In this episode of All-In, CEOs and industry leaders explore major technological developments expected to shape the next few years. The discussion covers the growing role of stablecoins in global finance, with Circle's representatives explaining how these digital currencies are being integrated into traditional banking and business transactions. The conversation also examines the infrastructure requirements for advancing AI technology, including innovative approaches to data center development and energy solutions.
The participants delve into the practical challenges and opportunities in building the foundation for future technologies. Topics include the development of specialized computing facilities powered by various energy sources, from natural gas to nuclear, and the potential adaptation of existing infrastructure for new transportation technologies like EVTOL aircraft. The discussion emphasizes how these developments in cryptocurrency, AI, and infrastructure may influence business operations and daily life by 2026.

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Jeremy Allaire from Circle and Jason Calacanis discuss the evolution of stablecoins in the global financial ecosystem. Allaire describes stablecoins as a bridge between traditional currencies and cryptocurrencies, comparing them to "HTTP for dollars on the internet." USDC, a regulated stablecoin, has become widely adopted by banks, businesses, and individuals for its speed, security, and efficiency in online transactions.
The discussion highlights how stablecoins are transforming various aspects of finance, from enhancing payment utilities through established players like American Express to enabling efficient business financing. Calacanis points to the Genius Act as a crucial regulatory framework guiding stablecoin development, while Allaire emphasizes Circle's commitment to operating within existing financial systems.
Chase Lochmiller discusses the growing demands of AI computing power and innovative solutions in data center development. His company, Crusoe Cloud, takes an energy-first approach to building computing infrastructure, utilizing natural gas-powered data centers and implementing advanced cooling systems to support AI operations.
The conversation reveals how AI services are becoming integral to various industries. Lochmiller notes that their specialized data center services cater to select big tech companies, while Calacanis predicts a significant AI resurgence by 2026. George Kurtz adds insights about AI's dual role in cybersecurity, both as a defensive and offensive tool.
Adam Goldstein and Chase Lochmiller explore the infrastructure needed for emerging technologies. Goldstein highlights the potential for existing heliport infrastructure in major U.S. cities to support EVTOL (Electric Vertical Takeoff and Landing) aircraft development.
Lochmiller details innovative energy solutions for computing demands, including a 1.2 gigawatt substation in Abilene, Texas, and plans for the first AI factory powered by a Small Modular Nuclear Reactor by 2027. He discusses various energy sources, from solar and geothermal to hydro energy in the Nordics, emphasizing the importance of sustainable and resilient systems for future computing needs.
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The integration of cryptocurrency into the global financial ecosystem is accelerating, with stablecoins such as USDC leading the charge. Jeremy Allaire from Circle, and Jason Calacanis, discuss the significant growth of stablecoins and their potential for mainstream financial integration.
Jeremy Allaire outlines the conception of stablecoins as a bridge between traditional fiat currencies and the decentralized models of cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin. He likens stablecoins to "HTTP for dollars on the internet," acknowledging their importance in the evolution of digital money.
Allaire discusses USDC, a stablecoin that functions under regulatory frameworks and is implemented in various applications, including banking systems. With stablecoins provoking a renaissance in the usage of money, Allaire notes their key role as native, secure dollars for internet transactions and credits the technology with enabling more open and flexible use cases compared to legacy payment and money systems. Moreover, Allaire emphasizes Circle's commitment to creating a trusted and regulated digital currency with USDC by pre-emptively hiring regulatory advisory firms to ensure legality and security.
Stablecoins like USDC are now ubiquitous, used by banks, remote workers, businesses, and hedge funds, thanks to their speed, liquidity, and safety. As the technology weaves into various parts of the market, such as electronic markets firms, commerce, and personal transactions, its utility and efficiency over traditional financial methods are becoming ever clearer. USDC allows capital to flow with the cost-efficiency and speed of the internet, giving an edge to users participating in electronic markets.
Allaire illustrates the widespread use of stablecoins across the financial spectrum. From enhancing payment utilities through established financial players like American Express and Bank of America to providing a foundation for new credit products, stablecoins serve numerous purposes. They enable wealth management for traditional banks, efficient business financing, and instant transfer of money between global branches. The significant growth of USDC as the largest regulated stablecoin network with a high transaction volume affirms its growing integration into the global financial system.
Cryptocurrency and Digital Finance
The field of artificial intelligence (AI) is rapidly growing, pushing technological boundaries and requiring innovative solutions in cloud computing to keep pace.
Chase Lochmiller acknowledges the necessity for the technology industry to bring online the power necessary for new AI infrastructure, including data centers.
Lochmiller discusses Crusoe's energy-first approach for creating computing infrastructure, which allows access to abundant energy sources rather than relying on traditional network hubs. Crusoe Cloud, applying this innovative approach, aims to build a high-performance cloud platform for AI with the latest GPU technology, such as NVIDIA's Ampere generation GPUs, prior to Hopper implementation.
Crusoe Cloud focuses on creating energy-efficient solutions, like natural gas-powered data centers, which operate off-grid. Lochmiller mentions significant investments, including a $1.2 billion purchase for gas turbines to power their AI-centric infrastructure. To manage the intense power fluctuations that accompany large-scale AI operations, they utilize a one-hour battery energy storage system to smooth out the draw from GPUs running compute cycles.
The discussion centers around the need for continuous innovation to support growing AI computations. As AI becomes increasingly prevalent, solutions like Elon Musk's integration of advanced cooling, electrical, and hot-aisle containment systems in constructing the Colossus data center become essential steps in boosting efficiency of data centers.
Across industries, prominent companies are eager to harness AI to drive innovation and efficiency.
Lochmiller mentions that AI services offered by Crusoe cater to a select subset of big tech companies. With their vertical integration, they can provide specialized data center services, easing significant bottlenecks for major tech entities that are adept in managing GPU clusters. An emerging trend points to data center racks increasing in power capacity, potentially reaching a megawatt—equivalent to the power consumption of a small town ...
Advancements in Ai and Cloud Computing
Adam Goldstein and Chase Lochmiller discuss the infrastructure development initiatives required to support the burgeoning sectors of artificial intelligence (AI) and transportation technologies.
Goldstein highlights the potential for existing heliport infrastructure in major U.S. cities to support EVTOL (Electric Vertical Takeoff and Landing) aircraft. He mentions that the city, already the biggest helicopter market in the U.S., has three big heliports on the West Side, East Side, and downtown at Wall Street, indicating a readiness for EVTOL development.
While Archer Aviation is not mentioned directly, the conversation implies that companies are actively working with authorities to build facilities and collaborate on creating EVTOL hubs, an essential step for such technologies to become commonplace.
Lochmiller discusses the growing demand for energy in powering one of the world's largest clusters of GPUs. In Abilene, Texas, they built a 1.2 gigawatt substation and a 350 megawatt gas plant onsite, potentially indicating an exploration of natural gas for such energy needs. Furthermore, Lochmiller mentions access to a pipeline leading into gas turbines and working with companies like GE Vernova and Caterpillar's Solar to address supply chain constraints for energizing compute infrastructure.
Lochmiller's company, Crusoe Cloud, took an innovative approach by adapting a turbine, originally re-engineered for supersonic jet travel by Boom Supersonic, to power data centers.
In Wyoming, Lochmiller mentions a 10 gigawatt campus project and references the potential for post-combustion carbon capture and sequestration using class six wells. He also discusses recycling end-of-life EV batteries for data center use and deploying a fully off-grid solar plus battery energy storage system that powers an AI data center continuously at lower power costs than in Northern Virginia. This system demonstrates an effective use of second-life recycled batteries for AI data centers.
Lochmiller notes that Crusoe has over 45 gigawatts in their energy infrastructure pipeline to support high-density compute layers and acknowledges the ensuing heat challenges. He talks about harnessing hydro energy in the Nordics, utilizing Norway and Iceland's geothermal and hydro resources. In his bullish take on Small Modular Nuclear Reactors (SMRs), he reveals plans to energize the first AI factory powered by an SMR by 2027 at the Idaho National Lab.
Additionally, Lochmiller’s partnership with Allo Energy ...
Infrastructure Development to Support AI and Transportation Innovations
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