In this episode of Rotten Mango, the podcast examines the case of 13-year-old Levi, accused of murdering his neighbor Denise. The episode details the physical and digital evidence against him, including forensic findings at the crime scene, disturbing online searches about serial killers and strangulation methods, and inconsistent explanations for injuries. The case presents unique challenges in distinguishing between identical twins through DNA evidence.
The episode also explores the contrasting interrogations of Levi and his twin brother Hunter, revealing Hunter's struggle between recognizing mounting evidence and maintaining family loyalty. Through Hunter's perspective, the podcast traces Levi's history of psychological issues, including admitted violent urges and lack of empathy. With Levi's expected release in 2033, the episode raises questions about the adequacy of juvenile sentencing for violent crimes and concerns about future risk to public safety.

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Investigators detail a compelling combination of physical and digital evidence implicating Levi in the murder of his neighbor, Denise. The case builds across forensic findings, disturbing digital activity, and behavioral inconsistencies that together paint a troubling picture.
The forensic evidence is substantial. Investigators found Levi's watch broken underneath Denise's body, a fragment of green nitrile glove matching a box in Levi's closet, and bloodstained boots in his room. DNA evidence mixed both Levi's and Denise's blood at the scene, with investigators able to distinguish Levi's DNA from his identical twin brother, Hunter.
Levi's phone reveals even more disturbing details. He had compiled extensive research on serial killer methods, including psychological profiles, disposal techniques, and execution methods. On TikTok, Levi discussed his lack of empathy and admitted to killing animals. He repeatedly searched for strangulation methods—significant because Denise died by smothering. His phone camera was active for 20 minutes during the early morning hours when the murder occurred, and at 5:21 a.m., he searched for information about local police and news coverage. Days later, Levi messaged "I'm probably going to get caught" on TikTok before deleting it. In contrast, Hunter's phone showed no suspicious activity and was off during the crime.
Levi's explanation for facial scratches requiring five stitches—blaming the family cat, Marshmello—fell apart when investigators determined the cat's claws were too small to cause such injuries.
During police questioning, Levi displayed erratic behavior, fluctuating between appearing intellectually limited and demonstrating notable sophistication. When confronted with his blood at the scene, he offered implausible excuses, first suggesting it came from a blood transfusion he never had, then claiming someone planted it. Levi subtly attempted to implicate his twin brother, suggesting there could have been multiple people at the scene and emphasizing he couldn't see himself committing the crime alone—a strategy that mirrors real cases where identical twins avoided conviction by exploiting DNA evidence limitations.
Hunter's interrogation revealed his profound internal conflict. When shown a photo of Levi's watch at the crime scene, Hunter hyperventilated and broke down, yet continued defending his brother, insisting the evidence must be coincidental or planted. Hunter struggled between recognizing the mounting evidence and maintaining family loyalty, fearing that voicing suspicion would irreparably damage their bond.
Levi's psychological issues run deep. Hunter reveals that Levi had told family and therapists for at least a year that he felt empty, violent, and struggled with empathy. Levi admitted to killing animals as a child and openly discussed urges to hurt people. His interest in serial killers went beyond typical curiosity—he studied figures like Ted Bundy in detail, researching their psychology and methods, including cases where identical twins exploited DNA evidence to avoid conviction.
Despite their mother Becca's efforts to foster recovery through open communication and regular therapy following family trauma, Levi's issues persisted. Hunter notes that while he remained openly emotional, Levi processed trauma through detachment and withdrawal, with his repeated admissions about lacking empathy being normalized or dismissed by the family.
Levi pleaded guilty on November 10th, 2025, to aggravated murder, aggravated burglary, and strangulation, receiving the maximum juvenile sentence. He will remain in detention until age 21, with release expected in 2033. This outcome raises significant concerns among neighbors and law enforcement observers. One neighbor warned that anyone capable of such violence "needs to receive capital punishment" and predicted he would reoffend. Observers note that Levi's ability to evade confession at age 13 demonstrates remarkable composure, and years in the juvenile system could enhance his manipulation skills, potentially making him more dangerous upon release.
1-Page Summary
Investigators and those close to the case detail a combination of physical and digital evidence that increasingly implicates Levi as the primary suspect in the murder of Denise. From forensic matches at the scene to disturbing digital activity, the case against Levi builds across multiple domains.
Investigators inform Levi’s relatives that his watch was found broken underneath Denise’s body. During interrogations, Levi claims to have lost his watch after returning from the ER, but could not account for its whereabouts. Despite his attempts to deflect, detectives emphasize that the discovery of the watch directly at the crime scene is a powerful link.
A crucial piece of physical evidence is the discovery of a fragment of a green nitrile glove at the crime scene—gloves identical to those found boxed in Levi’s closet, further tying him to the location at the time of the murder.
Investigators also recover a pair of LL Bean boots with visible bloodstains from Levi’s room. This blood evidence is used to strengthen the connection between Levi and the violent incident.
DNA swabs from Levi are matched with blood found at Denise’s house. Investigators inform Levi that both his and Denise’s blood are mixed at the scene. Although Levi questions how his blood could be present, DNA is presented to him and his family as irrefutable evidence. While his twin, Hunter, also shares very similar DNA, it is noted that investigators are able to clearly distinguish Levi's DNA in the sample. When confronted with this, Hunter is in disbelief but acknowledges there’s a mounting pile of coincidences against Levi.
Levi’s phone provides disturbing insight into his mindset and intent. He has compiled extensive screenshots and information about serial killers’ modus operandi, psychological profiles, techniques and planning for executions, transport gear, and body disposal methods.
On TikTok, Levi sends messages boasting about having “very low empathy,” talks openly about previous animal killings—including cats, dogs, and squirrels—and expresses overt sadistic curiosity. He questions others about being sadistic and subsequently researches causes of sadism.
Levi repeatedly searches for methods of strangulation and timing—significant because Denise died by being smothered.
Levi is also active on his phone using the camera for 20 minutes during the early morning hours when the murder occurred. At 5:21 a.m., he resumes device activity, searching for the Fairfax, Ohio Police Department and related news coverage about the crime.
After the murder, Levi’s searches also include saliva drug tests, saliva swabs, juvenile detention centers, and how police conduct interviews—all suggesting concern about getting caught.
Physical and Digital Evidence Implicating Levi
Throughout Levi’s police interviews, investigators observe erratic and inconsistent behavior. Levi fluctuates between portraying himself as intellectually limited and displaying moments of notable sophistication. When asked about his activities and injuries, he sometimes appears confused or intentionally vague—claiming not to know whether he went to a hospital or urgent care for stitches, then specifying that his mother took him to urgent care but feigning surprise at its urgency.
When confronted with evidence, particularly his blood at Denise’s house, Levi offers implausible excuses. He first suggests perhaps it came from a blood transfusion, only to then admit he never had one. Shifting his approach, he muses that someone might have planted his blood at the scene, repeatedly pushing investigators to consider alternative, unlikely scenarios rather than straightforwardly explain his presence.
Levi further demonstrates a contrarian streak, frequently disagreeing with investigators’ statements. When a detective insists there are only “monsters” and “people who make mistakes” regarding murder, Levi disputes this dichotomy, arguing there are many different types of people and various explanations for murder, such as self-defense or manslaughter. This comment stands in stark contrast to his earlier feigning confusion about basic topics like geometry, highlighting the inconsistency in his intellectual presentation.
Levi’s nervousness is marked by physical tics—like cracking his knuckles—particularly when confronted with evidence, yet he remains notably calm when accused of grave crimes. His explanations for the scratches on his face also shift: initially blaming the family cat, then claiming he slipped in the shower and hit the shower sprayer, invoking his disability as a factor. Even as he overexplains some details, in other instances he is evasive or underexplains, offering incomplete or general answers about his knowledge of Denise, his neighbor, or key events.
During interrogation, Levi subtly tries to cast suspicion away from himself and toward his identical twin brother. He posits there could have been three people at Denise’s house during the crime, telling investigators “possibilities are possibilities,” and emphasizing he could never see himself committing the crime alone. Levi maintains ambiguity about whether he could have been present with someone else, using vague language and repeatedly returning to the idea that anything is possible.
This strategy appears intentional, especially given widely known cases where identical twins exploited DNA evidence limitations, resulting in no conviction because neither brother confessed. Levi seems aware that the presence of his DNA alone may not be enough for conviction if plausible doubt about his sole involvement is introduced.
Police Interrogations and Behavioral Inconsistencies
Levi’s psychological profile is marked by a documented lack of empathy and recurring violent impulses. According to Hunter, Levi often articulated to his family and therapists that he felt empty, violent, and struggled with empathy for others—though Hunter claims Levi shows immense capacity for family empathy, it is "just slightly less than for other people." These feelings were not suppressed: for at least the past year, Levi openly told Hunter about urges to hurt people, claiming he hadn't acted on them or had actual impulses to kill anybody. Levi described a persistent sense of emptiness and, despite his transparency, these troubling confessions were largely accepted or dismissed by the family as normal emotional expression.
Levi’s behavioral history also includes confessions to animal cruelty. He admitted to killing animals with a knife as a child, offering the excuse that he couldn't kill flies because they were too fast, which underscores a willingness to harm living beings when opportunity allowed. Such early acts of violence, combined with his emotional detachment, establish a concerning pattern. Hunter reports that although Levi talked about wanting to hurt people, he never behaved violently when triggered; instead, he would become withdrawn, upset, and cry, but without giving specific reasons or explanations for these emotions.
Levi’s fascination with serial killers went far beyond typical interest, veering into obsessive and detail-oriented study. Both Levi and Hunter were fans of true crime, but Hunter points out the difference: while Hunter would passively watch body camera footage on YouTube, Levi delved deeply into the psychology and methods of serial killers. Levi specifically studied notable figures like Ted Bundy, seeking to understand their psychology and tactics.
Levi’s research extended to details such as defeated forensic procedures and rare legal cases. Hunter mentions Levi likely encountered real-world cases where identical twins used their matching DNA to avoid conviction, knowing of instances where authorities could not prove which twin committed a crime and both went free. Levi’s low empathy, history of animal cruelty, violent inclinations, and detailed knowledge of how serial killers evade detection and prosecution suggest the possibility that Levi was formulating or at least deeply studying plans for violence—well beyond passive or morbid curiosity.
Underlying Levi’s psychological state is a foundation of familial trauma and efforts at mental health support. Hunter recounts significant trauma in the family’s past, with their mother, Becca, making concerted efforts to foster recovery and emotional growth: she promoted open communication, regular therapy, and transparent discussion of feelings. Becca herself journaled her at ...
Levi's Psychological Profile and Motivations
The interrogation of Hunter reveals a powerful internal struggle as he confronts mounting evidence against his twin brother, Levi, while desperately clinging to family loyalty. Hunter's emotional turmoil underscores the impossible position he faces as both a brother and a potential witness to the truth.
During the interrogation, Hunter is visibly conflicted. He recognizes the accumulating coincidences and pieces of evidence pointing toward Levi but continually stops himself from accepting their implication. He openly speculates about alternate scenarios: imagining Levi fabricating a story about scratching his face, then possibly sneaking out at night to commit the crime. Despite envisioning these possibilities, Hunter consistently rejects them, insisting, "I didn't believe that," and affirming, "that's something, I don't believe that's something he could actually do." He struggles with the idea, repeating, "it's just not possible," and rationalizes that there must be a misunderstanding or that someone else must be responsible for the bloodied evidence.
Even when investigators confront Hunter with the news that Levi’s DNA was found at the scene, Hunter resists accepting it. His head falls onto the table; he asks repeatedly if the details are true and expresses disbelief that his loving brother—the one he has cared for his entire life—could be responsible. Hunter repeatedly seeks assurance from the investigators, asking, "are you being 100% with me?" and insists, "there has to be some misunderstanding."
Hunter’s protectiveness is further seen when he expresses concern that voicing suspicion would break the profound trust between him and Levi. He says that if Levi were in his position and suspected of such a crime by his own twin, "the betrayal of suspecting your brother of being a killer would be too much." Hunter reasons that, even if all evidence suggested Levi’s involvement, declaring that suspicion aloud would irreparably damage their bond. He fears not just for Levi’s potential future, but also for the fracturing of their lifelong sibling relationship.
Hunter’s predicament is inescapable: he fears that voicing any suspicion about Levi to investigators would amount to an unforgivable act of betrayal. He worries that if Levi ever foun ...
Hunter's Internal Conflict and Moral Dilemma
Levi Carte eventually pleads guilty on November 10th, 2025, to charges of aggravated murder, aggravated burglary, and strangulation. He receives the maximum sentence allowed under juvenile law, which mandates that he remain in a juvenile detention facility until he turns 21. As a result, Levi is expected to be released in 2033, representing the earliest date of his possible release.
Levi’s impending release at age 21 raises significant concerns among neighbors, law enforcement observers, and the public. One neighbor told police that anyone capable of this kind of violence "needs to receive capital punishment" and warned, "You know if he gets out he’s going to do it again. You can’t cure that." This sentiment is echoed online, with commenters noting that 21 is a potentially dangerous age to release someone convicted of such a calculated crime.
Observers of Levi's interrogation highlight his ability, even at age 13, to respond to police with remarkable composure and sophistication, evading confession despite intense questioning. There is consensus ...
Guilty Plea, Sentencing, and Future Dangerousness
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