In this episode of the Huberman Lab podcast, Dr. David Berson breaks down the mechanics of human vision, explaining how our eyes and brain work together to process visual information. He describes the intricate process of converting light into neural signals, the role of specialized cells in color perception, and how humans' three types of cone cells allow us to see a broader spectrum of colors compared to many other mammals.
Berson also explores the connection between vision and other brain systems. He details how specific retinal cells help regulate our internal clock through light detection, affecting hormone production and sleep patterns. The discussion covers how our visual system integrates with our sense of balance, and examines cases of brain plasticity where the visual cortex adapts to process other types of sensory information.

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In a discussion between Andrew Huberman and David Berson, the complex process of human vision and color perception is explored, revealing how our eyes and brain work together to create our visual experience.
Berson explains that our eyes function like cameras, with photoreceptors capturing light and converting it into neural signals. These signals are processed in the retina, which he describes as a "layer cake" structure, before being transmitted to the brain through specialized neurons called ganglion cells. While the eyes detect images, Berson emphasizes that seeing is ultimately a phenomenon of the brain.
According to Berson, humans possess three types of cone cells in their retinas, enabling us to see a broad spectrum of colors. This gives us an advantage over many other mammals, such as cats and dogs, which have only two types of cones. He explains that different wavelengths of light trigger specific proteins in the retina, and our nervous system interprets these signals to create our perception of color.
Berson describes how specialized retinal cells containing melanopsin help synchronize our circadian rhythm with environmental light levels. This system influences hormone production, particularly melatonin, which rises at night and falls during the day. He notes that blind individuals often experience sleep difficulties due to disruptions in this synchronization process.
The visual and vestibular systems work in tandem to stabilize our perception during movement. Berson explains that the cerebellum acts as an "air traffic controller," coordinating visual and balance information. When these systems send conflicting information to the brain, it can result in motion sickness.
Berson details how different brain structures process visual information in unique ways. The superior colliculus serves as a reflex center for rapid visual responses, while the basal ganglia and cerebral cortex regulate movement decisions. He also describes an fascinating example of brain plasticity, where the visual cortex in early blind individuals can be repurposed to process touch information, such as reading Braille.
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Experts discuss the complex processes that enable humans to perceive the world in vivid color, revealing the intricate interplay between the eyes and brain.
David Berson, in conversation with Andrew Huberman, elucidates how the human eye functions similarly to a camera, detecting images and initiating the process of vision.
Andrew Huberman introduces the topic by mentioning photons of light entering the eye. David Berson elaborates that the eye's photoreceptors, like sensors, capture light information and convert it to a bitmap of neural signals on the retina's surface. He portrays the retina as a "layer cake," where photons hit the outermost layer containing photoreceptors and transform into neural signals.
Berson clarifies that seeing is a phenomenon of the brain, normally facilitated by the eyes. The retina informs the brain of significant visual information through neurons called ganglion cells, which are crucial for eye-brain communication. The eye not only detects the initial image but also does some preliminary processing before transmitting the signals to the brain proper, where conscious visual experience occurs.
Huberman inquires how photons result in the perception of specific colors like red, green, or blue.
Berson describes the retina's photoreceptors converting light into electrical signals for brain processing. He mentions that humans generally possess three cone types in the eyes, allowing them to see a spectrum of colors. In comparison, other mammals such as dogs and cats have only two cone types, resulting in limited color vision.
Berson also explains light as electromagnetic radiation detectable by retinal neurons in varying wavelengths, which contribute to our experience of ...
The Mechanics of Vision and Color Perception
David Berson and Andrew Huberman highlight the intricate connections between the visual system and other brain systems, particularly the circadian and vestibular systems, discussing how disruptions in these interconnections can lead to sleep and balance issues.
Berson notes the existence of a pigment called melanopsin that is sensitive to overall brightness and alerts the brain about the environmental brightness, affecting the body's internal biological clock.
David Berson speaks about a photopigment found in ganglion cells that help synchronize the circadian system to the light-dark cycle by converting light to neural signals. He emphasizes that specialized neurons in the eye align the 24-hour rhythm of the suprachiasmatic nucleus (SCN) with the external world. The exposure to light influences hormonal levels, causing melatonin to remain low during the day and increase at night. However, bright light at night can significantly reduce melatonin levels.
Berson also addresses concerns that blind people often have sleeping issues due to their circadian clock drifting out of sync, a result of the missing synchronization signal from the retina.
With sensitive inner ear structures, the vestibular system senses movements and helps maintain balance. Coupled with the visual system, it allows for the stabilization of images on the retina as you move. Berson talks about the cerebellum's role in this coordination, akin to air traffic control, for accurate movement timing and motor learning. He mentions conditions like cerebellar ataxia, which can lead to unsteadiness and movement tremors in patients with cerebellar damage.
The cerebellum also plays a role in sensory-motor integration, exemplified by ...
Connections Between the Visual and Other Brain Systems
The processing and integration of visual information in the brain are complex and involve various structures including the superior colliculus and the basal ganglia, and the cerebral cortex. These have distinct roles in how visual information is processed, how attention is focused, and how movements are initiated or suppressed based on what is seen.
The superior colliculus is a key visual center located in the midbrain beneath the cortex, associated with unconscious processes and reflexive behaviors. This area is crucial in interpreting visual input and organizing behavior related to it. It acts as a reflex center to reorient an animal's gaze, body, or attention in different spatial locations. The superior colliculus not only receives input from the visual system but also from other sensory systems such as touch and auditory systems, enabling coordinated responses to various stimuli. In certain animals like rattlesnakes, the superior colliculus integrates input from specialized sensors like warmth detectors on their faces with visual data.
Andrew Huberman introduces the basal ganglia's role in controlling "go" behavior (initiating actions) and "no-go" behavior (preventing actions). The cortex evaluates situations to decide whether an action should be conducted, with these go/no-go circuits making the determinations. Variations in individuals' capability to execute these circuits may be due to genetic differences and life experiences. The basal ganglia, paired with the cerebral cortex, influence the ability to either withhold or execute behavior. For example, the 'marshmallow test' illustrates the go/no-go decision-making process, i ...
Visual Processing and Integration Pathways
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