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518: Six Days in Hell, And Why That Was Just Normal. With Army Ranger Crazy Joe Claburn

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In this episode of Jocko Podcast, Army veteran Joe Claburn shares his military journey, from his challenging upbringing in Maryland to his role as a company commander in Ramadi during 2005-2006. Leading the "Gunfighters" unit of the 101st Airborne Division, Claburn implemented distinctive combat tactics while facing constant threats from IEDs, snipers, and enemy attacks in urban warfare conditions.

The episode explores how Claburn's experiences shaped both his military career and personal life. After his time in Ramadi, he transitioned to commanding a Ranger Pathfinder company before a training accident ended his service. The discussion examines the psychological effects of combat on Claburn and his soldiers, including their struggles with post-traumatic stress and the challenges of readjusting to civilian life after intense combat experiences.

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518: Six Days in Hell, And Why That Was Just Normal. With Army Ranger Crazy Joe Claburn

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Claburn's Early Life and Path to the Military

Joe Claburn grew up in Maryland with his single mother and two siblings, facing financial instability that often left them without stable housing. Despite these challenges, Claburn developed a strong interest in military service, inspired by his Marine grandparents and 1980s war movies. At 13, he moved to live with his uncle in Georgia, a decision that shaped his future. By 17, Claburn enlisted in the Army, motivated by both college aid opportunities and a desire to serve. He quickly advanced, becoming a second lieutenant by age 20.

Claburn's Experiences as a Company Commander in Ramadi

During 2005-2006, Claburn commanded a company in Ramadi with the 4th Brigade, 101st Airborne Division. His unit, nicknamed the "Gunfighters," faced constant threats from IEDs, snipers, and enemy attacks. Claburn implemented innovative tactics, including a "porcupine" strategy that emphasized combat readiness to deter enemies. His leadership style involved personal involvement in patrols and operations, working alongside Navy SEALs and maintaining operational effectiveness despite challenging conditions.

Challenges and Intensity of Combat in Ramadi

Claburn's unit suffered significant casualties, including the loss of several soldiers to IEDs and enemy attacks. The unit faced particular challenges in urban warfare, where enemies could easily blend with civilians. Despite conducting numerous raids, about 75% found no enemy presence, highlighting the difficulties of fighting an elusive opponent. A tragic blue-on-blue incident resulted in the accidental death of an Iraqi soldier, leading to an investigation.

Claburn's Move to New Unit and Military Exit

Following his success in Ramadi, Claburn was promoted and took command of a Ranger Pathfinder company. His transition from intense combat to a safer environment proved challenging. Though recommended for early promotion to major, Claburn's military career was cut short by a training parachute accident that affected his health.

Impact of Ramadi on Claburn and Soldiers

The combat experiences in Ramadi left lasting psychological impacts on Claburn and his soldiers. Many survivors struggled with post-traumatic stress and readjustment to civilian life. Claburn grappled with the weight of command decisions and the loss of soldiers under his leadership. The emotional toll manifested in various ways, from sleep disturbances to high-risk behaviors among veterans, highlighting the enduring impact of their service.

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  • You can explore resilience by writing a personal history that includes challenges you've faced and how you overcame them, similar to how Claburn's background shaped his character.
    • Start by jotting down significant life events, especially those that tested your limits. Reflect on the strategies you used to cope and what you learned from each experience. This exercise can help you understand your own resilience and how past adversities have contributed to your personal growth.
  • Develop a mentorship program in your community that connects young adults with military veterans to facilitate skill-building and resilience.
    • Partner with local veterans' organizations to identify willing mentors and create a structured program where they can share life lessons, coping strategies, and leadership skills with young adults. This initiative can provide valuable support for both the mentors and mentees, fostering a sense of purpose and community engagement.
  • Create a support network for individuals dealing with the aftermath of intense experiences, focusing on shared activities that promote healing and camaraderie.
    • Organize regular meetups, such as group hikes, book clubs, or art therapy sessions, for people who have gone through challenging times. These gatherings can offer a safe space for participants to connect, share their stories, and find mutual support, aiding in their emotional recovery and reintegration into everyday life.

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Claburn's Early Life and Path to the Military

Joe Claburn's childhood was marked by financial instability but also a profound fascination with military life, influenced heavily by his grandparents' service and 1980s war movies.

Claburn, one of Three Children of a Single Mother, Grew Up In Unstable Conditions

Claburn grew up in Maryland as one of three children raised by a single mother. Their financial challenges often resulted in mobility and temporary accommodations, with the family at times sleeping in the back of a car or staying on a cousin's couch. Despite these hardships, Claburn harbored a strong interest in the military from a young age, taking inspiration from war movies of the 1980s and the storied military history of his grandparents, both Marines during World War II.

Claburn Shaped His Identity By Leaving Home As a Teen to Live With an Uncle in Alabama

In a pursuit to craft his identity and find stability, Claburn, at the age of 13, moved away from home to live with his uncle, initially in Georgia, a period that he regards as formative in becoming the person he is today. By 17, Claburn’s urge to serve and carve out his own path led him to enlist in the Army. His decision was influenced not only by his personal desires and his uncle's guidance but also by the allure of college aid. The opportunity to partake in an education program and become an officer was a significant motivator for his enlistment.

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  • You can explore your family history to find inspiration and direction by interviewing older relatives about their life experiences and documenting their stories. This can help you understand the values and events that shaped your family, potentially revealing patterns or influences that resonate with your own aspirations, much like Claburn's grandparents' military service influenced him.
  • Consider volunteering with organizations that support military families or veterans to gain perspective on the challenges and opportunities associated with military life. This hands-on experience can provide a deeper understanding of the commitment and sacrifices made by service members, similar to the insights Claburn might have gained from his family's histo ...

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Claburn's Experiences as a Company Commander in Ramadi

Joe Claburn recounts his time as a Company Commander in Ramadi with the 4th Brigade, 101st Airborne Division during 2005-2006. His tour of duty included innovative tactics and a "porcupine" mentality to deter the enemy during relentless combat scenarios.

4th Brigade, 101st Airborne Deployment to Ramadi, 2005-2006

Claburn’s unit initially prepared for deployment to Sadr City, focusing on maps and demographics, only to be surprised by a change to Ramadi while in Kuwait. After his arrival at Camp Corregidor in Ramadi, the constant threat from IEDs, sniper fire, and enemy attacks required body armor and helmets to be worn 24/7 outside. Claburn mentioned how he took patrols to accustom his soldiers to the city, reflecting his transition from enlisting in the Army to becoming an officer and joining a unit with historical significance, like the 4th Alabama known for never surrendering in the Civil War.

He was named for the role of company commander before usually serving on staff, emphasizing his quick ascension. His unit experienced a series of KIAs and IED encounters early in their deployment, with around 50 to 75 raids conducted. His "Gunfighter six" truck was even blown up a couple of times, and he led company-wide efforts up until his last day of command, naming his unit "Gunfighters" after old war and Western films and instilling a sense of determination and historical pride.

"Claburn's 'Gunfighters' in Ramadi"

Claburn was inventive in his strategies, setting up operations to ambush the enemy, and maintaining secrecy until the moment of action. His regiment suffered always-present threats, with 20% eligible for the Purple Heart due to combat wounds. The battalion constantly needed to adapt while separated from their trained brigade, learning to deal with the insurgents who blended in and set IEDs in familiar locations. Claburn personally led movements, refused to stay back in the trucks, and created an operational chart to track potential threats.

Claburn and Soldiers Faced Relentless Combat With Constant Ieds, Sniper Fire, and Enemy Attacks

Claburn Used Innovative Tactics and a "Porcupine" Mentality to Deter the Enemy

To counter the enemy tactics, Claburn fostered a "porcupine" mentality, preparing his soldiers to appear ready to strike at any moment in anticipation of engagements. His desire was to turn his company into a force that would deter the enemy through readiness and vigility. In his operations, including Operation Great White, he aimed to bait the enemy into engagement and used stealth and surprise to counteract t ...

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  • You can develop a "readiness ritual" to prepare for challenging tasks, similar to soldiers gearing up for patrol. Before tackling a difficult project or situation, take a few minutes to mentally and physically prepare yourself. This could involve reviewing key information, doing a brief physical warm-up, or practicing deep breathing to focus your mind and body on the task ahead.
  • Create a personal "threat chart" to manage daily risks and stressors. Identify potential challenges you might face in your routine, such as tight deadlines or difficult conversations, and map out strategies to address them. This could be a simple list or a visual chart that you update regularly, helping you to stay aware and proactive about what might throw you off course.
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Challenges and Intensity of Combat in Ramadi

Joe Claburn recounts his combat experiences in Ramadi, Iraq, painting a harrowing picture of the challenges and intensity of urban warfare where distinguishing between civilians and enemy combatants was a constant struggle.

Claburn's Unit Faced Casualties: Sergeant Wounded, Soldiers Killed

Claburn's unit suffered significant losses throughout their deployment. Claburn recalls the injury of a first sergeant and best friend who was shot in the shoulder and required reconstructive surgery, as well as the death of Sergeant First Class Rogers and other soldiers injured by shrapnel from an enemy attack using a mounted dishka. The unit also lost five soldiers to IEDs on one of the roads they patrolled.

During the aftermath of an IED attack, Claburn assisted with the extraction of wounded soldiers, including Sergeant Lamberson, who had severe leg wounds and later succumbed to his injuries. Additionally, the sniper Marco Silva was killed immediately in an ambush, and other soldiers like Specialist Alvarez tried to protect Silva's body, with Sergeant Erby wounded in the leg.

Claburn's narrative includes the devastating effects of combat stress and fatigue, with soldiers no longer effective after extended periods without sleep. He shares the emotional struggles of a platoon sergeant coping with the return of soldiers dead or wounded, as well as the dread of making life-and-death decisions during operations like Great White.

The casualties extended beyond combat deaths to include severe injuries, with soldiers expressing a determination to remain with their units despite life-altering wounds. Max Ramsey, for example, lost his right leg to an IED, yet desired to continue serving.

Claburn's Men in Blue-On-blue Incident: Iraqi Soldier Killed

An incident of friendly fire, or blue-on-blue incident, saw an Iraqi soldier mistakenly killed due to miscommunication between units. The Iraqi soldier was misidentified as an enemy because of his silhouette armed with an AK-47. Citing the chaotic circumstances of the Iraqi soldier's death, Claburn highlights the complexities of urban combat and the accompanying heartbreak of accidentally targeting an ally. The misunderstanding led to his company being put on stand-down for an investigation.

Notably, despite the tragic incident, when given the choice, every man volunteered to continue with the missions, demonstrating the unit's dedication. The high operational tempo and consecutive missions underscore the relentless nature of their efforts in Ramadi.

Enemy's Ability to Blend Into Locals Made Fighting in Ramadi Challenging

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  • By intentionally placing yourself in mildly uncomfortable situations, you train your mind to handle stress better. For example, start with a 30-second cold shower and gradually increase the duration over time, or skip a meal and focus on overcoming the discomfort.
  • Enhance your decision-making skills under pressure by playing strategy-based video games or board games that require quick thinking and adaptability.
  • Games like chess, Starcraft, or even timed puzzle games can simulate the need to make strategic decisions rapidly. As you play, give yourself shorter time limits to make each move, which can help improve your ability to think and act decisively when stressed.
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Claburn's Move to New Unit and Military Exit

Joe Claburn's career in the military experienced a notable shift following his promotion and eventual transition from active service due to a health-affecting accident.

Claburn Promoted To Major, to Command Ranger Pathfinder Company

Claburn was a week away from changing over command when he found an IED on his last mission and was transferred after wishing to bring his company back home safely. He talks about leaving the "gunfighters" and moving to a second command, for which he had to interview with recommendations from Major Womack and Colonel Clark. Joe Claburn became the commanding officer of the Ranger Pathfinder company, a specialized unit half the size of a regular infantry company but highly trained. This unit included sniper school graduates and was capable of operating independently behind enemy lines. All non-commissioned officers were Ranger-qualified, with many cycling through stints as Ranger instructors.

His exemplary performance led to a recommendation for a below-the-zone promotion to major, which would be a year sooner than his peers. Claburn's battalion commander offered him another opportunity to interview for a company commander position at Ranger Training Brigade, which he received after the interview. However, an unexpected international officer exchange program issue diverted him to England to spend two years with the British parachute regiment.

Claburn's Jarring Transition From Intense Combat in Ramadi to Safety in Pathfinder Unit

Upon taking command of the Ranger Pathfinder Company, Claburn found it challenging to adapt to the relative safety and comfort of that environment. Coming from combat operations in Ramadi, where his unit went without TV for weeks and didn't have laundry services for three months, he experienced a significant shift in environment. The contrast between the high operational tempo in combat and the safe, a ...

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  • You can reflect on your own career trajectory by journaling about your professional milestones and comparing them to Joe Claburn's advancements. Write down your significant achievements, promotions, or transitions and consider what factors contributed to these successes. This can help you identify your strengths and areas for growth, much like analyzing Claburn's career can provide insights into the qualities that lead to exceptional performance.
  • Develop resilience by creating a personal contingency plan for unexpected life changes, inspired by Claburn's abrupt career end. Start by assessing potential risks in your career or personal life and outline steps you would take if faced with a similar situation. This might include financial planning, skills development for a career pivot, or mental health resources to help cope with change.
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Impact of Ramadi on Claburn and Soldiers

The conversations surrounding Claburn and his soldiers reveal a deep and often haunting emotional and psychological toll that the combat experiences in Ramadi had on them.

Claburn's Soldiers, Including Combat Survivors, Later Succumbed To the Emotional and Psychological Toll of Service

Claburn Grappled With the Burden of Decisions and the Lives Lost Under His Leadership, Despite His Tactical and Operational Successes

Claburn’s reflection on the operational risks and their consequences hints at the profound internal conflict he faced, weighing his duty as a leader against the safety of his men. Jocko Willink reinforces the reality of the emotional and psychological toll by acknowledging the relentless operational tempo and the inevitable casualties. They discuss the grueling everyday combat with a looming possibility of events going sideways, situations that could lead to soldiers being wounded or killed.

Claburn acknowledges the high level of post-traumatic stress among his comrades, which comes as no surprise given the hostile environment they endured. He shares personal anecdotes, such as the emotional aftermath following the shooting of his first sergeant, which paints a harrowing picture of the mental toll these experiences have imposed.

Moreover, Claburn’s soldiers, even those who survived combat, succumbed to the psychological impact of war, engaging in high-risk behaviors such as mixing medicine with alcohol—a struggle to readjust to life beyond the battlefield. He recalls the anguish he felt in the wake of his best friend and first sergeant being shot, emphasizing not just the events themselves but the lingering considerations of command decisions affecting his unit's safety and effectiveness.

While discussing past combat operations with his fellows, Claburn expresses an enduring emotional connection to those times, subtly revealing the ongoing influence these events have on his and his soldiers’ well-being. He candidly points out the abnormality of their wartime experiences, directly correlating the lasting impact with the unfortunate loss of veterans to suicide and poor decisions following their return home.

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  • You can write letters of gratitude to veterans to acknowledge their sacrifices and provide moral support, which can be therapeutic for both you and the recipient. Writing can help you process the gravity of military service and its impact on individuals, while veterans may find comfort in knowing their experiences are recognized and valued. For example, you might share how learning about their experiences has given you a deeper appreciation for the complexities of leadership and the resilience required in the face of adversity.
  • Create a personal reflection journal to explore themes of leadership, decision-making, and personal sacrifice. By reflecting on these themes in your own life, you can develop a greater understanding of the emotional and psychological challenges faced by leaders in high-stress situations. For instance, after a challenging day at work or a difficult decision, write down your thoughts and feelings, drawing parallels to the leadership burdens described in the soldiers' experiences.
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