{"id":129443,"date":"2024-08-28T15:50:14","date_gmt":"2024-08-28T19:50:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/?p=129443"},"modified":"2024-09-03T16:00:43","modified_gmt":"2024-09-03T20:00:43","slug":"plato-democracy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/plato-democracy\/","title":{"rendered":"Plato: Democracy Is the 4th Best Form of Government"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Is democracy truly the worst form of government, except for all the others? What was Plato&#8217;s take on it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to Plato, democracy leaves a lot to be desired. In <em>The Republic<\/em>, he presents a thought-provoking critique of democracy through the character of Socrates. He outlines a progression of societal structures, with democracy as the second-worst.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Read on to understand Plato&#8217;s analysis of democracy and discover why he believes it&#8217;s less than ideal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-plato-on-democracy\">Plato on Democracy<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>These days, we think of democracy as an ideal. But, according to Plato, democracy is a far cry from perfection. In <em>The Republic<\/em>, through the character of Socrates, he describes the nature of the ideal society. But, because change is inevitable in the world of objects (as opposed to the world of forms), the only direction the ideal can go is down. Over time, the ideal society deteriorates. Socrates describes this deterioration as a progression of four types of societies, with each kind worse than the previous kind:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/plato-timocracy\/\">Timocracy<\/a>: <\/strong>a society based on ambition and honor<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Oligarchy: <\/strong>a society based on wealth<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Democracy: <\/strong>a society based on individual liberty<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Tyranny: <\/strong>a society based on mob rule and oppression<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>A democratic society is defined by equal rights, freedoms, and political opportunities for all citizens, <\/strong>Socrates explains. In a democracy, people are free to live however they choose. Because of this, democratic societies have a lot of different ideas and perspectives.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>An oligarchy becomes a democracy when younger generations spend their wealth extravagantly and without restraint. This is inevitable because <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/why-more-is-less\/\">maximizing<\/a> profits requires enabling immoral behaviors\u2014there\u2019s money to be made not only in selling extravagant luxuries but also in exploiting the financially reckless. This also increases wealth inequality even further until there\u2019s nothing but the desperately poor and the pampered, incompetent rich. When civil strife from inequality boils over, the poor revolt, overthrow the oligarchy, and grant everyone equal rights and opportunities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Shortform note: Plato\u2019s conception of democracy is specific to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.worldhistory.org\/Athenian_Democracy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the democratic society of ancient Athens<\/a>. Under this system, all male citizens of Athens could vote on every law and issue directly as opposed to electing representatives to make laws for them. Athens <a href=\"https:\/\/www.history.com\/topics\/ancient-greece\/ancient-greece-democracy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">became democratic in 507 BCE<\/a> after a popular revolution overthrew an oligarchical regime\u2014a historical event that matches Plato\u2019s description of how democracy comes about.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-democratic-man\">The Democratic Man<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Socrates describes the democratic man as flexible but unprincipled<\/strong>. His father\u2014an oligarch\u2014teaches him to be stingy, make money, and avoid unnecessary expenses. But others around him in society indulge in extravagance and excess, and the democratic man gets a taste for luxury from spending time with them. They tell him this extravagance is the best way to live, and the democratic man believes them because he hasn\u2019t been taught strong moral principles. And so the democratic man takes a middle ground between his father\u2019s views and his society: He doesn\u2019t constantly indulge in excess but he\u2019s not stingy either. He\u2019s also unwilling to judge those who indulge or say any pleasure is good or bad.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Shortform note: Scholars argue that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=x4vd21slhmw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Polemarchus begins as a democratic man<\/a>. They note how, at the start of the dialogue, he convinces Socrates to discuss justice by pointing out that he\u2019s outnumbered by young men who want him to stay\u2014associating him with majority rule. As the dialogue progresses, Polemarchus becomes more reserved and has Adeimantus present his arguments for him. Thus, Socrates has elevated him to the more private and austere oligarchic man.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is democracy truly the worst form of government, except for all the others? 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