In this episode of All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg, guest Naveen Rao addresses AI's looming energy crisis. He explains that current computing architecture, designed for speed rather than efficiency, requires exponential energy growth that could hit supply limits within three years. With energy costs now representing half the expense of serving AI tokens, and traditional hardware improvements reaching physical limits, Rao argues that fundamental changes are necessary.
Rao presents an alternative: dynamical computing inspired by biological systems. His team has developed a prototype chip that unifies computation and memory at the device level, achieving efficiency gains of roughly 1,000 times compared to conventional GPUs. The episode covers the theoretical foundations of this new architecture, practical demonstrations through both simulated and physical hardware, and plans for commercializing a rack-scale data center system within two years.

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AI is facing an energy crisis as computing demands grow exponentially while energy efficiency improves only incrementally. Naveen Rao reports that Google currently uses 12 gigawatts of continuous power just for AI services, processing 3.2 quadrillion tokens monthly at about 10 joules per token. With global data centers consuming around 100 gigawatts total, Rao warns that at current growth rates, the world could hit practical energy supply limits for AI within three years.
Energy costs now represent about 50% of the expense of serving an AI token, making power consumption a dominant factor in data center economics. The challenge is stark: the AI market is projected to reach $1 trillion by 2030, yet efficiency improvements are linear while demand grows exponentially.
Modern computers were designed for speed, not energy efficiency. Rao explains that the von Neumann architecture separates memory from computation, forcing constant data movement that consumes most system energy. Today's GPUs move nearly 30 trillion bits per second, while the human cortex moves only 16 billion bits per second—yet the brain accomplishes remarkable computational feats on just 20 watts.
With transistor miniaturization reaching its limits, further efficiency gains through hardware shrinkage are no longer viable. This necessitates a fundamental rethinking of computer design, with biological systems offering compelling examples: a squirrel's brain operates on only 8 milliwatts while performing complex navigation tasks.
Rao presents a new computing paradigm inspired by natural systems, where computation emerges from physical dynamics rather than abstract mathematical operations. He points to examples like flocking birds and synchronizing metronomes, where complex behaviors arise from simple interactions among components. This approach directly connects semiconductor physics to neural network behaviors, bypassing the "lossy abstractions" of traditional digital computing.
The architecture, branded as "4d computing," unifies compute and memory at the device level. Unlike von Neumann systems that separate these functions, each computing element in dynamical systems inherently performs both computation and storage through temporal dynamics coupled with three-dimensional die stacking. Rao also introduces sparsity—maintaining only essential connections between elements—which not only reduces complexity but can actually enhance performance and trainability.
Rao and his team developed Uno, an image generation model based on interconnected oscillators that demonstrates practical generative AI capabilities. This simulation, released as open source, proved that oscillator-based systems could perform real AI tasks.
More impressively, the team fabricated a physical prototype chip in just five months. The resulting hardware achieved groundbreaking efficiency: only 500 nanojoules per image, roughly 1,000 times more power efficient than conventional GPUs. This represents the first public demonstration of functional dynamical computing hardware, offering silicon proof that the theory works in practice. The efficiency gain comes from eliminating the constant data movement between memory and compute units that plagues traditional architectures.
Rao describes plans for a rack-scale data center system designed to run large AI models, delivering tokens through standard network interfaces while operating on fundamentally different internal architecture. The team is targeting a full product launch within two years.
The new architecture allows AI model adaptation at the model layer without changing the operations layer, though this requires significant computational effort. Instead of traditional matrix multiplication in hardware, the system reimagines operations as time-varying behaviors and state transformations.
Developing this system requires bridging physicists versed in dynamical systems theory with chip designers. To facilitate this collaboration, Rao's company has built specialized Python libraries that serve as a shared language, allowing researchers to express stochastic, time-varying elements and translate dynamical systems concepts into practical chip design.
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AI is on the cusp of an energy crisis as ballooning computing demands far outpace improvements in energy efficiency. With data centers already consuming a sizable fraction of global electricity, the rapid ascent of models like those powering Google and OpenAI highlights urgent engineering and ecological questions.
Naveen Rao reports that Google currently processes 3.2 quadrillion AI tokens per month, using roughly 10 joules per token—an efficient estimate for modern models. This alone translates to a staggering 12 gigawatts of continuous power usage devoted just to Google’s AI services. Globally, data centers collectively consume around 100 gigawatts, with the United States accounting for about 40 gigawatts, representing roughly half the worldwide total. Rao warns that if AI model sizes and usage continue to grow at their current rate, the world could reach practical energy supply ceilings for AI computation within just three years.
The financial impact of this power usage is equally massive. Rao notes that about 50% of the cost of serving an AI token stems from energy consumption—the remainder going to hardware and facility expenses. Power contracts and the need to monetize every watt have become central to data center economics, as energy costs are now a dominant part of maintaining scalable AI services.
The scale of the AI market adds urgency to the efficiency debate. Projections estimate a $1 trillion market for AI by 2030 or sooner, yet energy efficiency in data centers is improving only incrementally—linearly—while computational demand and market size expand exponentially. This creates a growing disparity, mandating substantial innovation if AI growth is to continue sustainably.
Modern digital computers were built for speed, not power efficiency. Almost all mainstream systems, from personal laptops to data center GPUs, use the von Neumann architecture, which physically separates memory (storage) from computation (processing). With this design, the movement of information—shuttling bits back and forth between components—consumes the majority of system energy. Rao explains that today’s GPUs can move nearly 30 trillion bits per second between chips and memory; by contrast, the human cortex moves only about 16 billion bits per second.
Historically, as hardware miniaturization progressed in accordance with Moore’s Law, efficiency increased as transistors shrank. However, Rao notes that we’ve reached the limits for miniaturization. Frequency and single-threaded performance have plateaued, and further energy efficiency through smaller transistors is no longer viable. To meet the ever-increasing energy needs, a fundamental rethinking of computer design is now nece ...
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Naveen Rao presents a new computing architecture inspired by principles observed in natural systems and the brain, aiming to overcome the inefficiencies of traditional computing by leveraging emergent behaviors, physical dynamics, and novel circuit design.
Rao explains that computation is ubiquitous in nature. For instance, birds in a flock exhibit complex, coordinated movements through simple individual rules such as observing neighbors, resulting in emergent flocking behaviors. Similarly, ant colonies manifest intelligence from simple, local agent rules. These examples illustrate how complex, system-level behaviors emerge from basic interactions among components.
A practical demonstration of this principle is the synchronization of metronomes. When multiple metronomes are placed on a rigid, movable platform, their interactions with the platform cause them to synchronize in phase over time, regardless of their starting points. Rao notes that as scale increases—potentially hundreds of metronomes—the collective dynamics still drive the system toward distinctive, synchronized patterns or even subgroup synchrony with opposing phases. The intrinsic connections and interactions among units—rather than top-down command—produce computation.
Rao likens this to the brain, which is composed of neurons whose physical operations, rather than abstract mathematical processes such as linear algebra or floating-point math, give rise to intelligence. This observation motivates efforts to build circuits mimicking such dynamical systems using semiconductors.
Rao criticizes the layers of abstraction in conventional digital computers: bits representing 1s and 0s are themselves simplifications of more complex physical transistor states. These abstractions enable building up systems but are "lossy"—each step overlooks and discards underlying complexity and, with it, efficiency.
Current neural networks and learning machines sit atop these legacy abstractions, inheriting fundamental inefficiencies. Rao’s approach is to simplify the architectural stack by connecting the physics of semiconductor devices directly to neural network behaviors, bypassing unnecessary abstraction layers. This direct linkage, branded as “4d computing,” uses both the three spatial dimensions of advanced die stacking and the temporal evolution of system states. By harnessing time and space synergistically, the new architecture recaptures the efficiency lost to binary and mathematical compliance.
Traditional computer architectures, including those with CPUs and more parallelized GPUs, adhere to the von Neumann paradigm, separating compute from memory and shuttling information between the two. Even as architectures progress toward finer-grained parallelism, this division remains.
Rao describes an alternative: in dynamical computers, each computing element inherently functions as both computation and storage. Temporal dynamics—how signals evolve over time—are coupled with die stacking in three dimensions to create integrated compute-memory elements. There is no distinct memory interfa ...
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Naveen Rao and his team explored whether an interconnected oscillator system, similar to a metronome setup, could perform generative AI tasks. This exploration led to the creation of Uno, an image generation model based on a network of oscillators arranged as a dynamical system. Uno demonstrates that non-traditional computing architectures—distinct from digital logic and memory—can generate recognizable images and extend to tasks like sequence modeling and language models.
The system was scaled up, trained, and able to produce actual images, marking the first demonstration that such a system could be used for practical generative AI tasks. Rao explains that the model’s operation can be analyzed using state-space trajectories, mapping how the phases of all oscillators evolve over time as the system generates conditioned outputs, like an airplane, car, or bird. This analysis helps reveal the underlying system dynamics and computational paths.
Uno and its simulation were released as open source, enabling others to verify and experiment with the oscillator-based approach to computation.
Building on the Uno model, the team designed and fabricated the first physical dynamical computer ever built in only five months—having started in earnest in January, taped out the design on June 1, and received the silicon chip for lab testing soon after. The resulting prototype achieved a groundbreaking result: processing an image took only about 500 nanojoules, a figure many orders of magnitude lower than conventional GPUs, which typically consume millijoules per image. This means the prototype is about 1,000 times more power efficient than current GPUs.
Rao emphasizes that this prototype represents the first public demonstration of a functional hardware implementation of dynamical computing, offering direct silicon proof of the core theory. This accomplishment demonstrates that the approach isn't just theoretical—it works in practice and opens avenues for highly efficient computation far closer to biological limits.
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Naveen Rao describes the development of a new data center product built as a complete rack-scale system. This product is designed to run large AI models, offering tokens in and tokens out through a standard network cable. Internally, the system's architecture and operation differ fundamentally from traditional computer infrastructure, particularly GPU-based data center designs. The approach presents a complete alternative to existing solutions, enabling token-based network interface interaction as the main data exchange paradigm.
The team is targeting a full product launch within a two-year timeline, focusing on scaling, integration, and achieving the reliability required for production readiness.
The architecture allows adaptation of AI models at the model layer, eliminating the need to port models at the operations layer. This provides compatibility for existing models, but Rao notes a significant computational effort is involved in making the transition. The process requires the algorithmic redesign of the model layer to fit the new substrate.
Instead of carrying out basic elements like traditional matrix multiplication (“matmole”) in hardware as usual, the new system reimagines matrix multiplication as a series of time-varying behaviors. Each time step translates to multiplying the current state by a transformation matrix—reflecting a shift from static operations to dynamic state transitions. This approach uses state transformation matrices to characterize operations, and the development team must balance the adaptation effort with the performance improvements to justify porting models to the new system.
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