gynecologists, receive little to no training in women's sexual health and anatomy. Rubin explains that the clitoris is completely missing from the 2026 OBGYN training checklist; the word does not even appear. Medical education omits examination of the clitoris, the vulva, and essential topics such as sexual function, pain with sex, libido, arousal, and orgasm. As a result, few clinicians have the expertise to diagnose or treat these issues, leaving women unexamined and undiagnosed across generations.
Medical curricula typically emphasize estrogen and progesterone, neglecting the critical role [restricted term] plays in women’s sexual function. Rubin highlights, "We forgot to teach doctors anything about hormones." Instead, what is taught instills the fear that naturally occurring hormones become dangerous after a certain age, based on outdated science.
This lack of training extends to even the most privileged women. Rubin states that Melinda Gates, Oprah Winfrey, and Halle Berry—despite wealth and access—have all been misdiagnosed due to clinicians' poor understanding of women’s hormonal health and sexual medicine. Gates had to visit three doctors to be prescribed proper hormone therapy, Oprah saw five before her perimenopausal heart palpitations were understood, and Berry publicly endured misdiagnosis of menopause symptoms as genital herpes.
Rather than acknowledging gaps in their training, many physicians simply deny women hormone therapy, claiming, "You can't have this." Rubin and Bartlett observe this as a form of paternalistic gatekeeping unique to women's health. In contrast, men receive open, shared decision-making regarding treatments, with doctors discussing risks and benefits rather than flat denials.
Time constraints worsen these outcomes. Brief 10-minute appointments force doctors to simplify: saying “no” is easier than attempting nuanced exploration and problem-solving. Rubin notes, “Instead of doctors saying, I don't know, they're sort of saying, ‘No, you can’t have this’ because it's easier than sort of going into that nuance."
A misinterpreted study from the 1990s triggered decades of fear about hormone therapy, which persists in both medical culture and public perception. The original study, halted early, indicated risks that later evidence refuted—finding no increased risk of cardiovascular events or stroke for women under 70 on hormone therapy. Nevertheless, many doctors never learned this; hormone therapy became a "lost art." Rubin recounts, "Doctors don't know how to write the prescriptions. Nobody taught them how," even after funding like Melinda Gates’ $10 million donation to menopause societies.
The knowledge gap is deep and persistent: clinicians struggle to understand the differences between hormones, their safety profiles, and appropriate prescription practices. “Someone has to teach someone how to do something. So I lecture all the time … because that's what it's gonna take,” says Rubin, emphasizing that publishing research alone does not reach practicing doctors.
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Systemic Failures in Medical Education and Women's Healthcare
Steven Bartlett and Rachel Rubin argue that the foundation of healthy relationships is rooted in education and honest communication. They note that most people lack sufficient sexual education and experience shame, which hinders open discussion about sexual needs and issues. This fosters misunderstandings and can lead to relationship decline.
Bartlett reflects that, without education on sex and communication, people are left to guess or internalize issues. He describes discussing with friends their lack of sex lives and concluding, out of ignorance, that either "something is wrong with me" or "maybe my partner just doesn't like sex." He laments that, had he known more about sexual health and communication, he would have realized these challenges could have been resolved rather than being treated as intractable. Rubin points out that if people learned about biology, sexual health, or could comfortably name and discuss genitals, much of the hurt, shame, and guilt could be avoided.
Rubin offers examples such as libido changes from antidepressants or painful intercourse from medical conditions. She highlights common mistakes: attributing low desire to lack of attraction or love, instead of understanding underlying biology or medication effects. This misunderstanding perpetuates shame and self-blame.
Bartlett and Rubin explain that fear of rejection or emasculation prevents many from sharing sexual dissatisfaction. Women may hide discomfort or pain to protect their partner’s feelings, while men conceal insecurities or frustrations. This silence can lead to years of faked orgasms, avoided intimacy, and growing emotional distance, eventually eroding the relationship.
Both speakers note that people rarely discuss sex outside the bedroom. Rubin calls for “after action” conversations—reflecting on what worked and what could be improved. Bartlett notes that without these discussions, partners remain unaware of each other’s needs, potentially leading to years of misunderstanding and mediocre intimacy.
Rubin stresses that most relationship conflicts, especially about sex, do not have a villain; differences in libido, preferences, or dysfunctions are natural, not character flaws. Bartlett adds that viewing issues as “us versus the problem,” not “me versus you,” eliminates shame, reduces blame, and makes space for solutions.
Rubin emphasizes understanding and curiosity. Recognizing that no one is inherently at fault for sexual incompatibility allows partners to approach sensitive topics without fear of blame or rejection.
Bartlett shares that acknowledging neither partner is solely responsible for sexual difficulties is liberating and creates a safe space for honest communication. Rubin points out that such reframing encourages safe exploration of needs, desires, and fantasies, bolstering intimacy.
Bartlett references a quote about relationship health, observing that conflicts can make partnerships stronger or weaker depending on communication. When couples approach challenges with teamwork, they achieve “101% healing” and grow closer through resolving conflicts.
Rubin compares sexual communication to financial literacy: just as people need to talk about money’s basics, they must learn to discuss sex’s basics, needs, and desires. She observes that most couples have never talked about what great sex means to them or asked what their partner enjoys.
Rubin urges couples to ask questions such as, “What does great sex mean for you?” or “What makes a great time?” As people have many motives for sex and varied fantasies, open discussions are essential to reconcile differences.
Rubin states that women often hide their discomfort to avoid hurting their partners, while men hide perf ...
Communication, Vulnerability, and Relationship Health
Rachel Rubin and Steven Bartlett explore how modern lifestyle, psychological obstacles, and cultural myths contribute to declining sexual desire and satisfaction, particularly among women. They emphasize that these factors are often overlooked, but understanding them is essential for addressing today's "sex recession."
Rachel Rubin highlights that chronic sleep deprivation, overwork, and burnout contribute to a logical and significant decline in excitement and libido. Being overextended—whether through demanding jobs or endless distractions—leads directly to diminished [restricted term] and depleted neurological capacity, making it feel impossible to muster sexual desire.
Screen use exacerbates this problem. Rubin notes that constant scrolling at bedtime or using devices such as AI chatbots replaces opportunities for human connection. Instead of engaging with partners, people are absorbed in digital content, which erodes the mental space necessary for intimacy and connection. This tendency worsens social disengagement; as Rubin states, people are experiencing a “sex recession”—having less sex and struggling to connect, with technology contributing to this decline.
Both Rubin and Bartlett debunk the “spontaneity myth” perpetuated by movies and television. While media presents sex as spontaneous and effortless, Rubin compares this depiction to scripted wrestling, emphasizing its unreality. In actual relationships, routine and daily coexistence leave little room for spontaneous excitement. Meaningful connection and healthy sexual intimacy often require intentional planning, and scheduling sex can help maintain connection and responsiveness—contradicting the idea that it dampens romance.
Rubin sees body image insecurity and perfectionism as major psychological barriers to intimacy, especially among women. She observes that many women focus intensely on achieving thinness and equate their worthiness of pleasure with their weight. Instead of prioritizing health or strength, energy is funneled into meeting arbitrary weight goals before allowing themselves sexual enjoyment.
Rubin underscores that women often impose unattainable appearance standards on themselves, believing they must “deserve” pleasure or orgasms by being skinny. She notes that people readily affirm their friends' worthiness of great sex at any weight, yet apply harsh, perfectionistic standards to themselves, preventing relaxation and intimacy.
Despite their own insecurities, most women’s partners find them attractive regardless of weight. However, insecure individuals tend to project these concerns onto their relationships rather than trusting their partners’ genuine desire, which further undermines comfort and satisfaction in intimacy.
Bartlett and Rubin discuss how heavy pornography use, especially among young men, sets unrealistic expectations for sex. Pornography is crafted predominantly for a male audience, with about 65% of its consumers being men and roughly 75–95% of young men regularly viewing it. This ecosystem shapes how men perceive sex—suggesting women are always enthusiastic and that ideal encounters mirror scripted, male-centered fantasies.
Rubin notes that pornography enables users to curate exact scenarios tailored to their tastes—which is rarely possible in real-life intimacy that requires compromise. Constant solo porn use can condition the brain to expect specific, easily accessible types of stimulation, desensitizing the reward system. This “training” can make arousal with a partner more difficult, trigger performance anxiety, or cause erectile challenges, as real sex can feel less novel or stimulatin ...
Lifestyle Factors and Psychological Barriers
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