In this episode of Stuff You Should Know, hosts Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant explain how subpoenas work in the U.S. legal system. They break down the two main types of subpoenas—those requiring in-person testimony and those demanding document production—and explore how courts and Congress differ in their ability to enforce these legal instruments.
The hosts trace the development of executive privilege through historical court cases, from its early establishment in 1800 to the watershed United States v. Nixon case in 1974. They examine how different presidential administrations have interpreted executive privilege, with particular focus on the Trump administration's approach to congressional subpoenas and its potential impact on the balance of power between branches of government.
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Josh Clark explains that there are two main types of subpoenas: the subpoena ad testificandum, which requires in-person testimony, and the subpoena duces tecum, which demands document production. While both courts and Congress can issue these legal instruments, their enforcement mechanisms differ significantly.
According to Chuck Bryant, courts can enforce their subpoenas through fines and jail time, though these measures are rarely used. Congress, on the other hand, faces more limitations in enforcing its subpoenas. While Congress can issue contempt citations, enforcement typically depends on cooperation from the Justice Department, which sometimes declines to pursue cases, particularly when executive privilege is involved.
Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant trace the evolution of executive privilege through key court cases, starting with US v. Cooper in 1800, which first established presidential exemptions from certain legal procedures. However, the landmark 1974 case United States v. Nixon significantly shaped the modern understanding of executive privilege.
In this case, Chief Justice Burger's court determined that while presidential confidentiality is important, it cannot override due process and the rule of law. This decision forced Nixon to comply with a subpoena for the Watergate tapes, establishing that executive privilege is not absolute.
Josh Clark discusses how the Trump administration took an unprecedented stance on executive privilege, arguing that the president could direct aides to ignore congressional subpoenas. This position challenged established norms about Congress's oversight capabilities and the judiciary's role in resolving branch disputes.
The administration's approach is exemplified by White House counsel Don McGahn's refusal to testify when subpoenaed. While Congress has sought legal action to enforce its subpoenas, including through proposed legislation and lawsuits, the outcomes remain uncertain. Clark suggests that if courts rule in favor of the administration's position, it could significantly weaken Congress's oversight powers and the system of checks and balances.
1-Page Summary
Subpoenas are crucial legal instruments utilized by both Congress and courts to ensure compliance with investigations and legal procedures.
The types of subpoenas include the subpoena ad testificandum, which commands a person to appear in person, typically to testify in a legal setting. The other type, subpoena duces tecum, compels the production of documents or tangible evidence. Josh Clark explains that these legal tools are not limited to courtrooms but can extend to any legal authority vested with the power to issue them.
Both the judicial and legislative branches have the authority to issue subpoenas. While the types may differ, the intent of garnering testimony or evidence remains consistent.
Courts ensure the effectiveness of their subpoenas by holding the power to levy fines and threaten jail time for those who do not comply, as mentioned by Chuck Bryant. Subpoenas are also negotiable, and lawyers can argue to limit their scope or negotiate conditions. Even though enforcement like fines and jail is mentioned, the podcast does not elaborate on how often these are actually used by courts. In the case of court enforcement, civil judgment may come into play, potentially leading to fines or jail time, but this process is generally slow.
On the legislative side, issuing subpoenas is a power long held by Congress, one that is dependent on individual committee rules. In terms of enforcement, Congress traditionally has not frequently exercised inherent contempt power, which allo ...
Subpoenas and Legal Tools Used by Congress and Courts
Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant delve into the concept of executive privilege and its constraints as shaped by key legal decisions throughout U.S. history.
During a discussion, Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant look back at a court case in 1800, US v. Cooper, where the court chose not to subpoena President John Adams. This early decision established that presidents have certain exemptions from normal court processes. Clark and Bryant touch on the fact that from the very beginning, U.S. presidents have been shielded from certain legal procedures that would otherwise involve them directly.
Two key cases laid the groundwork for the notion of executive privilege: the president’s ability to avoid participation in legal processes and to prevent presidential documents from being subpoenaed. However, these precedents do not suggest that the executive branch has an unchecked right to confidentiality.
The conversation then shifts to the events of the Watergate scandal, where congressional committees and a special prosecutor demanded secret tapes from President Nixon. Nixon resisted the subpoena by claiming executive privilege, which led to the landmark Supreme Court case United States v. Nixo ...
The Historical Development and Limits of Executive Privilege
The administrations of both President Trump and President Obama have seen significant conflicts with Congress over the enforcement of congressional subpoenas, highlighting important legal and constitutional issues regarding the oversight power of Congress and the judiciary's role in executive privilege disputes.
Josh Clark explains that the Trump administration has taken a broad stance on executive privilege, suggesting the president can instruct aides to ignore congressional subpoenas. This view implies that judiciary authorities lack the power to intervene in such disputes, effectively suggesting immunity from oversight for the executive branch. This challenges established norms and raises questions about Congress's oversight capabilities and the judiciary's role in resolving branch conflicts.
Historically, both Democrats and Republicans have preferred to keep judicial involvement in subpoena disputes to a minimum. However, the position held by the Trump administration challenges long-established procedures concerning congressional oversight and the judiciary's role in resolving such disputes. Clark remarks that by this logic, the executive branch, under Trump's guidance, would not be subject to the laws of the country or Supreme Court rulings, placing the president above the law. White House counsel Don McGahn's refusal to testify or answer his subpoena under Trump's direction is cited as an example of this unprecedented noncompliance.
Congress remains tasked with maintaining checks on the executive branch to prevent any one branch from acquiring too much power. To enforce its subpoenas, Congress has considered various actions, including a bill sponsored by Representative Darrell Issa to enhance subpoena enforcement, although it did not pass in the Senate. A court compelled Eric Holder to co ...
Conflict Between Trump Administration and Congress Over Subpoenas
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