In this live episode of 2 Bears, 1 Cave recorded at the Rose Bowl during their annual 5k event, Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer are joined by Jelly Roll, Ari Shaffir, Joe DeRosa, and the hosts of Are You Garbage. The episode centers on weight loss transformations, with Jelly Roll's loss of nearly 300 pounds taking center stage alongside stories from other participants who have collectively lost over 1,000 pounds through the supportive podcast community.
The conversation covers pharmaceutical interventions like Munjaro and testosterone therapy, the role of medical monitoring through Dexa scans and body composition analysis, and unconventional wellness practices. The group also discusses celebrity friendships and how fame impacts social dynamics, shares stories about their various content projects and business ventures, and reflects on their growing podcast network. Throughout, the hosts and guests normalize discussions about health struggles while highlighting the unexpected life improvements that came with their physical transformations.

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The podcast episode features remarkable weight loss success stories, with Jelly Roll's transformation serving as the centerpiece alongside collective achievements from annual 5k event participants.
Jelly Roll (Jason DeFord) has lost nearly 300 pounds, dropping from over 500 pounds to between 250 and 270 pounds. Bert Kreischer recalls the severity of Jelly Roll's condition, noting that family members came to say goodbye, believing he might die. The transformation began with participation in a podcast community 5k race, which Jelly Roll now runs annually in different cities. He's improved his race time by 14 minutes and credits the supportive, non-judgmental podcast community for creating an inclusive space that welcomed him regardless of fitness level.
Beyond Jelly Roll's achievement, other participants have experienced significant weight loss—ranging from 70 to 300 pounds each, with five highlighted stories totaling over 1,000 pounds lost collectively. These transformations brought unexpected benefits: one participant met his future wife at the event, while improved mobility allowed Jelly Roll to ride a roller coaster for the first time at 41 and reclaim simple activities like getting on the floor or climbing stairs without exhaustion.
The participants candidly discuss the physical limitations extreme weight imposed. Jelly Roll describes counting staircases at venues, scrutinizing restaurant chairs, and avoiding airplane bathrooms out of necessity. Weight loss revealed previously hidden body parts and enhanced physical intimacy with fewer constraints. Beyond physical metrics, participants report psychological relief and dramatically improved quality of life. Jelly Roll reflects that the journey saved his life, noting there was "no way" someone drinking a liter of tequila daily at 500 pounds could have lived much longer.
The conversation shifts to detailed discussions about pharmaceutical treatments, fitness monitoring, and unconventional wellness practices used to optimize health.
Bert Kreischer openly advocates for Munjaro (tirzepatide), comparing it to "taking [restricted term] for fat people" and encouraging others struggling with weight to consider pharmaceutical interventions. Both Kreischer and Joe DeRosa discuss their positive experiences with [restricted term] therapy, with DeRosa crediting it for helping him lose fifty pounds with minimal exercise. Bert's Dexa scan revealed he was "40% fat," results that inform ongoing health strategies. The group normalizes pharmaceutical interventions, sharing experiences and recommending treatments based on individual quantified results.
Kevin Ryan's bone density scan revealed "pre-osteoporosis," emphasizing the importance of comprehensive health screening beyond weight. H Foley stresses that high-risk individuals should undergo frequent full-body scans for optimal monitoring. The group relies heavily on Dexa scans for body composition analysis and emphasizes the role of preventive medical check-ups in both optimizing interventions and providing early warnings for health concerns.
Colonic treatments receive positive feedback from H Foley and Tom Segura, who describe noticeable improvements in well-being. The group also discusses specialized bidet systems that offer enhanced hygiene and cleansing benefits. Weight loss medications' gastrointestinal side effects are reframed positively as "bodily cleansing," with participants noting that strategic meal timing combined with medication can produce intense but welcomed effects, which they integrate into their practical day-to-day health management strategies.
Kreischer, Segura, Shaffir, and others reflect on celebrity friendships, backstage privileges, and how fame changes personal interactions and public perceptions.
Bert Kreischer discusses the oddity of being friends with highly famous people like Joe Rogan, while Ari Shaffir describes noticing the recognition and perks that fame brings fellow comedians. Stories about Shaquille O'Neal reveal his patience and generosity—Brett Ernst recounts how Shaq graciously visited a child's party after finishing his meal and even paid the entire bill, despite constant fan attention. Not all celebrity interactions go smoothly: Tom Segura shares an awkward dinner with Eddie Murphy where an attempted ice-breaker story fell completely flat.
Fame significantly shifts social dynamics among both peers and the public. Rogan's current level of fame draws extraordinary attention and security, a far cry from his "Fear Factor" days. Fan behavior often shifts priorities, with people bypassing typical networking to meet celebrities or snap pictures. Security concerns increase as fans act unpredictably, sometimes creating stressful moments like when a fan snuck into a private dinner.
Kreischer reflects on how online sentiment has shifted from celebrating storytellers to criticizing them as narcissists after repeated self-promotion. He acknowledges that some level of narcissism is necessary for creative success, noting his therapist suggests it can be a positive trait. The distinction between casual celebrity interactions and genuine friendships surfaces repeatedly, with lines often blurred by fame, fan excitement, and ever-present social media.
Tom Segura's new Netflix series "Very Bad Ideas" features provocative, boundary-pushing content that met resistance but proceeded to production. Bert Kreischer humorously describes receiving a role offer requiring extensive make-up. Ari Shaffir released his stand-up special "This Is the End" via YMH Studios, achieving financial success through direct audience support and unconventional marketing including discounted purchase codes.
Ari Shaffir promotes his travel podcast "You Be Trippin'," which hands out annual awards including the humorous "Biggest Piece of Shit Award," recently renamed after Joe DeRosa. DeRosa announces his new podcast "Violent Horrendous" on the YMH platform, while "Two Bears One Cave" continues holding live events. The creators emphasize maintaining control by owning their podcast channels and cultivating direct audience relationships.
Tom Segura's Italian bakery, Cico Bomba, has expanded to three Austin locations offering pastries, Italian coffee, sandwiches, pizza, and pasta. An interactive experience features a Tom Segura statue inside where customers can "rub [his] big belly."
The Two Bears 5k celebrated its third annual run at the Rose Bowl in Los Angeles, with plans to bring the event to Tampa next year. The "Are You Garbage" podcast also plans an event with free entry and classic foods, underscoring the comedians' focus on engaging directly with their fanbase and strengthening community ties within their growing brand ecosystem.
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Stories of extraordinary body transformations highlight both the physical and psychological benefits of significant weight loss. Jelly Roll’s journey, along with the collective efforts of others inspired by annual events, showcases life-changing impacts in mobility, health, and quality of life.
Jelly Roll, born Jason DeFord, has undergone one of the most dramatic body transformations in recent years. Starting at over 500 pounds, Jelly Roll now weighs between 250 and 270 pounds—a near 300-pound reduction. Bert Kreischer recalls, “His family came to his house to say goodbye to him. I thought he was going to die and today he ran a fucking 5k.” The seriousness of Jelly Roll’s condition was such that his loved ones prepared for the worst, a fate he avoided by embarking on a committed weight loss journey.
Jelly Roll’s transformation began with his participation in a 5k race organized by the podcast community. He has participated each year, in different cities, as a tribute to the event that helped spark his turnaround. The inclusivity of the community played a big role—Jelly Roll explains, “I thought this place would be a place that anybody could show up... you made a space where guys like talking about me. Dude, I lost three hundred pounds.”
Jelly Roll has seen not just dramatic weight loss, but significant improvements in performance and fitness. He proudly notes “I shaved almost 14 minutes off this year already,” a result of both his determination and improved health. Bert Kreischer remarks on the speed and stamina Jelly Roll displayed during the event, noting the achievement of running sub-10 minute miles.
Throughout his journey, Jelly Roll credits the podcast community for its non-judgmental, inclusive support system. He describes the camaraderie as “come one come all,” a group where “anybody could run it... could drink beer... could smoke joints... could praise God.” Listening to the podcast during workouts and feeling welcomed made a crucial difference in maintaining his motivation.
Jelly Roll isn’t the only one to experience dramatic results. During these annual races, multiple participants share their own stories of significant change: another man lost 300 pounds, two others hit the 250-pound mark, one lost 120 pounds, and another shed 70 pounds.
The cumulative impact is staggering: just counting five highlighted stories, the total weight loss exceeds 1,000 pounds. This collective achievement underscores the power of shared motivation and support fostered by the event, demonstrating a movement of health-driven transformation.
Beyond physical transformation, the journey has brought unexpected joys—one man credits the event for not only his weight loss but also meeting his future wife at a subsequent race. Together, they continued to progress and celebrated a new life rooted in healthy habits.
Weight loss has unlocked experiences that were once inaccessible. Jelly Roll describes the thrill of riding a roller coaster for the first time at 41. Even basic activities, like getting on the floor or climbing stairs, became easier and more enjoyable. “You know what else you could do now that you couldn't do before? Just get on the floor if you feel like it,” says Tom Segura, highlighting a new freedom of movement.
Weight Loss Journeys and Body Transformation Success Stories
The participants share detailed experiences and practical advice about optimizing health through medical, pharmaceutical, and unconventional wellness approaches. Conversation points range from pharmaceutical treatments and fitness monitoring to wellness routines involving colonics and advanced toilets.
Bert Kreischer openly endorses Munjaro (tirzepatide), stating, "I am on Munjaro I am doing the terrors uptide shot it fucking works. If you're struggling with weight it is a great, it's like taking [restricted term] for fat people." He normalizes the use of such pharmaceutical interventions for effective weight loss and encourages others to consider similar solutions based on personal experiences.
Joe DeRosa and Bert Kreischer detail their positive experiences with [restricted term] injections. Bert notes, "[restricted term] is better than having a big dick. It is nice," while Joe credits Bert for initially recommending the therapy, which he says helped him lose fifty pounds with minimal exercise. Joe recalls, "A week later, I was shooting test tops." Bert further claims [restricted term] is reparative to the liver, highlighting its perceived health benefits.
Bert shares his Dexa scan revealed he was "40% fat," which he downplays as "not that bad," especially compared to his wife's 22%. These scan results spark motivation and inform personal health strategies among the group, reinforcing continual self-monitoring and adjustment of treatments.
The group’s open discussion about their use and endorsement of drugs like Munjaro and [restricted term]—tailored to individual needs—normalizes pharmaceutical intervention. Participants recommend treatments for each other, relying on quantified data like Dexa before adjusting protocols, emphasizing results-based personal medicine.
Kevin Ryan discusses his bone density scan, revealing "pre-osteoporosis," stressing the importance of screening for conditions that might not be apparent with just weight assessments. He jokes about the fragility that such a result implies and the necessity of more careful health management.
H Foley stresses that some individuals should undergo full-body scans every three days for the most thorough health monitoring, especially when using multiple interventions like therapy and injections. Tom Segura supports this, suggesting frequent evaluations are needed for those taking comprehensive health approaches.
The group relies on Dexa scans for detailed body composition measurements, using their fat percentage and comparisons as both a motivator and a metric to inform ongoing health strategies.
Their discussion highlights the role of preventive and regular medical check-ups—like Dexa and bone density scans—in both optimizing interventions and providing early warnings for health concerns beyond weight.
H Foley and Tom Segura discuss the use of colonics for health optimization, describing the practice as resulting in a noticeable improvement in ...
Health Optimization Methods Including Medical Interventions
In a candid and humorous conversation, Bert Kreischer, Tom Segura, Ari Shaffir, and other podcast hosts reflect on their experiences with celebrity friendships, reveal the backstage quirks and privileges fame brings, and comment on how fame changes personal interactions and public perceptions.
Bert Kreischer discusses the oddity of being friends with very famous people like Joe Rogan, noting how everyday interactions become charged with the awareness of celebrity status. Kreischer jokes about using AI to reply to celebrity friends’ texts and the realization that he's conversing with one of the most recognizable figures in media. Ari Shaffir adds to this, describing a moment of surprise while attending a game with fellow comedian Chris DeStefano, when he noticed the level of recognition and perks fame had brought Chris.
Shaquille O’Neal’s approach to fame and fans also stands out. Kreischer and Shaffir recall interactions with Shaq that reveal his patience, generosity, and ability to set healthy boundaries. A story from Brett Ernst details how Shaq, after being asked to visit a child’s party while eating at a restaurant, patiently finished his meal before spending time entertaining the children and even paying the entire bill—a testament to his considerate nature, despite the constant fan attention. Kreischer also notes Shaq’s simple requests, such as only asking for hand lotion on his rider, and recounts how swarms of people came backstage just to meet or get a picture with him, with Shaq always remaining patient and gracious.
Not all celebrity interactions are smooth. Tom Segura shares a dinner with Eddie Murphy where a story meant to break the ice fell flat, with Murphy bluntly asking if that was the end of Segura’s story, creating an awkward pause. The group jokes about the anxiety and uncertainty of choosing the “right” story when meeting idols, revealing the pressure even successful comedians feel in such high-profile situations.
The prevalence of celebrity culture and challenges to privacy appear at industry events as well. H Foley describes an accidental encounter with Kevin Hart and security outside a club, illustrating how normal logistics can turn tense under the watchful eyes of security teams and starstruck fans.
Fame shifts social dynamics among both peers and the public. Joe Rogan’s fame, for instance, draws extraordinary attention and the presence of security, which Ari Shaffir jokes about, noting the risk of standing too close to someone with a target on their back. Where once Rogan aimed for a lower profile during his “Fear Factor” days, he’s now known for his controversial podcasting choices and expansive influence, having moved far beyond his reality TV branding.
Among podcast hosts themselves, levels of recognition vary, which is both fun and unsettling. Segura remarks on the enjoyment he gets from watching friends get recognized, while Kreischer notices how people sometimes bypass other celebrities just to meet someone like Shaq. Fan behavior often shifts priorities, with people more eager to meet celebrities or snap pictures than ...
Celebrity Encounters and Observations About Fame and Friendship
Tom Segura's new series, "Very Bad Ideas" (also referred to as "Bad Thoughts") premiered on Netflix, featuring provocative and controversial content, including jokes described as "more racist" and pushing boundaries with topics like diarrhea and explicit humor. The show met resistance from individuals and agencies who argued its potential for harm, but production proceeded regardless. Bert Kreischer discusses receiving a role offer on the show, humorously describing a character requiring extensive make-up to portray a "hogtit shit beast," revealing the lengths taken in character preparation.
In parallel, Ari Shaffir released his stand-up special "This Is the End" via YMH Studios. The special saw financial success, which Shaffir attributes to direct audience support. It was promoted through several channels and featured a discounted purchase code for fans, highlighting unconventional marketing approaches.
Ari Shaffir also promotes his travel podcast, "You Be Trippin'," where he hands out annual awards, including the humorous "Biggest Piece of Shit Award," recently renamed after Joe DeRosa. The podcast also recognizes the best trip episode, with Bert Kreischer earning an award for his Vietnam episode. Joe DeRosa announces the launch of "Violent Horrendous," a new podcast on the YMH platform, expanding the group's digital portfolio.
"Two Bears One Cave," another flagship podcast, holds live events featuring comedians and audience participation. The creators emphasize the importance of maintaining control by owning their podcast channels and cultivating direct relationships with their audiences.
Tom Segura's Italian bakery, Cico Bomba (variously called "Chito Bomba" or "Chichobomba" in the conversation), has expanded to three Austin locations: the Fairground Food Hall under the Wells Fargo building downtown, the lobby of the Scarborough building, and a flagship at 1100 South Lamar in front of the Alamo Drafthouse. The menu includes pastries, Italian coffee, homemade sandwiches, pizza, and pasta, appealing to a wide ran ...
Content and Business Promotion
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