In this episode of Pursuit of Wellness, Mari Llewellyn and Fiona Attix have an unfiltered conversation covering several personal topics. Fiona shares her experience with GLP-1 medications like Ozempic, discussing weight regain after stopping treatment and her decision to view these medications as long-term management tools for neurobiological appetite regulation challenges. Mari reflects on how motherhood has shifted her priorities and increased her stress tolerance, while both discuss the intense scrutiny mothers face online.
The conversation also explores Mari and Fiona's friendship evolution after ending their professional partnership at Bloom. They describe working through the difficult transition from coworkers to friends, establishing healthier boundaries, and supporting each other through career changes and life milestones. Fiona discusses her fulfilling transition into real estate, and both share perspectives on romantic relationships, with Fiona describing her partnership with Jacob and the importance of consistent communication and mutual effort.

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Fiona Attix shares her personal experience with Glp-1 medications, describing how stopping Ozempic after 18 months led to an overwhelming resurgence of hunger and rapid weight regain despite maintaining rigorous exercise routines. This experience confirmed that her weight challenges required pharmaceutical intervention beyond behavioral changes alone. Her doctor emphasized that Glp-1s should be considered lifelong management tools for those with neurobiological appetite regulation challenges, similar to managing a chronic condition.
When restarting Glp-1 therapy—this time with compounded trizeptide—Fiona took a different approach informed by reading Enough by Oprah and Dr. Anya Jastreboff, which reframed obesity as a treatable medical disease rather than a personal failing. She now prioritizes protein intake to maintain muscle mass, incorporates practical pre-workout nutrition like high-protein Uncrustables, and works closely with her medical team to optimize her health while on medication.
Fiona describes her persistent "food noise"—intrusive thoughts about food that many naturally thin people don't experience. She explains this as a lifelong, family-linked phenomenon requiring pharmaceutical management rather than simple self-discipline. Acknowledging this neurobiological reality has given Fiona compassion for herself and a sustainable path forward that supports her metabolic health and addresses her food-related challenges.
Mari Llewellyn experiences a profound shift in priorities after becoming Kai's mother, finding that previous stressors around social media and public perception now feel insignificant. She describes increased stress tolerance and a focus almost entirely on Kai's wellbeing, recognizing her pre-motherhood concerns as somewhat narcissistic.
Kai's temperament—described as happy and easy-going with "Sagittarius energy"—has boosted Mari's confidence in early parenting, though she notes a challenging six-week colic period that, once resolved, made subsequent parenting feel easier. To support Kai's development and her own mental health, Mari actively plans activities and outings, enrolling him in toddler gymnastics and taking him to coffee shops, art galleries, and parks to prevent the repetitive "Groundhog Day" effect of staying home.
Parenting Kai brings up strong emotions about Mari's own childhood. Observing Kai's innocence triggers both increased empathy for her parents and anger about the trauma she experienced, creating a "mama bear" intensity to protect him from negativity. Mari and Fiona discuss how internet culture creates overwhelming scrutiny and impossible standards for mothers, with even simple parenting choices attracting intense criticism—often from non-parents. Both agree this pressure creates anxiety, but Mari prioritizes Kai's happiness over seeking approval from online critics.
Fiona describes leaving Bloom and parting ways with Mari as an experience akin to a breakup. The separation was difficult yet necessary, allowing her to focus on self-discovery and rebuild her confidence after what had been a codependent work dynamic. Fiona credits this departure as an essential catalyst for growth, emphasizing that she wouldn't have discovered her fulfilling new career path if she'd remained at Bloom. Mari encouraged Fiona to pursue opportunities matching her full skill set rather than settling for subordinate assistant roles.
In her new real estate career, Fiona has discovered work that suits her warm, friendly personality and natural abilities to connect and build relationships. She finds particular fulfillment in helping families secure homes and often forms genuine friendships with clients, socializing with them outside work. Real estate's cycles have taught Fiona to manage self-doubt during slow periods by trusting in the return of opportunity, developing career resilience.
Fiona emphasizes that her success stems from skills, knowledge, and confidence gained at Bloom with Mari. She contrasts her past lifestyle as a party-loving, self-neglecting twenty-something in LA with her current health-conscious, responsible approach, attributing this transformation largely to meeting Mari and working at Bloom. Despite the challenging separation, Fiona is now "tenfold happier" and successfully managing real estate complexities in Austin, demonstrating expertise in property evaluation, negotiations, inspections, and coordinating closings.
Mari and Fiona describe the intense codependency that developed during their four years working together at Bloom, spending nearly every waking moment together like "Paris and Nicole." Mari initiated the conversation to end their professional partnership—a conversation Fiona admits she never would have started herself. The separation felt like a breakup and was emotionally difficult for both, but it created necessary space for individual growth and forced them to navigate boundaries, ultimately strengthening their friendship.
Having always been coworkers before becoming friends, they had to "refigure out" their dynamic and work through challenging emotions including Fiona's feelings of abandonment and Mari's guilt. Through honesty and vulnerability, they rebuilt a friendship foundation that feels more authentic and balanced, separate from work pressures.
With Mari's transition into motherhood, Fiona embraced the role of "Auntie Fee" for Kai, coming over so consistently that Mari's nanny calls her the "Sunday friend" or "Domingo friend." Fiona defines true friendship as being able to sit comfortably together, scroll on phones, and share memes without pressure for constant engagement. Mari values Fiona's non-judgmental support in everyday motherhood tasks and looks forward to when Fiona becomes a mother herself, anticipating an even deeper level of shared understanding.
Fiona describes her relationship with Jacob as a deliberate departure from past patterns. Despite his demanding professional baseball career, Jacob consistently texts good morning, checks in during the day, and says goodnight—every single day since they met. His reliability disproving the excuse of being "too busy" shows Fiona what healthy, mutual commitment looks like, contrasting with previous partners who claimed to lack time.
Though in a long-distance relationship, with Jacob playing baseball and possibly moving states for teams while Fiona builds her business in Austin, both prioritize daily communication and have not gone a single day without meaningful conversation. Jacob actively includes Fiona in his hobbies like golf, teaching her out of genuine desire to share what he enjoys rather than treating her presence as a burden. Their mutual effort to spend quality time while maintaining personal interests and friendships models a mature, balanced relationship.
From early on, Fiona and Jacob openly discuss marriage and future commitment, with Fiona expressing she cannot imagine a day without him. She and Mari even plan outings to jewelry stores to try on engagement rings, illustrating how their friendship supports and celebrates their romantic journeys. Fiona's own happiness in her relationship fuels her encouragement for friends navigating dating difficulties, reminding them not to settle and that compatible partners can arrive when least expected.
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Fiona Attix details her personal journey using Glp-1 medications for weight management, illustrating their essential role in managing her metabolic function and appetite. After taking Ozempic for 18 months and maintaining her weight with routine exercise and meal prepping, Fiona felt confident she could maintain her progress off medication. However, within 2.5 months of discontinuing Ozempic, despite maintaining and even increasing her physical activity, she experienced an overwhelming resurgence in hunger and food “noise,” quickly regaining the weight she had lost. This experience confirmed to her that her challenges with weight were not simply about behavior—her body’s metabolic and neurological mechanisms required pharmaceutical intervention.
Fiona explains that, for her, exercise and meticulous dietary habits alone were unsustainable and ultimately ineffective in the long run without medical support. In conversations with her doctor, Fiona learned that Glp-1 medications should be considered lifelong tools for weight management rather than temporary aids. Her physician emphasized that for people with neurobiological challenges regulating appetite, Glp-1s are not just to be used for short-term loss, but as ongoing management, much like a chronic condition.
Upon her initial use, Fiona noticed negative side effects from Glp-1 therapy, including hair loss, muscle loss, and under-eating, which diminished many of the benefits of her weight loss. She realized through reading Enough by Oprah and Dr. Anya Jastreboff that her approach needed to change. The book reframed obesity as a treatable medical disease, not a personal failing, lifting a “weight off her shoulders” by identifying her food focus as neurobiological, not just a matter of weak willpower or poor choices.
Fiona recounts how social messaging—especially from online wellness figures—suggests that weight loss is simply about eating less and exercising more, but her lived experience differed. Even times of intense gym commitment and aggressive dietary tracking only produced temporary and unsustainable results, highlighting her need for pharmaceutical support due to genetic and neurologically-based food preoccupation.
With her medical team, Fiona returned to Glp-1 therapy—this time using compounded trizeptide under her doctor’s guidance, starting with a low dose and monitoring for side effects, intent on optimizing her overall health. Fiona places renewed focus on nutrition, particularly protein intake, to help maintain muscle mass and metabolic function on the medication. She prioritizes protein from eggs and meats at every opportunity, a marked shift from her earlier approach when she would sometimes opt for less nutrient-dense choices like sourdough bread.
Fiona also integrates practical pre-workout nutrition, favoring high-protein Uncrustables before lifting, which significantly boosts her workout performance compared to fas ...
Glp-1 Medications and Weight Management
After becoming Kai’s mother, Mari Llewellyn experiences a profound shift in her priorities and perspective. Where stress and concerns about social media and public perception once loomed large, motherhood has rendered many of these issues insignificant. Mari openly acknowledges that her stress tolerance has increased and she’s become unbothered by things that used to cause anxiety, focusing almost entirely on Kai’s wellbeing. Reflecting on pre-motherhood, she notes self-involvement and the misconception that everyone is paying attention to one’s actions, realizing now that most people aren’t thinking about her at all.
This change in focus is also mirrored in how Mari approaches personal time. What once would have been a solo, stressful laser facial appointment now feels luxurious—almost like a spa day—when compared to the daily responsibilities of motherhood. She recognizes her previous concerns as somewhat narcissistic and feels liberated by her new perspective, emphasizing that her main concern now is Kai’s feelings and experiences.
Kai’s temperament provides Mari with confidence and ease during her early months of motherhood. Described as a smiley baby with “happy, easy-going Sagittarius energy,” Kai charms everyone around him, smiling at strangers during outings to art galleries and coffee shops. Fiona Attix notes his friendly and cheerful nature, describing him as a “flirt” and a joy.
However, Mari also recalls that Kai had a challenging six-week period of colic exacerbated by a tongue issue, causing distress for both mother and child. Once that difficult phase passed, Kai transformed into a contented and smiley baby, which Mari finds made all subsequent parenting much easier. She feels grateful for having navigated those early challenges, as it put later difficulties into perspective and helped her feel more capable.
Kai’s rapid physical development is another source of pride for Mari. He experiments with crawling motions, such as using his head for leverage or “swimming” when he wants something, even before reaching the typical crawling ages of eight to ten months. Mari speculates that he may achieve this milestone earlier than average.
Intent on supporting Kai’s development and safeguarding her own mental health, Mari actively plans a variety of activities and outings. She has enrolled Kai in toddler gymnastics classes in September, where he’ll have the opportunity to hang, tumble, and improve body awareness. This, she believes, supports both his physical skills and confidence.
In response to the repetitive feel of days spent entirely at home—described as “Groundhog Day” or “Twilight Zone” effect—Mari takes Kai to coffee shops, art galleries, libraries, playgrounds, and parks. She finds that getting out for both morning and afternoon activities is essential not only to provide Kai with stimulation and variety but also for her own well-being as a mother. These routines prevent the house from descending into chaos and keep both mother and child content and engaged.
Parenting Kai brings up strong emotions and memories about Mari’s own childhood. Observing Kai’s innocence, happiness, and pure joy, Mari feels a powerful instinct to protect him—reacting with anger at the thought that anyone would harm a child’s wellbeing or withhold involvement in their life, reflecting her own past pain. Motherhood evokes a duality for her: increased empathy for her parents while also wrestling with anger about the trauma she experi ...
Motherhood and Parenting
Fiona Attix describes leaving Bloom and parting ways with Mari as an experience akin to a breakup. She reflects on how difficult yet necessary the separation was, especially as she grappled with a loss of identity after moving to Austin and ending a previous relationship. The tight, almost codependent work dynamic with Mari had become the last constant in her life, making the break both daunting and liberating. Fiona acknowledges that if she hadn’t left Bloom and Mari, she wouldn’t have been able to focus on self-discovery or redefine who she was outside of that partnership. The end of that period prompted her to reset and rebuild her confidence, leading to a dramatic turnaround in her life. Fiona emphasizes that she's now with a new partner, feels happier, and discovered fulfilling career paths she’d never have considered if she remained at Bloom.
Mari remembers Fiona considering becoming an assistant again after their time together. She recalls encouraging Fiona to seek roles that matched her broad range of talents, rather than settling for subordinate positions. Mari recognized Fiona's untapped potential and wanted her to pursue paths aligning with her abilities and confidence.
Fiona credits Mari's departure as an essential catalyst for her own growth, allowing her to step out of old patterns and challenge herself. She notes that the confidence and knowledge she brings to her career now stemmed from their time together—the skills gained at Bloom and on the podcast laid a strong foundation for her self-belief and success.
In her new role, Fiona has discovered that real estate suits her warm and friendly personality. Mari praises Fiona’s natural abilities to connect, network, and form relationships, traits that now define her career.
Fiona finds the work fun and fulfilling, as it involves meeting people she might not otherwise encounter and forming genuine friendships with clients. She often socializes with them outside work, attending movie nights or hanging out, which deepens those connections.
Fiona finds particular fulfillment in helping families secure homes. She shares the example of a client family under contract whose newborn arrived around the same time as her own child, heightening her emotional investment and satisfaction from supporting their milestone.
She acknowledges that real estate is a professional roller coaster, full of ups and downs that can spark self-doubt during slow periods. Yet, Fiona has learned to ride these cycles, trusting in the return of opportunity and using the momentum to build resilience in her career.
Fiona emphasizes that her success in real estate is rooted in her experiences at Bloom with Mari. The skills she learned managing Bloom now enhance her client and property management capabilities, fueling her achievements and self-assurance.
Reflecting on her personal transformation, Fiona contrasts her past lifestyle as ...
Career Transitions and Personal Growth
Mari Llewellyn and Fiona Attix describe the intense codependency that developed during their years working together at Bloom. They recall how, for four years, they spent nearly every waking moment together, comparing their bond to "Paris and Nicole" and "tweedledee tweedledum," running around LA and seizing opportunities side by side. Mari points out that, despite public perception, their partnership was the true powerhouse behind Bloom.
The catalyst for change came when Mari initiated the conversation to end their professional partnership—a conversation Fiona admits she never would have started herself. Fiona expresses appreciation for Mari having the hard conversation, admitting she tends to struggle with moving on from familiar roles, even when change is needed. The actual separation, described as feeling like a breakup, was emotionally tough for both. Mari recalls it as one of the worst days of her life, while Fiona remembers the uncertainty and the challenge of figuring out her next steps, especially after moving to Austin.
Both agree that ending their work relationship, though difficult, created space for individual growth. Fiona recognizes that staying at Bloom would have kept her from developing her own identity and figuring out her next path. The separation forced both to confront uncomfortable emotions and move forward independently, ultimately balancing their identities as coworkers and friends.
Having always been coworkers before becoming friends, Mari and Fiona had to "refigure out" their dynamic once the business relationship ended. Navigating this transition and the challenging emotions of separation—including Fiona's sense of abandonment and Mari's feelings of guilt—challenged both to define and uphold healthier boundaries.
Both discuss how the experience, much like a breakup, ultimately brought them closer by allowing their friendship to take center stage, separate from the pressures and expectations of work. Mari always saw Fiona as her "soul sister" and believed their connection would outlast their professional roles. Through honesty and vulnerability, the two rebuilt a stable friendship foundation that feels more authentic and balanced.
With Mari's transition into motherhood, Fiona stepped into the role of "Auntie Fee" for Mari’s child, Kai. Fiona helps Mari with routine tasks like putting Kai down for naps and celebrates shared successes with her. Mari expresses deep gratitude that Fiona happily embraces her new life, never making her feel guilty for the shifts in priorities that come with parenting.
Fiona’s involvement is so consistent that Mari’s nanny calls her the "Sunday friend," or "Domingo friend"/"Amiga Domingo," because Fiona comes over every Sunday. Fiona enjoys her ...
Friendship Evolution and Healthy Boundaries
Fiona Attix describes her relationship with Jacob as a deliberate departure from past patterns. Jacob consistently makes effort despite the demands of his professional baseball career. Every day since they met, Jacob texts Fiona good morning, checks in during the day, and says goodnight. Fiona emphasizes that even with his packed schedule and travel, Jacob always finds time to connect, disproving the typical excuse that someone can be “too busy” if they truly value the relationship. This consistent effort sets a higher standard for attention and care, contrasting with Fiona’s previous partners who claimed to be too busy. Jacob’s reliability and small daily actions help Fiona overcome her old fear of staying in relationships too long without reciprocity, showing her what healthy, mutual commitment looks like.
Though they are in a long-distance relationship—Jacob playing baseball and the possibility of him moving states for teams, while Fiona stays in Austin building her business—both prioritize their relationship through daily communication. They have not gone a single day without meaningful conversation or support. Fiona plans regular trips to North Carolina to maximize their time together, and she makes space for Jacob’s friendships with his teammates, combining visits with golf outings. This balance of togetherness and respecting individual needs allows their partnership to thrive despite geographic and career challenges.
Jacob’s attitude toward Fiona’s participation in his hobbies, namely golf, further highlights their healthy dynamic. He teaches Fiona to golf out of a genuine desire to share what he enjoys, never treating her presence as a burden. In previous relationships, Fiona’s partners made excuses to avoid her or framed her as an interference in their plans. In contrast, Jacob actively wants Fiona involved but also respects her independence and time with friends. Their mutual effort to spend quality time, alongside maintaining personal interests and friendships, is a model of a mature, balanced relationship.
From early on, Fiona and Jacob openly discuss marriage and future commitment, making these talks a natural part of their relationship. Fiona feels aligned with Jacob, expressing s ...
Romantic Relationships and Life Partnerships
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