{"id":12932,"date":"2020-08-26T17:45:35","date_gmt":"2020-08-26T21:45:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/?p=12932"},"modified":"2020-09-04T23:23:59","modified_gmt":"2020-09-05T03:23:59","slug":"real-social-dynamics-the-game","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/real-social-dynamics-the-game\/","title":{"rendered":"Real Social Dynamics: The PUA Gurus That Took Over"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>What is Real Social Dynamics? What was Neil Strauss&#8217;s role in the company?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Real Social Dynamics was a company founded by new gurus Tyler Durden and Papa. Real Social Dynamics caused many tensions within the PUA community, especially with Mystery and other PUAs at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/project-hollywood-the-game\/\">Project Hollywood<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Tyler Durden and Papa Create Real Social Dynamics<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Tyler Durden and Papa didn\u2019t stop at inventing the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/amog-pua-the-game\/\">AMOG<\/a> strategy\u2014they built a company around it. Real Social Dynamics, Tyler and Papa claimed, was their new business, and it offered a website and in-field workshops.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For Mystery, this was adding insult to injury: <strong>Not only did Tyler and Papa use his workshops as a platform to develop and promote AMOGing, but the name of their competing business was one word off from the name of Mystery\u2019s seminars, Social Dynamics.<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In addition, the format of Real Social Dynamics workshops mirrored Mystery\u2019s setup:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>They were three nights<\/li><li>They started and ended at the same times<\/li><li>They cost the same<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>The primary difference between the two workshops\u2014besides the techniques\u2014was that Mystery only allowed six students per workshop, while Tyler and Papa had dozens. The pair was making money hand over fist.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tyler and Papa\u2019s company set off a spark of entrepreneurship in the community. Other sargers and PUAs realized that they could just as easily start their own seduction business, because:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>If these two young rookies could run workshops, anyone could.<\/li><li>There was an insatiable demand for pickup strategies.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Throughout the community, men were offering workshops, creating websites, marketing products, selling DVDs, and writing e-books about seduction.<\/strong> Many of the entrepreneurs were far from experts: Several of the men were fairly new to the community, and one had lost his virginity just a month before offering workshops.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Style Launches Project Hollywood<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>After Papa, Mystery, and Style signed the lease on the Project Hollywood mansion, they posted on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/mysterys-lounge\/\">Mystery\u2019s Lounge<\/a> that they were looking for roommates to fill the remaining two rooms. The response was overwhelming.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They ended up bringing in three eager pickup artists (PUAs):&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Herbal, a 22-year-old from Austin who had made a small fortune in a gambling scheme.&nbsp;<\/li><li>Playboy, a party promoter who had quit his job at a New York dance company in order to come to Project Hollywood. Playboy worked for Real Social Dynamics and Tyler to pay his rent.<\/li><li>Xaneus, a college student from Colorado who was willing to do whatever it took to live at Project Hollywood\u2014so he slept in a tent in the backyard, worked as an intern for Real Social Dynamics, and paid for utilities and housecleaning.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>The roommates laid out the ground rules for the house:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Herbal was responsible for finances.<\/li><li>Papa was in charge of social events.&nbsp;<\/li><li><strong>Guests couldn\u2019t stay in the house for more than a month without approval from all the roommates.<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/li><li>Ten percent of profits from any seminars held in the living room had to go to the house fund.<\/li><li><strong>No one was allowed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shortform.com\/blog\/sarging-pua-the-game\/\">to sarge<\/a> a woman that another PUA invited to the house.<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Project Hollywood hit the ground running. Playboy threw the first Project Hollywood party, and the turnout was 500 people.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Similar seduction venues started popping up around the world\u2014in Austin, San Francisco, Sydney, and Perth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Tyler Durden Joins Project Hollywood<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>One day, <strong>Tyler Durden moved into Project Hollywood. <\/strong>Papa had given him an (unapproved) invitation to live in his bathroom closet.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tyler and Papa were still running Real Social Dynamics together. Plus, Tyler and Style would be winging Mystery\u2019s workshop together that weekend in Las Vegas. Mystery didn\u2019t explain his decision to invite Tyler to wing his workshop, but right after Tyler and Papa had launched Real Social Dynamics, Mystery had vowed to keep his friends close and his enemies closer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Although Style had gotten a bad impression of Tyler during their last meeting, Tyler\u2019s skill and reputation had vastly increased since then. Tyler had been leading workshops regularly and gaining respect in the online seduction community. Everyone else seemed to like Tyler, so Style decided to give him another chance.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When Tyler arrived, he praised Style for being a big influence on him. <strong>Tyler then revealed that he\u2019d sometimes told women that he <em>was<\/em> Neil Strauss, a <em>Rolling Stones<\/em> writer, which alarmed Style.<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That weekend, Style found out just how influential he\u2019d been to Tyler.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Style\u2019s Housemate Leaves Project Hollywood<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>One day, while grabbing lunch at a nearby restaurant, Style ran into Extramask, who\u2019d been a student with Style in Mystery\u2019s workshop. Although Extramask lived at Project Hollywood, he was part of the Real Social Dynamics team, all of whom spent most of the time secluded in Papa\u2019s room.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Extramask revealed that Style\u2019s post about social robots had struck a chord, and he\u2019d decided to stop sarging and pursue spirituality. <\/strong>He was planning to go to an ashram in India, where he would stay indefinitely.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Style was astounded: When they\u2019d met, Extramask had been extremely naive. But Extramask\u2019s pivot from seduction to spirituality reminded Style of his old friend\u2019s Dustin\u2019s conversion from being a womanizer to a celibate living in a yeshiva. Both Extramask and Dustin had been trying to fill a void with women and sex, and, when they realized they couldn\u2019t, they tried to do it with God.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Style reflected on the optimism he\u2019d had when they started Project Hollywood, that it would be a headquarters for self-improvement and life enrichment beyond sex and romance. That dream was now shattered by the harsh reality that <strong>the house dynamics were breeding instability and dysfunction.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Real Social Dynamics Takes Over Project Hollywood<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Project Hollywood was falling apart. Physically, the house needed a deep cleaning and some serious repairs\u2014but the social fabric was in even worse shape.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mystery and Herbal made up just in time for Mystery\u2019s move-out. Then Herbal moved back to Austin with Katya. Style was alone in the house with all minions of Real Social Dynamics, Tyler and Papa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Papa and the rest of the Real Social Dynamics crew\u2014including former students, junior PUAs, and the steady stream of newcomers that Papa kept moving in\u2014completely ignored Style.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One day, Style asked Tyler Durden about everyone\u2019s strange behavior. <strong>Tyler said that everyone in the house hated Style, and that they blamed him for much of the drama in the house. <\/strong>Tyler pointed to examples of people Style had been friends with who\u2019d suddenly turned cold toward Style.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Style was blindsided. Although he\u2019d become disillusioned with the community, he thought he\u2019d remained friendly to everyone in the house.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Style Discovers the Real Social Dynamics Scheme<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>One of the last of the original Project Hollywood residents to move out was a PUA named Playboy, who\u2019d moved in with Herbal and Xaneus.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Before Playboy left, he pulled Style aside to tell him that <strong>Papa and Tyler Durden had schemed to push Mystery out of the house, and now they were trying to do the same to Style.<\/strong> Ultimately, they wanted to turn Project Hollywood into a headquarters and dormitory for their workshop business, Real Social Dynamics.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Papa and Tyler had taken the social principles from seduction and twisted them to use in all areas of life. 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