In this episode of NPR's Book of the Day, historian Julian Zelizer discusses President Biden's legacy as evaluated in a new book. Zelizer examines Biden's central goal of defeating MAGA politics, explaining how Biden inherited a deeply divided nation but ultimately failed to eliminate the movement's influence, as evidenced by Trump's 2024 election victory. The conversation explores Biden's efforts to restore Justice Department independence and the institutional protections he and Attorney General Merrick Garland rebuilt.
The episode also addresses the disconnect between Biden's policy achievements and his inability to secure working-class support, with inflation obscuring real gains in manufacturing and education. Zelizer contrasts Biden's traditional communication approach with Trump's mastery of modern media platforms, arguing that ineffective messaging prevented voters from recognizing Biden's domestic policy successes. The discussion offers insights into why Democrats struggled to translate legislative accomplishments into electoral victories.

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Julian Zelizer explains that President Biden's primary objective was to eliminate MAGA republicanism from American political life. Biden promised that by the end of his term, both the extreme policies and hyper-partisan style associated with MAGA would be gone. However, Zelizer concludes this effort clearly failed—Trump won the 2024 election and returned to the Oval Office, demonstrating that polarization and MAGA's influence remain strong.
Zelizer notes that Biden inherited a deeply divided nation with systemic obstacles including gerrymandering, a partisan Congress, and a Republican Party that had shifted far right with little interest in compromise. Biden, like Obama before him, underestimated the depth of ideological division in both the electorate and the political system itself, believing the red-blue narrative overstated actual divisions when in fact those divisions were deeply entrenched.
Zelizer explains that Biden and Attorney General Merrick Garland deliberately rebuilt the Watergate-era firewalls separating the Justice Department from presidential political influence. Garland made significant progress restoring these protections even while handling sensitive investigations involving the former president and efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
Zelizer describes Biden's approach as a constitutional model for protecting the rule of law and preventing weaponization of the Justice Department against political opponents. However, he notes a concerning trend: Trump does not share Biden's commitment to Justice Department independence and has actively worked to erode these restored protections. The growing acceptance of using the DOJ as a political tool marks a dangerous regression from the standards Biden and Garland aimed to reestablish.
Despite Biden positioning himself as "Scranton Joe" and walking picket lines, Scott Tong notes he ultimately failed to secure significant support from non-college-educated working-class Americans in 2024.
Zelizer acknowledges that Biden made real progress on working-class issues including reducing education costs, addressing prices, and investing in manufacturing. However, persistent inflation obscured these policy gains, making it difficult for voters to feel the positive impact amidst rising costs and budget pressures. Many working-class Americans felt Biden's agenda didn't sufficiently address their continued challenges—high education and housing costs, stagnant wages, and growing wealth inequality.
Looking forward, the analysis suggests Democrats could improve their prospects by centering efforts on economic policies directly benefiting the working class rather than cultural messaging, and by building durable coalitions beyond election cycles. While Biden accomplished significant policy gains, failure to connect these achievements to voters' lived experiences contributed to electoral losses.
Zelizer observes that Trump skillfully uses modern media—from podcasts to social media platforms—to maintain visibility and communicate directly with voters. In contrast, Biden relies on traditional media like newspapers and network television, reflecting an earlier era's communication style. Trump's comfort with platforms like Joe Rogan's podcast and Truth Social keeps him constantly visible and engaging with audiences through current digital channels.
Trump also weaponized his legal challenges, presenting himself as a victim of political persecution rather than a defeated president. His mastery of modern media allowed this narrative to gain traction among supporters. Zelizer argues that while Biden made substantial progress on domestic policy, ineffective communication meant these achievements didn't register strongly with voters. Without effectively highlighting policy successes, Democrats contributed not only to Biden's electoral loss but also to the erosion of a potentially transformative policy agenda.
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Julian Zelizer explains that a major objective of President Biden’s administration was to defeat MAGA republicanism. During his initial campaign, Biden vowed that by the end of his term, not only the extreme policies but also the hyper-partisan style of politics associated with MAGA would be eliminated from American political life. However, Zelizer concludes that Biden clearly did not succeed in this aim. Donald Trump, the very person Biden pledged to remove from political relevance, won the 2024 election and returned to the Oval Office, proving that polarization and MAGA’s influence persist.
Despite Biden’s promises, the outcome of the 2024 election—with Trump reclaiming political power—demonstrates that efforts to overcome MAGA republicanism and reduce national polarization were ineffective. Biden’s decision to run again and the ultimate withdrawal from the race did not prevent the return of Trump, showing that the nation’s divisions remain firmly in place.
Scott Tong notes that Biden entered office facing a deeply polarized country. Zelizer elaborates that Biden was confronted by systemic obstacles, including entrenched political polarization supported by institutions and prevailing political culture. The political system, shaped by gerrymandering and the workings of Congress, privileged partisanship over con ...
Biden's Attempt to Unite and Defeat Maga Fails
Julian Zelizer explains that President Biden and Attorney General Merrick Garland were deliberate in rebuilding the firewalls established after Watergate, which serve to separate the Justice Department’s investigations from presidential political influence. Garland, as detailed in Noah Rosenblum’s essay, made significant progress in restoring these protections even in the exceptional context of ongoing investigations involving the former president and his efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
Garland reestablished measures designed during the post-Watergate era to ensure the Justice Department operated independently and investigatory decisions were not subject to presidential interference. These firewalls were tested with the sensitive issue of investigating a former president, yet Garland maintained the department’s autonomy.
Zelizer describes Biden’s approach as a model for future administrations. Although achieving complete independence may be idealistic, especially in the current political climate that differs significantly from the post-Watergate period, Biden’s efforts serve as a necessary example. Zelizer underscores the constitutional and democratic importance of keeping the Justic ...
Judicial Independence and Restoring Firewalls at Justice Department
President Biden entered office aiming to bridge the gap with non-college-educated working-class Americans, often presenting himself as "Scranton Joe" and showing visible support such as walking the picket line. However, according to Scott Tong, Biden ultimately failed to secure significant support from this demographic in the 2024 election results.
Julian Zelizer notes that Biden made real progress on issues relevant to the working class, including reducing education costs, addressing prices, and investing in forms of new manufacturing. Over his four years, these policies represented significant steps toward creating economic opportunity and targeting work sector revitalization.
Despite these accomplishments, persistent inflation remained a major challenge to Biden's messaging. Rising costs and budget pressures on voters obscured the practical gains from his policies, making it difficult for working-class Americans to feel the positive impact. This disconnect limited Biden’s ability to resonate with these voters on bread-and-butter economic issues.
Even with policy achievements, many working-class Americans felt Biden’s agenda did not sufficiently address the continued economic challenges they face—the high cost of education and housing, stagnant wages, and growing wealth inequality. As a result, tangible improvements for these Americans were limited, contributing to their lack of strong support for his administration and reelection campaign.
Achievements vs. Failure to Connect With Working-Class Voters
Julian Zelizer observes that former President Trump skillfully uses the modern media landscape, from podcasts to social media platforms, to remain in the public eye and communicate with voters. In contrast, President Biden relies on more traditional forms of media such as newspapers and network television, reflecting a communications style rooted in an earlier era. Despite being from the same generation, Trump is comfortable in spaces like Joe Rogan's podcast and Truth Social, keeping himself constantly visible and engaging with audiences through current digital channels.
Trump's command of new media is a critical factor in his continued political relevance. He knows how to use emerging platforms effectively, ensuring his messages reach audiences directly and unfiltered. Biden's approach, centered on established media, does not resonate as strongly in a media environment where traditional outlets have less influence and digital platforms shape public opinion rapidly.
Trump also turned ongoing investigations and legal cases to his advantage. Zelizer notes that Trump weaponized these challenges to present himself as a victim of political persecution, rather than the image of a defeated, one-term president. His adeptness with modern media channels allowed this narrative to gain traction and sympathy among supporters, reinforcing his political brand and further energizing his base.
Communication and Media Strategy vs. Trump's Effectiveness
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