Short Stuff: Devil Horns
In this episode of Stuff You Should Know, the hosts explore the history and cultural significance of the "devil horns" hand gesture, which began as a protective symbol against the evil eye in Italy before becoming a staple of rock and metal music culture. The discussion traces how various artists, from Ronnie James Dio to Geezer Butler, helped popularize this gesture in Western music.
The episode delves into how different bands developed their own unique hand signals, and examines the controversy surrounding Gene Simmons' attempt to trademark the "devil horns" gesture. The hosts also investigate the gesture's earliest documented uses in music, including its appearance on album covers and its evolution into different forms across various metal scenes, such as Japan's "Kitsune" sign associated with Babymetal.
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Origin and History of "Devil Horns" Hand Sign
The iconic "devil horns" hand sign, known as "corna" in Italian, originated as a protective gesture against the evil eye in Italy before becoming synonymous with rock and metal music. While Ronnie James Dio popularized the gesture in the metal scene, its use in music predates him, appearing with artists like Geezer Butler of Black Sabbath and even on The Beatles' "Yellow Submarine" album cover.
Other Hand Signs Used In Heavy Metal Music
Various bands developed their own unique hand gestures. Van Halen, during Sammy Hagar's era, created a suggestive variation using two "I love you" signs. The band Poison reportedly had their own signal involving finger snapping and hand slapping. Notably, Gene Simmons of KISS faced significant backlash for attempting to trademark the "devil horns" gesture.
Cultural and Symbolic Meaning of Hand Signs
In metal concerts, these hand gestures serve as powerful forms of non-verbal communication. While the traditional "devil horns" remains prominent in Western metal culture, Japanese metal shows feature the "Kitsune" sign, representing a fox face and particularly associated with the band Babymetal. Despite its sometimes ominous appearance, the "devil horns" sign primarily represents music appreciation rather than any occult meaning.
Events and Figures Related To "Devil Horns" Hand Sign
Josh Clark suggests that Jynx Dawson of Coven may have been the first to use the "devil horns" sign, featuring it on their album "Witchcraft Destroys Minds and Reaps Souls." While interesting coincidences exist between Coven and Black Sabbath's origins, Black Sabbath members, including Ozzy Osbourne and Geezer Butler, deny any direct influence. Dom Lawson from Metal Hammer notes that Coven's album likely never reached the UK during Black Sabbath's formation. The recognition of Dawson's early use of the sign played a role in challenging Gene Simmons' later trademark attempt.
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- Explore the cultural origins of hand gestures by starting a themed photo collection featuring people from different backgrounds using the "devil horns" and other signs, capturing the diversity and personal meaning behind each gesture.
- This activity involves taking photographs of friends, family, or even strangers who are willing to participate, showcasing their use of the "devil horns" or other hand gestures they associate with music or culture. You can then create an online gallery or physical album, providing a visual exploration of how these symbols are used and perceived across various cultures and music genres.
- Create a personal playlist of rock and metal music that features bands known for their unique hand gestures, and learn to associate each song with its corresponding sign.
- As you listen to each track, practice the hand gesture that the band is known for, such as the "Kitsune" sign for Babymetal or the "I love you" sign from Van Halen. This not only enhances your music listening experience but also deepens your understanding of the connection between the music and its non-verbal expressions.
- Design custom jewelry or clothing accessories that incorporate the "devil horns" and other music-related hand gestures, celebrating their role in music culture.
- Using materials like beads, wire, fabric, or even 3D printing, craft items such as bracelets, necklaces, or patches that feature stylized versions of these hand gestures. Wearing or sharing these creations can spark conversations about the history and significance of these symbols in music, allowing you to share what you've learned and connect with others who have similar interests.
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Origin and History of "Devil Horns" Hand Sign
The "devil horns" hand sign has become iconic in rock and metal music, but its origins have roots that transcend musical culture.
Origin of "Devil Horns" Hand Sign: Italian Gesture Against Evil Eye
The "devil horns" hand sign, referred to as a "corna" in Italian, meaning "horn," originates from Italy as a symbol to ward off the evil eye. It was a superstitious gesture used for protection, believed to counteract negative energies or ill-fortune.
Dio Popularized "Devil Horns" in Metal Scene
While the "devil horns" predate the heavy metal genre, it was vocalist Ronnie James Dio who popularized the gesture in the metal scene. Dio began using the gesture during concerts and public appearances, associating it with the theatrics of metal music. The sign quickly became a staple at rock concerts, synonymous with the rebellious and spirited nature of the genre.
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- The association of the "devil horns" with warding off the evil eye might be culturally specific to Italy, and its meaning could vary in different contexts or cultures.
- The claim that the sign was used primarily for protection against negative energies or ill-fortune could be challenged by historical instances where the gesture had different connotations.
- While Ronnie James Dio popularized the "devil horns" in the metal scene, it could be argued that its association with metal music might have evolved independently of his influence.
- The idea that Dio associated the gesture with the theatrics of metal music might be contested by suggesting that the sign's theatrical use in metal could have been a natural progression of the genre's flamboyant style rather than a deliberate association made by Dio.
- The assertion that the sign became a staple at rock concerts as a symbol of rebellion might be too narrow, as it could also be seen as a unifying fan gesture or a simple emulation of popular figures without rebellious intent.
- The claim that Geezer Butler used the "devil horns" before Dio might ...
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- You can create personalized jewelry or accessories featuring the "devil horns" hand sign to embrace its protective origins and showcase your interest in rock culture. Start by sketching a design that incorporates the hand sign and take it to a local artisan or use an online service to have it custom-made. This could be a pendant, a pin, or even a keychain that you carry with you as a personal talisman and conversation starter.
- Incorporate the "devil horns" hand sign into your creative projects to pay homage to its cultural significance. If you enjoy drawing, painting, or digital art, create a piece that features the gesture in an imaginative way. For example, you could depict a character in a story you're writing using the sign to overcome a challenge, or paint a scene where the hand sign is a symbol of unity at a concert setting.
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Other Hand Signs Used In Heavy Metal Music
Aside from the well-known "devil horns" hand sign, heavy metal bands have occasionally used or have been associated with other unique hand gestures.
Van Halen, Sammy Hagar Used Suggestive Hand Sign
Van Halen, during the Sammy Hagar era, adopted a particular hand sign. They combined two "I love you" gestures into a pose that suggested something more risqué.
Bands Like White Lion, Poison Had Unique Hand Signals
While White Lion has been jokingly said by Josh Clark to make a 'W' sign with two index fingers and thumbs touching, it was a fabrication for fun. However, the band Poison is said to have had their own hand signal involving an action where one snaps their fingers followed by slapping the hand atop a closed fist three times.
Gene Simmons Faced Backlash For Trying to Trademark the "Devil Horns" Hand Sign
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- Create your own unique hand signal to represent a personal value or interest, much like bands have done to symbolize their identity. Start by thinking about what matters most to you, such as a hobby, belief, or goal. Then, experiment with different finger positions and movements to create a gesture that feels both personal and expressive. Share it with friends or on social media to see if it resonates with others.
- Explore the legal aspects of intellectual property by researching gesture trademarks and their implications. Use the controversy around gesture ownership as a starting point to educate yourself on what can and cannot be trademarked. This knowledge could be useful if you ever create something you wish to protect legally, such as a logo, slogan, or even a hand gesture that becomes synonymous with your personal brand.
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Cultural and Symbolic Meaning of Hand Signs
Hand signs carry a rich history and meaning that transcend languages and cultures. In the world of music, particularly in metal concerts, hand gestures act as a powerful form of non-verbal communication, projecting both cultural references and musical appreciation.
Origins of Devil Horns Hand Sign in Italian Folklore
While not detailed in the provided content, it is significant to note the "devil horns" hand sign has connections to Italian folklore. Traditionally used to ward off the "evil eye" or as a superstitious gesture, the hand sign involves extending the index and little finger while holding down the middle and ring fingers with the thumb.
In Japan, the "Kitsune" Sign at Metal Concerts Represents a Fox Face
In Japan, the hand sign used at metal concerts, particularly by fans of the band Babymetal, varies slightly from the traditional devil horns seen in the West. The "Kitsune" sign, specific to Japanese metal shows, involves bringing the ring finger and middle finger together to touch the thumb, while the pinky and index finger are raised. This configuration represents the face of a fox and is rooted in Japanese culture, which often associates foxes with mythologica ...
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- The "devil horns" hand sign, commonly seen at metal concerts, involves extending the index and little finger while holding down the middle and ring fingers with the thumb. It is a gesture that signifies appreciation for the music and unity among fans, rather than having any occult or Satanic connotations. This hand sign has roots in Italian folklore, where it was traditionally used to ward off the "evil eye" or as a superstitious gesture. It has become a symbol of rock and heavy metal culture, representing enthusiasm for the genre and approval of the performance.
- The "Kitsune" sign used at Japanese metal shows involves bringing the ring finger and middle finger together to touch the thumb, while the pinky and index finger are raised. This hand gesture represents the face of a fox and is specific to Japanese metal culture, particularly associated with fans of the band Babymetal. The Kitsune sign is rooted in Japanese folklore, where foxes hold mythological significance. It serves as a symbol of unity and appreciation among fans at metal concerts in Japan.
- In Japanese culture, foxes, or "kitsune," hold mythological significance and are often seen a ...
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- While hand signs like the "devil horns" are widely recognized as symbols of rock and heavy metal culture, some individuals or groups may still interpret them as having occult or Satanic connections due to their historical connotations and visual similarities to symbols used in various esoteric traditions.
- The interpretation of hand signs can be subjective and context-dependent; what is seen as a positive gesture in one culture or community might be offensive or carry a different meaning in another.
- The "Kitsune" sign, while popularized by fans of Babymetal in Japan, may not be as widely recognized or used in metal concerts outside of that fan base, suggesting that the cultural transferability of specific hand signs may be limited.
- The assertion that hand signs at metal shows are purely for music appreciation could overlook the complex social dynamics at play, where such gestures may also serve to establish in-group identity or differentiate fans from mainstream culture.
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Events and Figures Related To "Devil Horns" Hand Sign
The cultural roots of the "Devil Horns" hand sign, an emblematic gesture in rock and heavy metal music, spark discussion and controversy with regard to its origins and claims of ownership.
Jynx Dawson, Coven Singer, May Have First Used "Devil Horns" Hand Sign
Josh Clark suggests that Jynx Dawson, the lead singer of Coven, may have been the first to use what is now recognized as the "Devil Horns" hand sign. Clark describes Coven as a band that played "super dark psychedelic rock," a genre undeniably fitting for such a symbol. Dawson, raised in a left-hand path house and educated as a Satanist in the tradition of Anton LaVey and Aleister Crowley, apparently embraced the sign as part of her identity. This pivotal connection to Dawson and Coven is illustrated by the "Devil Horns" being featured on the back cover of their album "Witchcraft Destroys Minds and Reaps Souls."
Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne Denied Direct Influence From Coven, Despite Eerie Coincidences in Their Origins
Connections between Coven and Black Sabbath have teased the minds of many rock aficionados, but members of Black Sabbath, including Ozzy Osbourne and Geezer Butler, have consistently denied any direct influence. Notably, at the time Black Sabbath was emerging in Chicago and transitioning from the name Earth to Black Sabbath, Coven had a bassist coincidentally named Greg Osbourne. Skeptics like Dom Lawson from Metal Hammer have pointed out that Coven's album probably didn't reach the UK, making it unlikely that Black Sabbath members had laid ears on it.
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- The claim that Jynx Dawson was the first to use the "Devil Horns" hand sign could be contested by the fact that similar gestures have been used throughout history in various cultures and contexts, which might diminish the uniqueness of Dawson's use.
- The presence of the "Devil Horns" on Coven's album cover does not necessarily indicate that Dawson was the first to use it in a musical or cultural context, as the gesture could have been part of the public domain prior to its association with the band.
- The denial of influence by Black Sabbath members could be seen as subjective and possibly unreliable, as influences in music are often indirect and subconscious.
- The coincidence of Black Sabbath having a bassist named Greg Osbourne could be just that—a coincidence—and may not hold any significant relevance to the origins of the "Devil Horns" hand sign.
- The assertion that Coven's album probably didn't reach the UK and therefore did not influence Black Sabbath could be challenged by the global nature of music distribution and the underground tape trading culture of the time.
- Gene Simmons' attempt to trademark a hand gesture could be criticized for trying to commercialize a symbol that is widely used and recognized in a specific c ...
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- Explore the origins of cultural symbols by creating a visual timeline of their history using free online tools like Canva or Adobe Spark. Start by researching various symbols, like the "Devil Horns," and trace their appearances in media, art, and public figures over time. This can help you understand how cultural symbols evolve and spread, and you might discover other symbols with interesting backgrounds to share with friends or on social media.
- Protect your creative expressions by learning about intellectual property rights through free resources provided by organizations like the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). By understanding the basics of trademarks and copyrights, you can better appreciate the challenges artists face when claiming ownership over their work, as seen with the "Devil Horns" hand sign controversy.
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