{"id":88265,"date":"2022-12-22T22:58:00","date_gmt":"2022-12-23T02:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/?p=88265"},"modified":"2023-01-04T10:59:58","modified_gmt":"2023-01-04T14:59:58","slug":"science-and-mythology","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/science-and-mythology\/","title":{"rendered":"Science and Mythology: Jordan Peterson Makes a Critical Distinction"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>What&#8217;s the difference between science and mythology when it comes to how we understand the world and ourselves? What are their distinct goals?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jordan Peterson contends that science plays a role in helping us understand objective reality but that we need myths to inform our subjective judgments. Myths provide meaning that science cannot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Read more to understand Peterson&#8217;s argument.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-science-and-mythology\">Science and Mythology<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Peterson establishes that science and mythology aren\u2019t meant to achieve the same goals. The human experience is both objective and subjective\u2014science is essential for understanding objective reality, but myth determines the <em>subjective value<\/em> of the world around us. We\u2019ll distinguish between what falls in the domain of science and what comes under the subjective realm as well as what it means to view the world through a mythical lens.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Science is humanity\u2019s best tool for understanding the physical properties of the world. It can tell us an object\u2019s shape and width, what it\u2019s made of, and how heavy it is. However, Peterson argues that <strong>pure objectivity is impossible.<\/strong> The human mind always assigns a subjective meaning to what we observe.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For example, from a scientific point of view, we might observe that an object is a straight piece of wood, five feet long and an inch in diameter, tapered to a sharp point on one end. We can predict how fast it will fall if we drop it or how far it will travel if thrown. <em>Subjectively<\/em>, our brain says this object is a <em>spear<\/em>. It can be used for hunting so we can feed our family, and it can also defend our tribe from attack. In the hands of an enemy, the spear is an instrument of terror.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Shortform note: The difference between <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tandfonline.com\/doi\/full\/10.1080\/03080188.2019.1705559\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">objective and subjective reality<\/a> has long been the purview of the branch of philosophy known as \u201cmetaphysics.\u201d However, understanding the distinction is also useful in the realm of oratory and persuasion. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/app\/book\/win-bigly\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Win Bigly<\/em><\/a>, Scott Adams argues that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/app\/book\/win-bigly\/introduction\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">most of us think our worldview is objective<\/a>, when in actuality <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/app\/book\/win-bigly\/the-most-effective-persuasion-methods\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">our beliefs are shaped by subjective emotions<\/a>, such as fears, aspirations, and feelings of cultural identity. A master communicator can use the power of subjectivity to influence others\u2019 perceptions of reality in much the same way that myths convey deeper ideas underneath their surface.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Peterson claims that it\u2019s impossible for the human mind to look at an object or an event solely in terms of its physical properties. We\u2019ll always see the spear as a tool or a threat, and it isn\u2019t science that assigns those values. They come from a mental story that gives the spear its meaning. When abstracted into the larger group of narratives we use to interpret the world at large, the stories that give meaning to everything around us constitute what we call \u201cmyth.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Shortform note: Many definitions of \u201cmyth\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/centerforinquiry.org\/blog\/the-origin-of-myths-where-do-misconceptions-and-false-beliefs-come-from\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">characterize it as a false belief<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vocabulary.com\/dictionary\/myth\">a pre-scientific attempt to explain the natural world<\/a>. These definitions primarily serve to disassociate myth from the realms of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/religion-and-science\/\">science and religion<\/a>. However, philosophers, theologians, and writers recognize the enduring value of the patterns embedded in mythology. The Roman historian Sallustius once said, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/poetry.arizona.edu\/calendar\/writing-true-fiction-continuing-influence-myths-and-archetypes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Myths are things that never happened but always are.<\/a>\u201d Modern-day fantasist Neil Gaiman insists that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/41807920\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">myths are still relevant<\/a>, serving as the basis from which other stories sprout.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Peterson writes that from the mythic point of view, <strong>our mind classifies everything in terms of its meaning: how it prompts us to act.<\/strong> Fibers of plant matter woven into threads become <em>nets<\/em> we can use to trap fish for us to eat. Other plant fibers woven into threads become <em>clothes<\/em>, something to protect us from the weather. The physical properties of any given object are secondary to the function it serves or how it makes us behave. The sun, for example, tells us when to wake up, it brings life and warmth, but it can also burn. Therefore, from the mythic point of view, <em>the sun is a god<\/em> that rules human behavior far more than any human leader ever could.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Shortform note: The sun god is one of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solargain.com.au\/blog\/sun-deities-around-world\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the most common figures throughout world mythology<\/a>, from the Egyptians\u2019 Ra and the Greeks\u2019 Helios to the Japanese Amaterasu and the Hindu deity Surya. The solar cycle was an object of worship at ancient sites such as <a href=\"https:\/\/astronomy.com\/news\/2022\/07\/stonehenge-may-be-an-ancient-solar-calendar\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Stonehenge<\/a> in England, <a href=\"https:\/\/sunearthday.nasa.gov\/2005\/locations\/angkorwat.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Angkor Wat<\/a> in Cambodia, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2007\/03\/01\/7658847\/oldest-solar-observatory-in-americas-found-in-peru\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Chankillo<\/a> in Peru. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Yahweh-Sun-Biblical-Archaeological-Testament\/dp\/1850752729\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Yahweh and the Sun<\/em><\/a>, Old Testament professor J. Glen Taylor examines archaeological and biblical evidence that even the early Israelites may have practiced a form of sun worship in their approach to God.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What&#8217;s the difference between science and mythology when it comes to how we understand the world and ourselves? What are their distinct goals? Jordan Peterson contends that science plays a role in helping us understand objective reality but that we need myths to inform our subjective judgments. Myths provide meaning that science cannot. 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