In this Lex Fridman Podcast episode, mathematician Joel David Hamkins explores the evolution of mathematical thinking about infinity, from Aristotle's early distinctions to Cantor's revolutionary proof that not all infinities are equal. The discussion covers how set theory became the foundation of modern mathematics and examines Gödel's incompleteness theorems, which revealed fundamental limitations in mathematical systems.
The conversation delves into several key developments in mathematics, including Tarski's theory of truth and its implications for formal mathematical structures. Hamkins also discusses Conway's surreal number system and the mathematical properties of infinite chess, showing how these concepts connect to foundational ideas in set theory and computability. This episode bridges complex mathematical concepts while highlighting their interconnected nature and significance to our understanding of mathematical truth and infinity.

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The understanding of infinity has evolved dramatically from ancient philosophy to modern mathematics. Aristotle first distinguished between potential infinity (numbers continuing indefinitely) and actual infinity (which he considered impossible). This view was challenged when Galileo observed that infinite sets could be equinumerous, showing that parts of infinity could be as numerous as the whole.
Georg Cantor revolutionized mathematical thinking by proving that not all infinities are equal, demonstrating that the set of real numbers is larger than the set of natural numbers. This groundbreaking work led to Zermelo's development of set theory, which eventually became the Zermelo-Fraenkel axioms - the foundation of modern mathematics.
David Hilbert proposed an ambitious program to provide a solid foundation for all mathematics through a comprehensive axiomatic system. However, Kurt Gödel's incompleteness theorems showed that no such system could prove all mathematical truths or guarantee its own consistency.
Alfred Tarski's semantic theory of truth further separated the concept of truth from formal mathematical structures. This separation, combined with Gödel's work, revealed fundamental limitations in mathematical systems, including the undecidability of certain computational problems like the halting problem.
John Conway's surreal number system provides a unified framework encompassing various number systems, including natural numbers, integers, rationals, reals, and infinitesimals. Though fundamentally discontinuous, surreal numbers offer new ways to approach mathematical analysis.
In the realm of infinite chess, played on an unbounded board, Joel David Hamkins and Corey Evans demonstrated how every countable ordinal could arise as a game value. This exploration connects infinite chess to fundamental concepts in set theory and computability, illustrating the profound relationships between different areas of mathematics.
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The narrative of infinity has morphed dramatically from ancient philosophy to its profound impact on modern mathematics, fostering discussions around the very foundation of the mathematical reality.
Our understanding of infinity has vastly improved from the days of Aristotle, who differentiated between potential infinity - the notion that numbers can continue indefinitely, and actual infinity - a quantity he deemed incoherent.
Galileo stirred the waters with his observations on equinumerosity. Hamkins recounts Galileo's example that the set of all numbers and the set of perfect squares are equinumerous, which suggests an apparent paradox where parts of infinity are as numerous as the whole. Galileo found that line segments of different lengths are equinumerous and that this equinumerosity also applies to circles, regardless of size or perfect squares against all natural numbers, introducing a stark contradiction to Euclid's principle.
Cantor revolutionized mathematics by revealing that not all infinities are created equal. He demonstrated that there are larger and smaller infinities, such as the uncountably infinite set of real numbers versus the countable infinity of natural numbers. His work, however, didn't just reshape mathematics; it also caused a theological controversy given infinity's link to the divine. Cantor’s establishment of different sizes of infinity was a precursor to the continuum hypothesis, which pondered whether there existed an infinity between the natural numbers and the real numbers. His contemplation of this hypothesis spanned his lifetime. Cantor's proof demonstrated that every closed set is either countable or equinumerous with the continuum, contributing to his groundbreaking concept of transfinite ordinals.
Zermelo's reaction to the foundational crises and paradoxes sparked by Cantor's work led to the development of Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory. This axiomatic system provided much-needed rigor and sought to put set theory and, by extension, all of mathematics, on stable ground. Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory, including the foundational Axiom of Extensionality and the Axiom of Choice, has since become the unifying language enabling mathematicians to work within a coherent and singular framework.
Zermelo's theory was pressured into existence due to criticism of his proof of the well-ordering principle. Initially, his theory accounted for urelements—objects not considered as sets—but modern set theories typically exclude these based on structuralist philosophies.
The Axiom of Choice, essential to ZFC, allows for the selection of elements from different sets, a concept Hamkins finds natural yet acknowledges led to controversial outcomes, such as the well-ordering of real numbers. While ...
Development and Implications of Set Theory and Infinity
The intricate relationships between truth, provability, and computability in mathematics are examined through the lenses of historical figures in the field, recent conversations, and theoretical implications.
David Hilbert introduced a program as an ambitious goal towards providing a solid, formal foundation for all mathematics, which involved proving the consistency of a comprehensive axiomatic system.
Hilbert supported the use of set theory as a foundation for mathematics and aimed to show that a powerful formal theory, such as set theory, could answer all mathematical questions and that its consistency could be proven within a purely finitary theory. He anticipated the development of a theorem enumeration machine capable of answering all mathematical questions, making the investigation a matter of rote computation. Hilbert viewed proofs as syntactic sequences of symbols following the rules of logical reasoning and was captivated by the power and unifying aspect of set theory in mathematics.
However, Gödel’s incompleteness theorems provided a decisive refutation of Hilbert’s aspirations by showing no such strong and consistent axiomatic system exists that can prove all mathematical truths or guarantee its own consistency through finitary means. An inconsistent theory, Hamkins points out, could also "prove" its own consistency, undermining the reliability of self-verifying consistency. This revelation about the unattainability of Hilbert's program led to a broader understanding of the separation between truth and provability in mathematics.
The distinction between truth and provability transcends the concept of mathematical proof as a formal sequence of statements.
Joel David Hamkins discusses Tarski's semantic theory of truth, which separates the concept of truth from the formal structure in which it is discussed. Tarski's discrotational take on truth, formalized in mathematics, allows for the definition of truth within any mathematical structure, but its ambiguity is highlighted unless specified within a particular structure, like the standard model of arithmetic.
Gödel's incompleteness theorems imply that not all true statements in a sufficiently rich mathematical system can be proven, and no system can establish its own consistency. Theorems illustrate the limitations of provability, suggesting that there are true statements about the-arithmetic not provable within any given system, and that if a theory were complete and consistent, it could determine the outcome of any instance of the halting problem—an impossible feat due to the undecidability of the halting problem.
Certain computati ...
Relationships Between Truth, Provability, and Computability in Mathematics
Joel David Hamkins introduces the surreal number system—created by John Conway—as a beautiful mathematical system that unifies various other number systems and can construct all numbers. Fridman plans to further discuss the role and significance of surreal numbers and infinite chess.
Hamkins explains that surreal numbers are constructed from "nothing" using a transfinite sequence of stages, applying a specific rule that involves dividing existing numbers into two sets—a left set and a right set, ensuring each number in the left set is less than those in the right set. A new number is created to fit the gap between these two sets. The initial stage uses two empty sets to create zero, and the process continues to produce an ever-growing set of surreal numbers.
The surreal number system unifies numerous number systems, including natural numbers, integers, rationals, reals, ordinals, and infinitesimals. Notably, dyadic rationals are born at finite stages, while real numbers and additional numbers are birthed on day Omega.
Surreal numbers are fundamentally discontinuous, lacking least upper bounds and convergent sequences. This makes conventional calculus methods based on limits and convergence unworkable. However, calculus can still be done with surreal numbers using non-standard methods based on infinitesimals.
Hamkins explains that infinite chess is played on a chessboard extended infinitely in all directions. Pieces move according to standard chess patterns, but knights, rooks, bishops, and pawns, moving upwards or downwards depending on their color, move as far as the ...
Novel Math Structures: Surreal Numbers, Infinite Chess
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