In this episode of Stuff You Should Know, hosts Chuck Bryant and Josh Clark examine the science and psychology of forgiveness. They explore how both revenge and forgiveness serve evolutionary purposes, with roots in animal behavior, and discuss studies showing that various species—from chimps to dolphins—display reconciliation behaviors similar to humans.
The hosts break down the health implications of forgiveness versus holding grudges, explaining how letting go of negative emotions can lead to better stress management and overall well-being. They present practical approaches to forgiveness, including the REACH model, and explore the relationship between religious beliefs and forgiving behavior. The discussion frames forgiveness as a learned skill that primarily benefits the person who was wronged, rather than the wrongdoer.

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In this episode, Chuck Bryant and Josh Clark explore how both revenge and forgiveness serve evolutionary purposes, with roots extending beyond human behavior into the animal kingdom.
Clark explains that revenge serves as a signal to groups that an individual won't be exploited, increasing survival chances. However, forgiveness plays an equally important role. The "valuable relationship hypothesis" suggests that after revenge, reconciliation becomes crucial for maintaining group cooperation and survival.
Bryant and Clark note that these behaviors aren't uniquely human. Primatologist Franz de Waal has observed reconciliation behaviors among wild chimps, and similar patterns appear in various species including bonobos, sheep, dolphins, and hyenas, suggesting forgiveness is a natural phenomenon crucial for social cohesion.
The hosts emphasize that forgiveness primarily benefits the person who was wronged, not the wrongdoer. It's about releasing negative emotions without necessarily condoning the harmful action. Clark references studies showing that individuals who harbor grudges experience increased stress levels, while those who practice forgiveness often show better health outcomes, particularly in managing chronic stress.
The REACH model provides a structured approach to forgiveness: Recall the event objectively, Empathize with the wrongdoer (without excusing their actions), give an Altruistic gift of forgiveness, and maintain forgiveness despite negative emotions. Bryant and Clark emphasize that forgiveness is a learned skill rather than an innate trait, and while religious individuals often report being more forgiving, studies show actual forgiving behavior isn't necessarily tied to religiosity.
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Chuck Bryant and Josh Clark delve into how both fighting back and forgiving play significant roles in evolution, suggesting that revenge and forgiveness are not only fundamental to humans but also deeply rooted in the animal kingdom.
Revenge and forgiveness may seem like opposites, but Bryant and Clark point out that they both have evolutionary advantages.
Josh Clark explains the evolutionary advantage of revenge in social groups. When an individual retaliates, it broadcasts to the group that they are not to be taken advantage of. This deters future exploitation and is key to survival and the likelihood of passing on genes. Clark underscores the innate human response to retribution, pointing to the popularity of revenge movies.
Interestingly, studies have shown that the presence of a third party observer increases the likelihood of physical retaliation in a dispute. This highlights the signaling aspect of revenge—indicating to others that one will not be exploited without consequence. Chuck Bryant talks about "negative reciprocity," which involves retaliating in kind if one is wronged, reinforcing the message to the group of the individual's unwillingness to be taken advantage of.
Forgiveness comes into play when considering the dynamics of tight-knit social groups. Clark notes that there are limitations on who individuals can feud with when survival depends on cooperation. The "valuable relationship hypothesis" suggests that after taking revenge, reconciliation is important to repair relationships and maintain the necessary cooperative interdependence for group survival.
Bryant furthers this point by suggesting that practicing forgiveness after an act of revenge allows for the restoration of relationships within the group. This signals to others that while one is not to be crossed, they are also capable of working with others, thus adding value to the group's cohesiveness and cooperative efforts.
Contrary to the belief that forgiveness is a 'higher virtue' exclusive to humans, Clark and Bryant reveal that these dynamics are also present in the animal kingdom.
The Evolutionary Basis of Forgiveness
Research into forgiveness has highlighted its benefits primarily for the person who has been wronged, not the offender. Chuck Bryant and Josh Clark share their insights into how forgiveness can lead to psychological relief and improved health outcomes.
The hosts elaborate that forgiveness is an action done by the forgivee—it is about that individual releasing negative feelings to feel better, rather than about the transgressor seeking or deserving forgiveness. In some instances, the act of forgiveness can make the transgressor suffer worse out of guilt, but it is not done for the wrongdoer, and can even occur without their awareness. Forgiveness is also a process of self-preservation, releasing a person from the turmoil inflicted by someone who wronged them, as discussed by Josh Clark.
Forgiveness involves letting go of anger without condoning the action that caused the hurt. It does not excuse the past behavior or allow any future repetition of it. There are times when forgiveness is not appropriate, such as situations that could lead to further victimization. The hosts also mention that while forgiveness is not forthcoming, it is still possible to move on without resentment and anger, therefore not allowing the wrongdoer to maintain control over one's emotional well-being.
Chronic stress, tied to chronic anger, can lead to serious health issues such as high blood pressure, diabetes, and poor cardiovascular health. Josh Clark speaks about a study where participants who harbored grudges exhibited increased stress levels, even afte ...
The Psychological and Health Benefits of Forgiveness
Forgiveness is a complex process that can be facilitated by structured approaches, like Worthington's REACH model, and it is a skill that can be taught and developed rather than an innate trait.
The REACH model offers a progressive structure to aid individuals in the journey of forgiveness.
Forgiveness begins with recalling the event objectively. This means remembering it without judging oneself or the other involved party.
Empathy is crucial in the REACH model, where one strives to understand the offender's perspective without excusing their actions. This could involve reflecting on circumstances that led to their behavior.
The A in REACH represents the altruistic gift of forgiveness. This involves recognizing that forgiveness is a gift, even if the forgiven party is unaware. One may reflect on times they were forgiven.
Holding onto forgiveness despite experiencing a resurgence of negative emotions is essential. It's crucial to allow oneself to feel these intermittent feelings throughout the process.
Understanding forgiveness as a capability that can be developed is fundamental.
Techniques exist that can teach individuals how to forgive. Chuck Bryant and Josh Clark suggest that upbringing plays a role, but one can still learn to forgive even if they grew up in an unforgiving environment. Clark also not ...
Practical Methods and Models For Practicing Forgiveness
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