In this episode of Making Sense with Sam Harris, former Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel discusses the Democratic Party's direction and challenges across foreign policy, education, and domestic politics. Emanuel argues that the Biden administration's focus on Iran has weakened America's position in the Indo-Pacific, allowing China to expand its influence while allies question U.S. commitment. He critiques the Democratic Party's recent emphasis on identity politics over fundamental issues like education and economic opportunity, pointing to Mississippi's reading score improvements as evidence that science-based reform and accountability work.
Emanuel also addresses rising anti-Semitism in America and his longstanding disagreements with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over West Bank policy and the prospects for a two-state solution. Signaling interest in a 2028 presidential run, Emanuel presents his record of results across multiple levels of government and frames his potential campaign as focused on the future rather than nostalgia for the past.

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Rahm Emanuel argues that President Biden will enter upcoming talks with China's Xi Jinping from a weakened position, primarily due to the administration's preoccupation with the Iran crisis. This distraction diverts crucial resources from the Indo-Pacific, allowing China to expand its influence unchecked. Emanuel notes that Pacific allies including Japan, South Korea, Australia, and India are anxious about U.S. reliability, fearing Biden seeks Xi's approval and may "give away the store" during negotiations. He characterizes Biden's approach as one who "punches down, kisses up" to authoritarian leaders.
Emanuel criticizes specific decisions that have undermined U.S. credibility, including removing the THAAD missile defense system from South Korea and withdrawing an aircraft carrier from Okinawa. While the U.S. remains distracted, China has resumed island-building in the South China Sea after five years, constructing near the Philippine coast in illegally claimed waters through which 40% of maritime GDP flows. Emanuel explains that U.S. foreign policy failures have economically benefited China, with higher energy prices alleviating Chinese deflation and boosting exports, while Xi leverages his position on Iran to demand diplomatic concessions.
Mississippi's dramatic improvement in reading scores demonstrates that education reform grounded in science-based instruction and strong accountability can produce significant gains. The state leaped from 49th to 9th nationally and now outperforms Massachusetts when demographics are considered. This transformation resulted from mandated phonics-based instruction, comprehensive teacher retraining, literacy coaches in every school, and daily reading instruction starting in kindergarten. Students must demonstrate third-grade proficiency with three chances to pass, receiving extra tutoring rather than simple promotion if they struggle.
Other Southern states including Alabama, Louisiana, and Tennessee saw massive increases in reading achievement after adopting Mississippi's comprehensive approach. However, the backlash against No Child Left Behind led many states to abandon measurement and accountability altogether. This retreat contributed to a 30-year low in literacy, with half of American third-graders unable to read at grade level. Mississippi's success came through rejecting vouchers and investing public resources directly into public schools with strong accountability, demonstrating that balanced use of standards and testing as tools for improvement—not as the sole driver of instruction—yields results.
Emanuel critiques the Democratic Party's recent focus on identity politics at the expense of fundamental issues affecting families' lives. He laments that in 2024, Democrats succeeded primarily on issues like bathroom access while neglecting "kitchen table" and "family room" concerns about economic opportunity. Emanuel argues the party should remain a culture of acceptance but crossed a line by moving from inclusivity to advocacy on contentious cultural issues in campaigns. As Chicago mayor, he signed bathroom access policies but maintained focus on tangible achievements like improving graduation rates and reading scores.
Emanuel warns that Democratic advocacy regarding transgender athlete policies risks undermining Title IX, one of the party's greatest legislative accomplishments that made the U.S. dominant in women's sports. He stresses that half of American children can't read at grade level—a far more urgent issue than debates over identity policies. Emanuel personally visited Mississippi to review its science-of-reading initiative, which he calls a "miracle," and urges Democratic leaders to prioritize these proven educational solutions and demonstrate courage in adopting them nationwide.
Emanuel observes that anti-Semitism has become normalized and increasingly public in American society, with minimal consequences for those who espouse it. This has created a permissive environment where anti-Jewish sentiment has escalated from speech to violence, including attacks at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh and incidents in Colorado and Washington, DC. Sam Harris highlights data showing 77% of Democrats view Israel's actions in Gaza as genocide, which Emanuel sees as evidence of dangerous conflation between criticism of Israel's policy and outright hostility toward Israel's existence.
Emanuel recounts his long-standing conflict with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, stemming from disagreements over West Bank housing expansion, which Emanuel believes destroyed prospects for a two-state solution. He contrasts Netanyahu unfavorably with previous Israeli leaders like Yitzhak Rabin, who balanced military necessity with diplomatic initiatives. Emanuel argues Netanyahu has never pursued meaningful diplomacy, instead presiding over "endless wars" and shifting Israel's strategy from integrating military and political solutions to wielding violence disconnected from any strategic political endgame. Emanuel criticizes the Trump administration's failure to capitalize on Iranian willingness in nuclear talks and argues sustainable peace requires both sides to abandon extreme positions—Palestinian "river to the sea" claims and Israeli "Greater Israel" expansion—in favor of two nations living side by side with mutual respect.
Emanuel signals serious interest in running for president in 2028, framing his prospective campaign as a break from nostalgic politics. He criticizes the last twelve years under Presidents Trump and Biden as fixated on restoring a past that no longer exists and "was not good to all Americans." Emanuel insists his campaign would focus on addressing emerging challenges to improve conditions for younger generations, stating "2028, I'm going to make a bit about the future and who has a plan to make that future."
Emanuel presents his record as evidence of his capacity to deliver results across multiple levels of government. As President Clinton's senior advisor, he managed the crime bill, assault weapon ban, welfare reform, and immigration policy. As President Obama's first chief of staff, he played a hands-on role in passing the Affordable Care Act, financial reform, and the auto industry bailout. As Chicago mayor, he oversaw dramatic transformation of public schools from what William Bennett called the "worst in America" to among the top 100 according to Stanford's Sean Reiner. Emanuel emphasizes his drive has never been about accumulating titles but about achieving results, consistently invoking his belief that "tough times require a tough leader, have the khunas to get it done."
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Rahm Emanuel notes that President Biden is set to meet with China’s President Xi Jinping in about six weeks, but will enter the talks in a weakened position, mainly due to the ongoing Iran crisis and related challenges. According to Emanuel, the Biden administration’s preoccupation with Iran diverts critical resources and attention away from the Indo-Pacific, allowing China to expand its influence largely unchecked. This strategic distraction provides China with a regional advantage, as the U.S. appears less capable of counterbalancing Beijing’s moves in Asia while embroiled in Middle Eastern complications.
This apparent weakness is not lost on America’s Indo-Pacific partners. Pacific allies—including Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, and India—are reportedly anxious about the United States’ reliability and concern that President Biden seeks affirmation from Xi. Emanuel emphasizes that allies believe the president lacks resolve to stand up to Xi and may “give away the store” during negotiations. This stance leaves allies “holding their breath,” unsure if the U.S. will maintain its posture as a permanent Pacific power. Emanuel characterizes Biden’s approach as one who “punches down, kisses up,” implying Biden is eager for approval from authoritarian leaders like Xi and Putin, further calling into question U.S. dedication to its partners.
Emanuel criticizes the administration for specific decisions that have undermined U.S. military credibility and strategic relationships. The removal of the THAAD missile defense system from South Korea and the withdrawal of an aircraft carrier from Okinawa, along with other unspecified deterrence assets, weaken America’s posture in the region. Furthermore, Emanuel argues that U.S. policy actions have irritated or reversed a 30-year initiative to draw India closer, pointing to issues with Pakistan policy and actions that degraded Prime Minister Modi.
While U.S. attention is consumed by Iran, China has taken the opportunity to resume island-building in the South China Sea after five years, constructing a new island near the Philippine coast. This move is particularly alarming as China illegally claims those waters, which are critical international waterways through which 40% of maritime GDP flows. Emanuel points out that such actions by China go largely unchall ...
Foreign Policy and US-China Relations in Indo-Pacific
The dramatic improvement in Mississippi's reading scores is often cited as proof that education reform grounded in science-based instruction, high standards, and strong accountability can produce significant gains in public schools. Other Southern states have begun replicating the model, generating similar progress, while a retreat from measurement and standards elsewhere in the U.S. has deepened a literacy crisis.
Mississippi’s transformation is striking: once 49th in national reading scores, the state now ranks ninth and, when demographics are considered, even outperforms long-time leader Massachusetts. This leap is the product of systematic reform over two decades.
The state mandated phonics-based literacy instruction statewide, disallowing opt-in or opt-out. Every teacher was retrained in scientific methods of reading instruction, and literacy coaches were assigned to every school to maintain continuous focus on evidence-based practice for both teachers and principals.
Starting in kindergarten and first grade, Mississippi students receive at least one hour and fifteen minutes of reading instruction daily. Students must demonstrate proficiency by the third grade, with three chances to pass. Those who struggle are not simply promoted; instead, they’re given extra tutoring and support. Retention is enforced for those who do not meet the standard, ensuring accountability and opportunities for targeted intervention.
States such as Alabama, Louisiana, and Tennessee saw massive increases in reading achievement after adopting Mississippi’s comprehensive approach. These states also mandated phonics-based instruction, invested in retraining teachers, placed literacy coaches in schools, and upheld clear accountability standards.
States that adopted the full spectrum of reforms—not just academic changes but support structures for teachers and students, mandated methodologies, and statutory standards—saw consistent and rapid gains. This demonstrates that literacy improvement is possible across diverse settings if approached with evidence-based strategies and sustained commitment.
The backlash against the test-centric No Child Left Behind policy led to a widespread retreat from vital measurement and accountability. Instead of recalibrating the role of assessment, many states, led by Democrats, abandoned standards altogether—a mistake that left both progress and persistent struggles invisible.
As a consequence, the nation’s literacy rate dropped to a 30-year low, with half of American third-graders unable to read at grade level. With no measurement, struggling students’ deficits are untracked, and there’s little direction for intervention. The lack of concern over failing third-graders portends trouble for future academic outcomes.
The original intent behind standards and accountability was misapplied, with testing elevated from a means of reflection to the end goal—the only thing that mattered in classrooms. Abandoning all measurement as a remedy was flawed. The solution is to recalibrate, using testing as a measure of progress and a ...
Education Reform, Reading Scores, Accountability Standards
Rahm Emanuel critiques the Democratic Party's recent focus on identity politics at the expense of more pressing, fundamental issues that affect families' everyday lives and the economic wellbeing of Americans.
Emanuel expresses concern that, during the 2024 election, the Democratic Party's messaging succeeded primarily on issues such as bathroom access, while neglecting critical "kitchen table" and "family room" issues concerning economic opportunity and quality of life—areas where Democrats historically hold strength. He laments, "we weren't really good in 2024 when we talked about the kitchen table, the family room, the only room we did well was the bathroom, and it's the smallest room in the house." Emanuel argues that voters perceived the party's cultural grievance politics as a failure, recognizing that focusing on identity concerns produced negative consequences and alienated constituents prioritizing material wellbeing.
Emanuel says the party should remain a culture of acceptance, but it crossed a line by moving from inclusivity to advocacy on contentious cultural issues in campaigns. As mayor of Chicago, he signed bathroom access policies but maintained a focus on tangible achievements such as improving graduation rates, reading scores, and math scores, illustrating that cultural advocacy should not overshadow core areas of Democratic governance. He claims this shift caused Democrats to lose focus on their achievements in education quality and economic opportunity, and ultimately contributed to losses in the culture wars as the party brought these battles to schools.
Emanuel points to the risk in Democratic advocacy regarding policies that blur gender distinctions in sports, particularly around the participation of transgender athletes. He emphasizes that the U.S. has become dominant in women's sports like soccer, hockey, and swimming primarily due to Title IX, which advanced gender equality in sports. He warns that supporting policies perceived to undermine Title IX protections for female athletes threatens to erode one of the party’s g ...
Democratic Strategy: From Identity Politics to Key Issues
Rahm Emanuel observes a significant and troubling change in American society regarding anti-Semitism. He recalls how, when he first ran for Congress in 2002, certain anti-Semitic tropes were whispered or implied, but open expressions and violent acts against Jews were socially unacceptable. Emanuel points out that over time, this has shifted—anti-Semitism has become normalized and increasingly public, with minimal consequences for those who espouse it.
This normalization has emboldened individuals, leading to a permissive environment where anti-Jewish sentiment has escalated from speech to violence. Emanuel cites violent attacks against Jewish communities, specifically mentioning the Tree of Life synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh, attacks in Colorado, and incidents in Washington, DC, as examples of the shift from verbal to physical hostility. He expresses deep concern about what has happened in public discourse and society to enable this change, warning that the rise in anti-Semitic violence signals an erosion of norms that protect minority communities.
Sam Harris highlights data showing that 77% of Democrats view Israel's actions in Gaza as genocide, with only 11% rejecting that characterization. Harris suggests this will become a significant issue within the Democratic Party. Emanuel sees this as evidence of a dangerous conflation between criticism of Israel’s policy and outright hostility toward Israel’s existence, showing how segments of the Democratic base and activist circles equate Israel’s military actions with genocide.
Emanuel argues that this mischaracterization is becoming normalized in some progressive circles and warns that such rhetoric can blur legitimate policy criticism with anti-Semitic animus against Jews and the existence of Israel itself.
Emanuel recounts his long-standing and public conflict with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, stemming from disagreements over Netanyahu’s policies—particularly expanding housing in the West Bank, which Emanuel believes destroyed prospects for a two-state solution and put Israel on a path of endless wars. Emanuel states that Netanyahu responded to such criticism by attacking Emanuel personally, labeling him a "self-loathing Jew," instead of addressing the substance of the policy dispute.
Emanuel contrasts Netanyahu unfavorably with previous Israeli leaders like Yitzhak Rabin, Menachem Begin, Golda Meir, and David Ben-Gurion, who he says balanced military necessity with crucial diplomatic initiatives. Emanuel cites Rabin’s principle: “fight terror as if there were no peace, make peace as if there were no terror,” insisting that such political-diplomatic integration has been absent under Netanyahu’s rule. Netanyahu, Emanuel argues, has never extended himself politically to pursue meaningful diplomacy, instead presiding over “endless wars” and increasing Israel’s internal and external isolation.
Emanuel describes the shift in Israel’s approach from integrating military and political solutions—championed by past leaders—to one that now wields violence disconnected from any strategic political endgame under Netanyahu. Emanuel’s participation in peace processes like the Oslo Accords and the Wye Plantation Agreement gives him a historical perspective; he believes Netanyahu’s strategy of "violence for the sake of violence" has damaged Israel’s diplomatic standing around the world, even among the American public.
He cites the alarming escalation of Palestinian deaths in Gaza, noting a rise from 40,000 to 70,000, with no increase in security for Israel. Emanuel shares that even elements of the Israeli Defense Force have criticized this, sa ...
Anti-Semitism, Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, Criticism of Netanyahu
Rahm Emanuel signals a serious interest in running for president in 2028, framing his prospective campaign as a break from the nostalgic politics of recent years. He emphasizes the need for future-focused leadership to restore Americans' faith in progress for the next generation rather than clinging to an idealized past.
Emanuel reveals that he is seriously considering a 2028 presidential run, citing a critical crossroads for the country. He criticizes the last twelve years under Presidents Trump and Biden, arguing that both leaders were fixated on restoring a past that no longer exists, and which in his view was not universally beneficial: “I think we have spent 12 plus years in some nostalgic dreamlike way of trying to restore a past that's not coming back and was not good to all Americans.”
Emanuel insists that his campaign would reject this nostalgia and instead focus on addressing emerging challenges, especially to improve conditions for younger generations. “2028, I'm going to make a bit about the future and who has a plan to make that future,” he says. This message is rooted in the belief that leadership should be centered on shaping a future where “we start taking care of the future,” and on offering tangible hope that “their kids can do better.”
Emanuel highlights a growing crisis of faith in American institutions and the Democratic Party’s struggle to reconnect with voters. He observes that Americans still hold out hope for their children's futures but harbor “real doubts that we're taking care of the business.” Emanuel asserts that the priority must be restoring general public faith in America by delivering results, not merely cultural or nostalgic messaging.
While Sam Harris raises the idea of restoring trusted institutions, Emanuel replies that it's not about reclaiming an idealized black-and-white past—what he describes as the “Ozzie and Harriet” era—but rather about modernizing core historical principles to anchor a credible, forward-facing vision. The goal is to ensure institutions can adapt and fulfill the needs of current and future generations.
Emanuel presents his record as evidence of his capacity to get things done across multiple levels of government. As President Clinton's senior advisor for policy and politics, he managed special projects including the crime bill, the assault weapon ban, welfare reform, and immigration policy.
As President Obama's first chief of staff, Emanuel played a hands-on role in passing the Affordable Care Act, financial reform, the Recovery Act, and the bailout of the auto industry. As mayor of Chicago, Emanuel claims to have overseen a dramatic transformation of the city’s public schools, highlighting that William Bennett once called them the “worst in America,” whereas Stanford’s Sean Reiner later named Chicago's system among the top 100 in the country.
In Congress, Emanuel served four terms representing Illinois's Fifth District. As chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, he helped the Democrats retake t ...
Rahm Emanuel's 2028 Presidential Candidacy and Vision for Future Leadership
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