In this episode of the Huberman Lab podcast, Terry Real and Andrew Huberman examine how traditional masculine ideals affect men's mental health and relationships. They explore why equating stoicism with strength while rejecting vulnerability can be psychologically damaging, and discuss how men can develop healthier ways to express emotions and needs.
The conversation covers the importance of male friendships and mentorship in supporting mental well-being, particularly for young men seeking direction and purpose. Real and Huberman address how economic uncertainty and changing social roles have created identity challenges for many men, and outline practical approaches to building self-worth, maintaining accountability in relationships, and creating supportive communities where men can make meaningful contributions.

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Terry Real examines the challenges men face in modern society, highlighting the urgent need for a new approach to masculinity. He critiques traditional masculine ideals that equate stoicism with strength and reject vulnerability as weakness, explaining that these norms are increasingly viewed as unrealistic and psychologically damaging.
Real and Huberman discuss how suppressing emotions negatively impacts men's mental and physical health. They emphasize that thriving in life requires actively working on expressing and processing feelings. Real advocates for men to express their needs in healthy, non-entitled ways, suggesting that authentic connectedness comes through non-demanding requests for help and acknowledging mistakes.
The experts highlight key relational skills men need to develop, including active listening and empathy. Real notes that men often default to "objectivity battles" rather than empathic engagement during conflicts, and suggests instead focusing on recognizing and addressing partners' feelings directly.
Huberman identifies a concerning trend among young men who lack direction and purpose, often leading to depression and addiction. Both experts emphasize the vital role of male friendships and community in supporting mental health. Real discusses how many men struggle with shame, which can undermine accountability in relationships, and advocates for teaching men to balance feeling appropriately bad about mistakes while maintaining self-worth.
The conversation addresses how economic uncertainty and eroding traditional male roles have created an identity crisis for many men. Real emphasizes the importance of older men mentoring younger ones and creating supportive communities where men can find meaningful roles and make positive contributions to society.
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Terry Real explores the challenges faced by men in the modern era, emphasizing the need for a transformative approach to masculinity that embraces vulnerability, connection, and relational skills.
Real critiques traditional masculine ideals that equate stoicism with strength and denounce vulnerability as weakness.
Terry Real describes traditional masculinity as being predicated on stoicism and invulnerability, which is increasingly viewed as unrealistic and psychologically damaging. Traditional norms portray vulnerability as feminine and undesirable, leading to chronic anxiety and depression, as they deny an inherent human condition: vulnerability.
Real explains that societal shifts have created uncertainty about male identity and a mental health crisis among men. Confusion arises as global trends both celebrate and challenge traditional masculinity. Rigid guidelines, such as diagrams from past eras dictating "masculine" postures, indicate the restrictive nature of former masculine ideals.
A new model of masculinity is promoted by Real, one that combines emotional openness with a dedication to relational skills and responsibility.
Real advocates for an evolved concept of m ...
Modern Masculinity Crisis: A New Model Needed
Concerns regarding men's emotional expression and the ability to navigate relationships effectively have surfaced due to high rates of depression and suicide among men.
Experts emphasize the fundamental need for men to express and connect through emotions for their overall health.
Huberman and Real have a critical discussion on men's mental health, pointing out that thriving in life goes hand-in-hand with actively working on expressing and processing feelings. Real paints "psychological patriarchy" as a toxic straitjacket, hindering emotional expression and damaging men's mental health. Highlighting how unnatural disconnection is for humans, he notes the havoc it wreaks on men's abilities to connect with others and themselves. Real stresses the significance of vulnerability for connection and overall health. Huberman agrees, linking the suppression of emotions to heart health deterioration. Real further articulates that men who have tapped into their emotions often lack the skills to connect deeply. Bottling up emotions harms not only the individual but also those around them.
Men failing to express their needs in a healthy manner can create barriers in achieving authentic connectedness.
Real advocates for non-demanding requests for help and the acknowledgment of errors as the path toward nurturing relationships. He envisions intimacy in relationships—that blend of truth and love—as both healing and spiritual. Learning to express vulnerabilities appropriately and reciprocate support is pitched as critical for men's relational health. Men should also be present in their relationships instead of striving for outside achievements as a way to earn love.
Real calls for a balanced negotiation of emotional expression in relationships, suggesting that men need to be receptive to this learning. Successful relational engagement according to Real involves instructing men in a way that incorporates "relational mindfulness," enabling men to self-regulate and manage emotions maturely.
Relational adeptness entails a set of skills crucial for robust and meaningful male participation in relationships.
Men often fail to understand their partner's subjective experiences and default to "objectivity battles" rather than empathic engagement. Real suggests instead recognizing the partner’s feelings and addressing them directly.
Real and Huberman highlight the importance of responding to conflict and criticism maturely. Real emphasizes integrity as pivotal in conflicts, whereas Huberman focuses on the necessity for constructive criticism delivery that is blame-free and focuses on feelings. They share a consensus on the need for emotio ...
Men's Emotional Expression, Vulnerability, and Relational Skills
Andrew Huberman and Terry Real explore deep concerns regarding men's wellbeing, pointing out the crucial roles that community, purpose, and self-esteem play in male mental health and identity.
The lack of male friendships and a sense of community significantly affects men's mental health. Huberman discusses young men struggling with a 'failure to launch,' which involves a lack of direction or purpose. He observes young men experiencing mental health issues such as being on medication, sexual health problems, and feeling overwhelmed. He suggests that simple activities like a hike could help find connections and perspective. Both Huberman and Real acknowledge the common scenario of young men lacking belonging and purpose, as reported by concerned parents.
Real and Huberman emphasize the importance of fraternities or communities for young men, suggesting that these groups act as a source of belonging and purpose. Huberman reflects on various communities he's been a part of, like the scientific research community, and how they have provided a sense of belonging. He points out that creating a space for community or group activities can be beneficial. Real stresses the importance of men having friends and advises the men he works with to build deeper connections with their existing friends by sharing more of their personal struggles.
Real discusses the shame that many men feel, which can undermine accountability and relationships. He speaks of teaching men to balance feeling appropriately bad about bad behavior while simultaneously holding themselves in warm regard, avoiding both shamelessness and excessive self-criticism. When men make mistakes, they often revert to feelings of unworthiness and protect themselves from the feeling of being 'a bad guy,' leading to defensive reactions that damage relationships.
Men's healthy self-esteem should not be tied solely to performance and achievement. Real suggests that men struggle with this aspect, leading to shame when they do not perform well. He speaks about how men need to learn to feel bad about a mistake proportionally while maintaining their self-worth, a skill that enables them to admit imperfections without being overwhelmed.
Real acknowledges the erosion of traditional male roles and suggests that amidst economic challenges, men are grappling with their identity. There is a growing concern among men on how to make a living, especially with AI threatening job opportunities. Real emphasizes the need for men to find ...
Community, Purpose, and Self-Esteem in Men's Wellbeing
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