In this episode of Hidden Brain, Shankar Vedantam and psychologist Sarah Schnitker explore the role of patience in modern life. Through examples ranging from athletes' injury recovery to religious practices, they examine how patience involves both emotional regulation and the ability to delay gratification—skills that can lead to improved health outcomes and stronger relationships in an age of instant gratification.
The episode also features Jennifer Tosti-Kharas discussing the relationship between meaningful work and personal fulfillment. She explains Amy Rzezniewski's framework for understanding how people view their work—as jobs, careers, or callings—and explores how individuals can make their work more meaningful through "job crafting." The discussion addresses the benefits and potential pitfalls of viewing work as a calling, along with strategies for discovering one's professional purpose.

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In this discussion, Shankar Vedantam and Sarah Schnitker explore the value of patience in modern life. Schnitker explains that patience involves both emotional regulation and the ability to delay gratification—skills that are increasingly undervalued in today's world of instant gratification.
Through reappraisal, which involves changing how we perceive situations, Schnitker suggests we can develop greater patience. This practice can lead to improved health outcomes, stronger relationships, and a deeper sense of life purpose. For example, teenagers practicing Ramadan fasting and young adults running marathons for charitable causes showed enhanced patience that extended beyond these specific activities.
Schnitker explains that impatience often stems from our natural desire for certainty and aversion to uncertainty. This can lead to hasty decisions and potentially harmful actions, as demonstrated during the COVID pandemic when some people pursued dangerous "quick fixes."
Vedantam illustrates the consequences of impatience through the case of Robert Griffin III (RG3), whose rushed return from injury led to career setbacks. This stands in contrast to Simone Biles' patient approach to her mental health, which ultimately contributed to her successful return to competition.
Jennifer Tosti-Kharas discusses Amy Rzezniewski's framework for understanding work relationships, categorizing them as jobs, careers, or callings. While viewing work as a calling often leads to greater job satisfaction, it can risk overcommitment and work-life imbalance.
Tosti-Kharas emphasizes that passion for work can evolve over time, and meaningful work doesn't always have to be a calling. She suggests that people can engage in "job crafting" to make their work feel more meaningful, and that finding a calling later in life is just as valid as discovering it early. The process of discovering one's calling requires self-reflection, attention to external signals, and strategic exploration rather than random attempts.
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Shankar Vedantam and Sarah Schnitker discuss the often overlooked value of patience in modern life and how cultivating it can lead to numerous benefits.
Vedantam introduces the importance of patience by sharing a parable of a man learning from bamboo that doesn't grow visibly for years, which actually develops strong roots underground. This story illustrates the hidden workings and benefits of patience.
Vedantam addresses the "sweet spot" of patience, which involves regulating emotions and balancing when to wait versus when to act. Sarah Schnitker describes reappraisal—changing how one perceives a situation, such as considering a delay as an opportunity to develop patience or trying to understand a child's behavior from their perspective.
Vedantam suggests that being patient with oneself, as it relates to self-regulation and accepting personal flaws and limitations, is another important form of patience that requires the right mix of courage and patience.
Schnitker explains that practicing patience can enhance health and life purpose, as acting with both courage and patience ensures avoiding the extreme of being overly passive. She shares her own experience of practicing patience when ill, which improved her overall health and success over time by allowing rest and mindfulness instead of forcing productivity.
Reappraisal, as Schnitker mentions, can lead to better emotional regulation and greater patience, with subsequent health and relationship benefits. The discussion highlights that a higher order purpose can bolster one's patience and contribute to reduced stress and a richer sense of life's purpose.
For instance, teenagers who practiced fasting during Ramadan showed improved patience that persisted beyond the fasting period, indicating the impact of a challenging practice for a greater reason. Likewise, young adults running marathons for philanthropic reasons developed more patience than those running only for health and fitness.
Linking patience with endurance through setbacks and success, Vedantam suggests th ...
The Psychology and Benefits of Patience
Impatience may seem harmless in small doses, but its effects can run deep, impacting mental health, relationships, and even careers.
Individuals naturally seek predictability and certainty. Sarah Schnitker explains that this human desire leads to impatience when facing ambiguity and uncertainty; people resort to quick-fixes or risky actions to gain a sense of control, which can be dangerous or counterproductive. She shares how as a child, she gave up on basketball because it didn't come easily to her, opting for the safer and more certain option of not playing rather than persisting despite the uncertainty of her potential. Schnitker also discusses our collective hatred for boredom, noting that impatience is often fueled by a situation we want to change but cannot.
During times of uncertainty, such as the COVID pandemic, this drive for certainty led some to engage in dangerous behaviors like drinking bleach, based on unsubstantiated assertions of it being a solution, despite the potential harm. Our minds latch onto anything that offers certainty, often leading to premature and potentially harmful decisions.
Impatience has been linked to several serious health and social consequences. It increases the potential for heart problems, difficulty handling stress which can evolve into anxiety, loneliness due to strained relationships, and higher depressive symptoms. Shankar Vedantam cites the case of Robert Griffin III (RG3) as an example of the negative consequences impatience can have on health and careers. RG3 suffered a serious injury but was rushed back to the playing field, which eventually led to further injuries and a significant setback in his promising career. The push to have RG3 return quickly, especially with the promotion ...
The Costs and Challenges of Impatience
Jennifer Tosti-Kharas examines the concept of work as it differs among individuals and the challenges, benefits, and potential pitfalls of pursuing a "calling."
Jennifer Tosti-Kharas discusses Amy Rzezniewski's framework for understanding people's relationships to work, categorizing it as a job, a career, or a calling, and how these relationships influence our feelings of fulfillment and engagement.
Work as a "calling" is seen as a source of fulfillment and passion. Those with a calling often feel consumed by their work and see their job as inseparable from their life, rather than merely a means to an end, which carries the risk of overcommitment and may interfere with a balanced life. Couples with incongruent work orientations can experience uncertainty and may find job searches more challenging. However, those who perceive their work as their calling often find greater job satisfaction.
Tosti-Kharas explains that even within calling-oriented work, there can be mundane aspects, and work can still provide meaning outside of a calling, such as fueling external passions or contributing to a balanced life. Life changes, like having children or new partnerships, can shift priorities and redefine what is considered meaningful work. For example, Christina, a part-time singer who took a full-time job, didn't feel like she sold out because her definition of meaning expanded. Similarly, Midian's shift from makeup effects artist to teaching signifies a shift in passion and priorities.
Tosti-Kharas indicates that callings can change, and though there's cultural pressure to see work as a calling, prioritizing stability is also valid. People can engage in "job crafting" to make their work feel more like a calling. The distribution of people who view their work in terms of jobs, careers, or callings is roughly equal. Tosti-Kharas advises self-awareness in balancing the pursuit of a calling with other life priorities.
Shankar Vedantam discusses the common challenge of not finding a calling, while Catherine Deakis and Wayne Baker's research suggests that callings can be influenced by role mod ...
Navigating the Pursuit of Meaningful Work and "Callings"
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