Stuff You Should Know examines the concept of extinction, from Earth's past mass extinction events to the possibility of a sixth mass extinction happening now. The hosts explore how various factors, from glaciation to volcanic activity, have caused between 20% to 95% of species to vanish during previous extinction events, and discuss current extinction rates that are hundreds of times higher than the natural background rate.
The hosts delve into the challenges scientists face when studying extinction through fossil records and explain why "de-extinction" technology may not be the answer to species loss. They examine both the "overkill hypothesis" linking extinctions to human expansion and the "climate change hypothesis" connecting them to natural climate shifts made worse by human activity, while considering the practical limitations of bringing extinct species back to life.

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Throughout Earth's history, several mass extinction events have dramatically shaped life on our planet. From the Ordovician extinction 490 million years ago to the famous Cretaceous-Paleogene event that ended the dinosaurs' reign, these events eliminated between 20% to over 95% of existing species. Chuck Bryant explains that while each extinction had unique causes—from glaciation to volcanic activity—they all resulted in catastrophic changes to Earth's ecosystems.
According to Elizabeth Kolbert, there's growing scientific consensus that Earth is experiencing a sixth mass extinction event. Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant note that current extinction rates are 100 to 1000 times higher than the natural background rate. Two main hypotheses explain this phenomenon: the "overkill hypothesis," which links extinctions to human expansion, and the "climate change hypothesis," which points to natural climate shifts worsened by human activity. Research shows that 177 large mammal species have vanished over the past 132,000 years, coinciding with human population growth.
Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant discuss how the fossil record's limitations complicate our understanding of extinction events. Fossils only form under specific conditions, meaning many extinct species may be completely unrecorded. Bryant explains that "pseudo-extinction"—where species evolve into new forms rather than truly going extinct—further complicates the picture. Researchers must rely on mathematical models to fill these gaps, adding uncertainty to our understanding of historical extinction rates.
While technological advances make de-extinction increasingly possible, Bryant and Clark explore the complex ethical and practical challenges involved. They discuss how revived species might lack suitable habitats in the modern world, citing the case of the bucardo—a Spanish mountain goat that survived only minutes after being brought back from extinction. The hosts suggest that conservation efforts should focus on protecting currently endangered species rather than attempting to resurrect extinct ones.
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The history of Earth is punctuated by several mass extinction events, each with its distinct causes and catastrophic outcomes. These cataclysms have wiped out a significant percentage of species, ranging from 20% to over 95%.
The Ordovician extinction event, occurring about 490 million years ago, eliminated about half of all animal families. Chuck Bryant notes that glaciation during this period lowered sea levels, destroying shallow marine habitats and leading to massive die-offs. Species adapted to certain sea depths, especially shallower ones, either lost their environments or were forced into deeper waters where they faced unfamiliar predators and adverse conditions.
Taking place roughly 360 million years ago, the Late Devonian extinction saw the disappearance of about a quarter of marine families. Although the specific causes of this extinction remain debated and not entirely clear, environmental changes and disruptions to marine ecosystems are considered significant factors.
Also known as the Great Dying, the Permian-Triassic extinction was the most severe mass extinction event recorded, with estimates suggesting that 95 to 96 percent of all species perished. This event, which occurred 250 million years ago, led to the extinction of 85 percent of marine genera and approximately 70 percent of land species. One of the leading hypo ...
History and Causes of Past Mass Extinctions
There is a growing consensus in the scientific community that the Earth is experiencing a sixth mass extinction event. Debates on the causes of this cataclysm continue, with human activity at the forefront.
Elizabeth Kolbert, a leading journalist on the topic of extinction, suggests that a consensus exists around the sixth mass extinction being underway. This perspective is echoed in Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant's podcast discussions, where they note that extinction rates are currently estimated to be 100 to a thousand times the natural background rate.
The "overkill hypothesis," hinges on the idea that the spread of human populations led to the extinction of global megafauna. Chuck Bryant references the disappearance of large animals in Australia around 50,000 years ago, coinciding with the expansion of the human footprint. These extinctions included wombat-like creatures the size of hippos and tortoises as big as a VW Beetle.
Under the "climate change hypothesis," natural shifts in the climate are considered the main drivers of current extinctions. However, these shifts are believed to be exacerbated by human activities. Josh Clark highlights how even if climate change is a natural shift, human activity bears significance in worsening its impact.
Current human activities, such as farming, logging, road and building construction, and alterations of waterways, contribute significantly to the extinction rate. Moreover, CO2 emissions from human-driven enterprises like chemical plants create ocean acidification. The decrease in ocean pH over the past 50 years could be greater than changes experienced over the previous 50 million years, potentially creating drastic changes in the ocean's chemical composition.
Researchers mapping large animals from 132,000 to 1,0 ...
Causes of the Potential Sixth Mass Extinction
The study of extinction is faced with complexities that arise from the limitations of the fossil record. Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant delve into the issues that hinder our full comprehension of extinction events through history.
Josh Clark begins the conversation by pointing out the early belief that all animals were creations of God and, as such, could not go extinct. This illustrates how historical beliefs and rationalizations have impacted the interpretation of the fossil record.
Clark and Bryant explain that, due to the nature of fossil formation, a high number of extinct species might be completely unrepresented in the fossil record. Fossils typically form under specific conditions, such as being encased in amber or covered in ash. As a result, the absence of a fossil does not necessarily equate to a species' extinction. Additionally, Bryant touches on the concept of pseudo-extinction, where a species may have evolved into a new form and stopped appearing in the fossil record, further complicating the understanding of extinction.
The point at which a species ceases to appear in the fossil record is an unreliable indicator of its actual extinction event. The discovery of Lazarus species—organisms that reappear in the fossil record after being presumed extinct—highlights the inaccu ...
Challenges In Studying Extinction Due to Fossil Limitations
With advancing technology comes the increasing possibility of reviving extinct species, often known as de-extinction. Such prospects raise ethical questions and practical considerations that both the public and scientific communities grapple with.
Podcast hosts Chuck Bryant and Josh Clark express intrigue at the potential for de-extincting species, such as a sloth as big as an elephant, highlighting the curiosity spurred by such technological advances.
However, there are serious concerns about the ramifications of de-extinction, especially the ethical dimension of reviving species when their original habitats may no longer exist. Bryant and Clark discuss the moral complexities of bringing back extinct animals, debating the appropriateness of placing them in zoos given the potential lack of natural environments.
Bryant discusses the case of the bucardo, a Spanish mountain goat, which was brought back from extinction but only survived a few minutes after birth, emphasizing that de-extinction does not guarantee the long-term survival of a species. This raises points about the adaptation issues that could arise, as animals that have been extinct may not be suited to the current ecosystem or may lack the necessary genetic variety for a sustainable population.
Towards the end of their discussion, Bryant and Clark seem to agree that efforts should be directed toward dealing with current extinction rates and conserving endangered species, rather than focusing on de-extinction. Clark s ...
Ethical and Practical Considerations of "De-extincting" Species
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